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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 1:58 pm

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Ugh...

Hey, how about that Jurassic World 2?

That's an interesting thought coming from a man who was eager of discussing of Spino-hybrid-retcon thingy and rights negotiations for the future of the franchise on this very thread for the last few pages =) but hmm yes, you have something to say about JW2 or news about it? Speak up then.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 2:03 pm

If people honestly still think the CGI in Jurassic World was extremely terrible, you're setting your expectations for what a computer generated animal is supposed to look like, or human for that matter, way too high.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 2:04 pm

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@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
Ugh...

Hey, how about that Jurassic World 2?

That's an interesting thought coming from a man who was eager of discussing of Spino-hybrid-retcon thingy and rights negotiations for the future of the franchise on this very thread for the last few pages =) but hmm yes, you have something to say about JW2 or news about it? Speak up then.

Keep on dangling your line...
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 2:05 pm

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
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@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
Ugh...

Hey, how about that Jurassic World 2?

That's an interesting thought coming from a man who was eager of discussing of Spino-hybrid-retcon thingy and rights negotiations for the future of the franchise on this very thread for the last few pages =) but hmm yes, you have something to say about JW2 or news about it? Speak up then.

Keep on dangling your line...

What line?

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If people honestly still think the CGI in Jurassic World was extremely terrible, you're setting your expectations for what a computer generated animal is supposed to look like, or human for that matter, way too high.

I liked them fine in the first two films, and partly in the third one, 15-25 years ago, so no I don't think my expectations are too high.

Once again it's all subjective, not objective.


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 2:07 pm

Anyways, getting back to JW2...

Daniella said something interesting regarding the Rex. Someone asked her on Twitter whether or not the Rex would have a bigger role in JW2. She said, and I quote.... "Yes...and no".

Just being coy and not wanting to let the cat out of the bag, or does it mean something?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 2:15 pm

Take it to another thread or make a new one if you wanna compare CGI. Focus on the topic at hand por favor.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 2:19 pm

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
Anyways, getting back to JW2...

Daniella said something interesting regarding the Rex. Someone asked her on Twitter whether or not the Rex would have a bigger role in JW2. She said, and I quote.... "Yes...and no".

Just being coy and not wanting to let the cat out of the bag, or does it mean something?

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 4:23 pm

It might mean that Tyrannosaurs in general have a larger role, but Rexy as an individual has a smaller role.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 4:28 pm

^That is really interesting, I kind of like that Idea

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 5:02 pm

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It might mean that Tyrannosaurs in general have a larger role, but Rexy as an individual has a smaller role.

That would be perfect.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 5:14 pm

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
@The Beeg One wrote:
It might mean that Tyrannosaurs in general have a larger role, but Rexy as an individual has a smaller role.

That would be perfect.

Maybe they'll talk about the ones on Sorna and at least one of the other islands. That or they've finally managed to make purebred T. rexes or new ones with eagle/hawk DNA to improve their eyesight and thus, their hunting abilities.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 5:23 pm

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It might mean that Tyrannosaurs in general have a larger role, but Rexy as an individual has a smaller role.
Ugh shitty thing to do but what to expect. That's why we don't get new dinosaurs in cool roles.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 5:32 pm

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@The Beeg One wrote:
It might mean that Tyrannosaurs in general have a larger role, but Rexy as an individual has a smaller role.
Ugh shitty thing to do but what to expect. That's why we don't get new dinosaurs in cool roles.
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I also think that most of it was because of how Universal read the negetive fan reaction to the JP3 Spino the wrong way. "Oh they don't like the Spino, so they won't like all the other exotic dinos we planned to have." Let's face it, the JP3 Spino has basically force-fed, and people don't like things being forced down their throats. That's a shame since I really think people would LOVE to see a Theriznosaurus or Deinocheirus in a JP movie for the first time.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 6:25 pm

I'd love to see another buck Tyrannosaur make an appearance. Maybe change up the color scheme a tad.

