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dance2nite Sorna Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:07 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. \ What do u think the trial may be about? | |
| | | Sickle_Claw Veteran
Posts : 1507 Reputation : 37 Join date : 2012-04-07
| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:25 pm | |
| - dance2nite wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. \
What do u think the trial may be about? Well maybe property rights. Culpability for Jurassic World incident? Maybe even Ingen suing costa rica for the rights to remove the dinosaurs off of Nublar...with Lockwood making 'evidence' that the dinosaurs will be in imminent danger aka volcano if not removed. Also Malcolm may be there as the dino expert about nobler. _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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| | | Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:50 pm | |
| What is the source for this, if any? It's not particularly coherent. What is a "corporate court room"? Since when do corporations have their own courts? Who or what are the "specials", and why is Malcolm "standing trial"? This seems made up, IMO...or it's just really badly described. | |
| | | IllOrfanato Compsognathus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:25 am | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. | |
| | | Sickle_Claw Veteran
Posts : 1507 Reputation : 37 Join date : 2012-04-07
| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:46 pm | |
| - IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here" _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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| | | IllOrfanato Compsognathus
Posts : 123 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2017-04-12
| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:29 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here" When TLW stopped being canon? | |
| | | Sickle_Claw Veteran
Posts : 1507 Reputation : 37 Join date : 2012-04-07
| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:49 pm | |
| - IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here" When TLW stopped being canon? It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even. _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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| | | Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:57 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here" When TLW stopped being canon? It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even. To be fair, you can blame Universal for starting this mess for not ensuring that TLW is hard canon back when they were making JW. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. Michael Crichton
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| | | brunofernando Embryo
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:41 pm | |
| - Rhedosaurus wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here" When TLW stopped being canon? It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even. To be fair, you can blame Universal for starting this mess for not ensuring that TLW is hard canon back when they were making JW. I think it's kind of obvious it's still canon. Why would they have to say it? | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:51 pm | |
| - brunofernando wrote:
- Rhedosaurus wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :
- Spoiler:
"A scene set in a corporate court room involving secret agents & "the specials".
"Dr Ian Malcolm will be brought before the court & will stand trial in Jurassic World : Fallen Kingdom"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018
Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid". I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever. I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie. I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here" When TLW stopped being canon? It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even. To be fair, you can blame Universal for starting this mess for not ensuring that TLW is hard canon back when they were making JW. I think it's kind of obvious it's still canon. Why would they have to say it? Because in a few interviews, Trevorrow made it seem like it they weren't by saying that this was a direct sequel to the original JP movie. He clarified that TLW and JP3 were still canon, but since then many fans have thought otherwise. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. Michael Crichton
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| | | CT-1138 Jurassic Mainframe News Team
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:04 pm | |
| There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. _______________ SOMETHING HAS SURVIVED | |
| | | Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:55 pm | |
| - CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. Michael Crichton
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| | | Troyal1 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:52 pm | |
| - Rhedosaurus wrote:
- CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me? I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency to actually include the whole fan base. There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will. It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels. Rant over: sorry. Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much? | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:02 pm | |
| - Troyal1 wrote:
- Rhedosaurus wrote:
- CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?
I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency to actually include the whole fan base.
There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.
It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.
Rant over: sorry.
Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much? I don't particularly hate JP///, and I certainly don't want it retconned out, but I do find it inferior. In fact, I actually think I've been unfairly harsh towards the movie in the past. _______________ SOMETHING HAS SURVIVED | |
| | | Herrerasaurus Ankylosaurus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:40 pm | |
| - Troyal1 wrote:
- Rhedosaurus wrote:
- CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?
I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency to actually include the whole fan base.
There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.
It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.
Rant over: sorry.
Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much? was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw. | |
| | | Troyal1 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:02 pm | |
| - Herrerasaurus wrote:
- Troyal1 wrote:
- Rhedosaurus wrote:
- CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?
I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency to actually include the whole fan base.
There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.
It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.
Rant over: sorry.
Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much? was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw. Ehhh, one of the official social media accounts (I believe it was Twitter) was tweeting out "facts" about JW and I believe they worded it in a way which directly implied it was the same animal. A huge debate ensued. I will try and link it. Picture: https://www.reddit.com/r/JurassicPark/comments/65qtev/the_spinosaurus_in_jurassic_park_3_is_the_same/ Discussion https://jurassicmainframe.forumotion.com/t1009-universal-s-attempt-to-make-the-jw-spino-skeleton-that-of-the-jp3-spino | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:07 pm | |
| - Troyal1 wrote:
- Herrerasaurus wrote:
- Troyal1 wrote:
- Rhedosaurus wrote:
- CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?
I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency to actually include the whole fan base.
There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.
It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.
Rant over: sorry.
Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much? was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw. Ehhh, one of the official social media accounts (I believe it was Twitter) was tweeting out "facts" about JW and I believe they worded it in a way which directly implied it was the same animal. A huge debate ensued. I will try and link it.
https://jurassicmainframe.forumotion.com/t1009-universal-s-attempt-to-make-the-jw-spino-skeleton-that-of-the-jp3-spino I wouldn't call a debate as so much as it was a venting post since most of the fans could tell the differences between the skeleton and the JP3 Spino, which didn't look alike all that much, if at all. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
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| | | Troyal1 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:13 pm | |
| - Rhedosaurus wrote:
- Troyal1 wrote:
- Herrerasaurus wrote:
- Troyal1 wrote:
- Rhedosaurus wrote:
- CT-1138 wrote:
- There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.