Also, there'd be more room for strange exotic dinosaurs without the hybrids......Just sayin'.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 6:30 pm

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
I'd love to see another buck Tyrannosaur make an appearance. Maybe change up the color scheme a tad.

Also, there'd be more room for strange exotic dinosaurs without the hybrids......Just sayin'.

I remember how back in JPL how you said you like the colors of the Canyon T. rex. I'd like to see that color as well. That or a modified form of it via dark blue instead of grey and have it be semi-nocturnal like owls are.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 6:51 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
I'd love to see another buck Tyrannosaur make an appearance. Maybe change up the color scheme a tad.

Also, there'd be more room for strange exotic dinosaurs without the hybrids......Just sayin'.

I remember how back in JPL how you said you like the colors of the Canyon T. rex. I'd like to see that color as well. That or a modified form of it via dark blue instead of grey and have it be semi-nocturnal like owls are.

That would be pretty sick. While I love the color scheme of the Canyon Rex, it may be a little too similar to the Indominus.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 6:56 pm

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I'd love to see another buck Tyrannosaur make an appearance. Maybe change up the color scheme a tad.

Also, there'd be more room for strange exotic dinosaurs without the hybrids......Just sayin'.

I remember how back in JPL how you said you like the colors of the Canyon T. rex. I'd like to see that color as well. That or a modified form of it via dark blue instead of grey and have it be semi-nocturnal like owls are.

That would be pretty sick. While I love the color scheme of the Canyon Rex, it may be a little too similar to the Indominus.

Then I guess we'd have to do my idea of a modified color scheme with dark/navy blue as the base color. Besides, having a semi-nocturnal predator would be a fresh take on a familiar dinosaur.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 7:05 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
I'd love to see another buck Tyrannosaur make an appearance. Maybe change up the color scheme a tad.

Also, there'd be more room for strange exotic dinosaurs without the hybrids......Just sayin'.

I remember how back in JPL how you said you like the colors of the Canyon T. rex. I'd like to see that color as well. That or a modified form of it via dark blue instead of grey and have it be semi-nocturnal like owls are.

That would be pretty sick. While I love the color scheme of the Canyon Rex, it may be a little too similar to the Indominus.

Then I guess we'd have to do my idea of a modified color scheme with dark/navy blue as the base color. Besides, having a semi-nocturnal predator would be a fresh take on a familiar dinosaur.

I like the idea a lot. I think giving it bright, yellow eyes would give it a nice sinister edge and at least superficially portray it as a more nocturnal animal as well.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 7:10 pm

@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
I'd love to see another buck Tyrannosaur make an appearance. Maybe change up the color scheme a tad.

Also, there'd be more room for strange exotic dinosaurs without the hybrids......Just sayin'.

I remember how back in JPL how you said you like the colors of the Canyon T. rex. I'd like to see that color as well. That or a modified form of it via dark blue instead of grey and have it be semi-nocturnal like owls are.

That would be pretty sick. While I love the color scheme of the Canyon Rex, it may be a little too similar to the Indominus.

Then I guess we'd have to do my idea of a modified color scheme with dark/navy blue as the base color. Besides, having a semi-nocturnal predator would be a fresh take on a familiar dinosaur.

I like the idea a lot. I think giving it bright, yellow eyes would give it a nice sinister edge and at least superficially portray it as a more nocturnal animal as well.

We might want to consider giving it a crocodile style 3rd eyelid. To not only protect it from swimming, but from excess sunlight when it does hunt in the day. Remember, most nocturnal animals can and do move around and hunt in daylight. Think of it as natural sunglasses.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 7:26 pm

I would love to see this on a Rex.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 7:33 pm

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I would love to see this on a Rex.

That would be quite scary. Not only that, but even without the eyelid, it would still have some protection against light. Remember since most nocturnal animals can move around in the day, they can still see in the light.

Guy: "Let's shine this really bright light at the nocturnal T. rexes eyes so it can be blinded." *Shines light*

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Mon May 29, 2017 7:34 pm

I would love a Buck type T.rex. I love Buck. He's the best T.rex of the franchise IMO.

What I don't want is Rexy spawning everywhere just because T.rex needs to appear in this movie.

Anyway, I'm so excited to see the new dinosaurs, also Wu's hybrid too. He's going to rock it, I'm sure of it.  Cool
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Tue May 30, 2017 5:28 am

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I would love a Buck type T.rex. I love Buck. He's the best T.rex of the franchise IMO.

What I don't want is Rexy spawning everywhere just because T.rex needs to appear in this movie.

I feel much the same way, I like seeing both male and female T. rexes, and I think it will be vital to introduce another T. rex (possibly male and young) to be more prominently featured, since age will naturally slow Rexy down.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Tue May 30, 2017 7:54 pm

So at least Bryce, Chris, Justice & BD are still filming in the UK this week so filming still continues there even after the wrap party...

BD did tweet this the other day so I guess he was right :

https://twitter.com/BD_WONG/status/868738088218099712


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Tue May 30, 2017 10:56 pm

@Mistral wrote:
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^Better than nothing.
And to add on to the conversation about no dino footage in the teaser, we all know what happened when unfinished CGI made it into the Jurassic World Trailer. Everyone lost their sh*t because they thought it was the final product.

That's true lol. The general public had some ignorant thoughts about it, not realizing it was a completely unfinished product. And of course the leaked trailer with PS2 CGI didn't help either lol.

It was just as bad in the final product.

The only thing I liked was when the raptor heads were on those small cages and Hoskins and that friend of Owen were discussing next to them, that looked really good. Also possibly that very brief event when I-Rex was following the kids before they jumped off in the water, that looked like something that might've been from the other films. Everything else was terrible and fake looking. Same basic color palette on every dinosaur didn't help either.

Even though the (scale-of-yet-unknown) animatronics for JP5 are big relief, my fear is that if the CGI is as unconvincing as it was in JW, the separation between the two techniques will be plain as daylight.

Not that CGI in JP3 was great either, a clear downspiral from 1997 and some of it went even to direct-to-video level, but there wasn't comparatively that much of it.

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Even though I'm a pretty big critic of JW CGI It is certainly not just as bad as what the first trailer showed us. There was a noticeable jump in many areas. I thought the Indominus looked pretty incredible and top of the line in almost every shot. 

I think the color grading of the film might have some to do with your complaints. I wish I had saved the video but someone had edited the film on Reddit to not have such a blue tint to it, and I was pretty stunned at the difference.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 1:13 am

@Troyal1 wrote:
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^Better than nothing.
And to add on to the conversation about no dino footage in the teaser, we all know what happened when unfinished CGI made it into the Jurassic World Trailer. Everyone lost their sh*t because they thought it was the final product.

That's true lol. The general public had some ignorant thoughts about it, not realizing it was a completely unfinished product. And of course the leaked trailer with PS2 CGI didn't help either lol.

It was just as bad in the final product.

The only thing I liked was when the raptor heads were on those small cages and Hoskins and that friend of Owen were discussing next to them, that looked really good. Also possibly that very brief event when I-Rex was following the kids before they jumped off in the water, that looked like something that might've been from the other films. Everything else was terrible and fake looking. Same basic color palette on every dinosaur didn't help either.

Even though the (scale-of-yet-unknown) animatronics for JP5 are big relief, my fear is that if the CGI is as unconvincing as it was in JW, the separation between the two techniques will be plain as daylight.

Not that CGI in JP3 was great either, a clear downspiral from 1997 and some of it went even to direct-to-video level, but there wasn't comparatively that much of it.

Hate feedback incoming!
Even though I'm a pretty big critic of JW CGI It is certainly not just as bad as what the first trailer showed us. There was a noticeable jump in many areas. I thought the Indominus looked pretty incredible and top of the line in almost every shot. 