My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath. Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me. I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?
I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency to actually include the whole fan base.
There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.
It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.
Rant over: sorry.
Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much? was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw. Ehhh, one of the official social media accounts (I believe it was Twitter) was tweeting out "facts" about JW and I believe they worded it in a way which directly implied it was the same animal. A huge debate ensued. I will try and link it.
https://jurassicmainframe.forumotion.com/t1009-universal-s-attempt-to-make-the-jw-spino-skeleton-that-of-the-jp3-spino I wouldn't call a debate as so much as it was a venting post since most of the fans could tell the differences between the skeleton and the JP3 Spino, which didn't look alike all that much, if at all. Yeah it was more of a "huh?? Say what?" topic | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:52 pm | |
| http://www.etonline.com/emmy-first-timers-bd-wong-mr-robot-85743
Okay, this is interesting. IF WU SURVIVES this movie, I'm going to lose my sh*t. Please make it happen. By the way, I want an Oppenheimmer type speech from Wu in defense of science. MAKE IT BAYONA. _______________ "Chaos theory is a pseudoscience you asshole" - Headcanon line from Sickle_ClawFormer JPL member, Spinosaur4.4. | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:43 pm | |
| Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Lego Sets Info. (Just how many sets there'll be no pics or what the sets are.)
https://www.pintaram.com/u/lego_peru/1586590499890853803_5390876068
5 Normal Sets 3 Juniors Sets 2 Duplo Sets
They'll be out in April.
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:05 am | |
| - Oviraptor wrote:
- Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Lego Sets Info. (Just how many sets there'll be no pics or what the sets are.)
https://www.pintaram.com/u/lego_peru/1586590499890853803_5390876068
5 Normal Sets 3 Juniors Sets 2 Duplo Sets
They'll be out in April.
. Nice find Ovi! (Welcome back btw) So interesting that they are marketing it much more to kids this time around. _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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| | | Troyal1 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:10 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- Oviraptor wrote:
- Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Lego Sets Info. (Just how many sets there'll be no pics or what the sets are.)
https://www.pintaram.com/u/lego_peru/1586590499890853803_5390876068
5 Normal Sets 3 Juniors Sets 2 Duplo Sets
They'll be out in April.
. Nice find Ovi! (Welcome back btw)
So interesting that they are marketing it much more to kids this time around. They want to make sure the kids get scared . Assuming they are telling the truth about this one being more horror esq. | |
| | | Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:01 pm | |
| I don't think they meant it was specifically that Spinosaurus rather than it was the same type of Dinosaur from JP3 for the casual fans. | |
| | | Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:02 pm | |
| I don't think they meant it was specifically that Spinosaurus rather than it was the same type of Dinosaur from JP3 for the casual fans. | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:41 pm | |
| A - Spoiler:
Dinosaur Buyer
has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/ | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:47 pm | |
| - dance2nite wrote:
- A
- Spoiler:
Dinosaur Buyer has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/ I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction. _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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| | | dance2nite Sorna Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:56 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- A
- Spoiler:
Dinosaur Buyer has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/ I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction. Yes but Wu has wanted to create them for a long time. I think most of the normal Dinosaurs will be sold off to buyers from around the world at the Manor before Lockwood's final presentation of the Indoraptor but it/they escape their pens (kill Wu) & hunt down the rest of the cast in the manor. I also believe that earlier report that Raptors attack the Manor from the roof is actually somewhat false & the source got confused as it will actually be the Indoraptor(s) that attack the manor as I believe Blue may be the only normal raptor we see at the manor/auction. | |
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:00 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- A
- Spoiler:
Dinosaur Buyer has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/ I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction. Part of me still thinks that the Indoraptor is actually being made to sabotage the whole thing and that it's being orchestrated by another company. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:04 pm | |
| - Rhedosaurus wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- A
- Spoiler:
Dinosaur Buyer has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/ I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction. Part of me still thinks that the Indoraptor is actually being made to sabotage the whole thing and that it's being orchestrated by another company. Me an intellectual with a plot twist x2000. Wu releases Indoraptor once he realizes that Lockwood is just selling the dinosaurs for gain, including the ones he wanted to keep for research _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3 Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:40 am | |
| - dance2nite wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- dance2nite wrote:
- A
- Spoiler:
Dinosaur Buyer has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/ I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction. Yes but Wu has wanted to create them for a long time. I think most of the normal Dinosaurs will be sold off to buyers from around the world at the Manor before Lockwood's final presentation of the Indoraptor but it/they escape their pens (kill Wu) & hunt down the rest of the cast in the manor. I also believe that earlier report that Raptors attack the Manor from the roof is actually somewhat false & the source got confused as it will actually be the Indoraptor(s) that attack the manor as I believe Blue may be the only normal raptor we see at the manor/auction. I think it's Stygimoloch. The leaked Dinosaurs list said Stygimoloch has a special role. And, Stygimoloch puppet closed its eyes at cage on London set. I think Dino buyer will buy Stygimoloch at auction on Lockwood's manor. _______________ Welcome....to Jurassic Park! We've made living biological attractions so astounding that they'll capture the imagination of entire planet.
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