I think the color grading of the film might have some to do with your complaints. I wish I had saved the video but someone had edited the film on Reddit to not have such a blue tint to it, and I was pretty stunned at the difference.
I hope you find that video, because i really interested to see what the film would of looked like without the tint
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 1:14 am

I remember seeing some pics of JW without that Blueish tint, and the difference was pretty jarring.

I did find this on reddit. The pics are from the first trailer, but still, you can see the difference. It's not much, but the Mosa and in particular the raptors look a lot more organic without the blue tint.

http://imgur.com/a/Qs0bg#0
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 2:44 am

First Jurassic Vehicle spotted on set in Hawaii getting ready for filming next week :

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUvfH1lgEa0/
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 11:50 am


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 3:07 pm

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I remember seeing some pics of JW without that Blueish tint, and the difference was pretty jarring.

I did find this on reddit. The pics are from the first trailer, but still, you can see the difference. It's not much, but the Mosa and in particular the raptors look a lot more organic without the blue tint.

http://imgur.com/a/Qs0bg#0
Thanks! Pretty much this. 

I really wish I had saved the video because the color was even better and he had whole scenes you could watch. The difference is big.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 3:09 pm

Dunno if this warrants the spoiler tag but just in case:

Spoiler:
 
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 5:05 pm

^^ Probably having to do with the submarine sequence revealed a little while back. I wonder if this is where the Baryonyx comes into play?

Meanwhile, Daniella has said there were a few "really good" animatronics on-set and that her character's "badass", while some impressive footage was shown at the wrap party.

She's there hanging out with BD Wong again...it does seem likely they share some screen time in the film. Also seems she's shooting in Hawaii, meaning her character will be fairly major.


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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 5:25 pm

I'm just hoping we get some Funko figures in the toyline this go round.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 8:00 pm

Maybe Owen, Claire & the gang sneak back onto Isla Nublar on a submarine instead of helicopter? Or they use the submarine in the Mosasaur lagoon for some reason?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 8:28 pm

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Maybe Owen, Claire & the gang sneak back onto Isla Nublar on a submarine instead of helicopter? Or they use the submarine in the Mosasaur lagoon for some reason?
Oh you know pretty much why.  Twisted Evil

By the way, I'm so glad and happy Wu will have a bigger screentime.  Razz
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 8:30 pm

@dance2nite wrote:
Maybe Owen, Claire & the gang sneak back onto Isla Nublar on a submarine instead of helicopter?

If so, there'd be shades of the Return to Jurassic Park comics from Topps where Grant, Ellie and Muldoon had to do the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 8:36 pm

I don't see Claire or Owen in a submarine but okay.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 8:48 pm

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
I don't see Claire or Owen in a submarine but okay.

Why not?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 9:02 pm

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@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
I don't see Claire or Owen in a submarine but okay.

Why not?
You know why.  Cool  I think you got a PM about it, no?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 9:09 pm

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I'm just hoping we get some Funko figures in the toyline this go round.

Hope so, but non will probably be announced until next year. At least I think and would have to be spaced out so that they have them prepared for the film in June.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 9:18 pm

The thing is, I'm not sure they'd want two water-based setpieces in the same movie. So if Owen's not in the submarine, perhaps he's involved in some other way - like having to rescue the people inside?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 9:20 pm

Or it's another context scene.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Wed May 31, 2017 9:21 pm

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Tyrant Lizard wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
I don't see Claire or Owen in a submarine but okay.

Why not?
You know why.  Cool  I think you got a PM about it, no?

I did not, but now I'm extremely curious Razz
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:39 pm

Maybe there is a scene where he falls into or encounters water that doesn't involve a sub?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.2   Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:52 pm

^^ Possibly, but he mentions shooting "underwater" for what was seemingly a strenuous sequence. This doesn't seem like a expository scene, and again, I'm not sure they'd do something repetitive like two underwater sepieces...but perhaps.

I think if there's a sub in the Mosa tank, it must be a small one though.


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