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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:10 am

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Well the film so far seems to be taken inspiration from TLW so I wouldn't be surprised if Owen releases the dinosaurs.

I do wonder though. Maybe Wu releases the indoraptor because he didnt know about the auction plan.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:16 am

@Dr. Wu wrote:
Well the film so far seems to be taken inspiration from TLW so I wouldn't be surprised if Owen releases the dinosaurs.
Considering the complaints that movie had, i would think they learned their lesson.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:27 am

@Dr. Wu wrote:
Well the film so far seems to be taken inspiration from TLW so I wouldn't be surprised if Owen releases the dinosaurs.

I think, that only so-called Indoraptors will be on the loose somehow - their scenes might mimic the unused parts of Velociraptor invading tourist buildings in the first novel.

I would not be surprised, if the mayhem caused by Indoraptors will result releasing rest of the dinos and in the very end of the movie we will see their population living near the mansion in remote area (this might be the part where Breacon Beacons shots will be used). This for JP6/JW3 we might have full mainland plot - just as Steven Spielberg intended originally for JP3.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:50 am

Will there be more than one Indoraptor?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:14 am

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Dr. Wu wrote:
Well the film so far seems to be taken inspiration from TLW so I wouldn't be surprised if Owen releases the dinosaurs.

I do wonder though. Maybe Wu releases the indoraptor because he didnt know about the auction plan.

That or he's been working for BioSyn the entire time or recently joined them.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:53 pm

@Dr. Wu wrote:
Will there be more than one Indoraptor?

We don't know for sure but I'd guess by a leaked plot report there may be 3 or 4.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:05 pm

@dance2nite wrote:
@Dr. Wu wrote:
Will there be more than one Indoraptor?

We don't know for sure but I'd guess by a leaked plot report there may be 3 or 4.

Was this the same 'leaked' report that said that the trike skull has a big part to play? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:09 pm

So do we know where lockwood lives? is he in a location that is remote enough that the dinos could hide and blend in?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:10 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
@Dr. Wu wrote:
Will there be more than one Indoraptor?

We don't know for sure but I'd guess by a leaked plot report there may be 3 or 4.

Was this the same 'leaked' report that said that the trike skull has a big part to play? Wink

Yes, the report said
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:11 pm

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So do we know where lockwood lives? is he in a location that is remote enough that the dinos could hide and blend in?

No but we know his property is surrounding by dense forest going by where they built the exterior of his manor & driveway/front entrance so it would be perfect once the Dinos escape, they could easily blend in I'd think.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:27 am

@dance2nite wrote:
@Herrerasaurus wrote:
So do we know where lockwood lives? is he in a location that is remote enough that the dinos could hide and blend in?

No but we know his property is surrounding by dense forest going by where they built the exterior of his manor & driveway/front entrance so it would be perfect once the Dinos escape, they could easily blend in I'd think.
interesting, i would be surprised if none of the dinos escape. Man i really hope we get a new movie still soon. Everyday i wake up thinking "is today the day?!" then i get disappointed. I wonder if the still will be of an island scene or a lockwood mansion one.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:33 am

@Herrerasaurus wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
@Herrerasaurus wrote:
So do we know where lockwood lives? is he in a location that is remote enough that the dinos could hide and blend in?

No but we know his property is surrounding by dense forest going by where they built the exterior of his manor & driveway/front entrance so it would be perfect once the Dinos escape, they could easily blend in I'd think.
interesting, i would be surprised if none of the dinos escape. Man i really hope we get a new movie still soon. Everyday i wake up thinking "is today the day?!" then i get disappointed. I wonder if the still will be of an island scene or a lockwood mansion one.

I think we'll get some stills either this month or next as the trailer is arriving in November (only 2 months now) & I'd say it will be of a Nublar scene as I'd say marketing (trailers etc) will focus on the rescue mission/volcano & leave the Lockwood manor scenes as somewhat of a surprise.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:32 am

We'll probably get a little bit Lockwood in the trailer when he organizes the rescue mission.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:45 am

I wonder if these so-called Indoraptors will be some sort of a callback to JP3 raptors. Could be a nice ret-con / easter egg to me.

PS. Can someone PM me with this "plot leak synopsis?" I hope it's not that spoiler-heavy.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:21 am

Is there any news of Omar Sy being back?
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:01 pm

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Is there any news of Omar Sy being back?

It seems whatever plans there were for Omar Sy being a recurring character were scrapped when Bayona came on board. I seem to remember Trevorrow mentioning something about Barry also being a recurring character alongside Claire and Owen. But honestly Barry wasn't a memorable character and Sy's performance was pretty average.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:47 pm

@dance2nite wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
@Dr. Wu wrote:
Will there be more than one Indoraptor?

We don't know for sure but I'd guess by a leaked plot report there may be 3 or 4.

Was this the same 'leaked' report that said that the trike skull has a big part to play? Wink

Yes, the report said
Spoiler:
 

Hmm...I can't help but wonder if
Spoiler:
 
I know that I kind of sound like a broken record, but I really want BioSyn to make a comeback in a HUGE way.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:55 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
@Dr. Wu wrote:
Will there be more than one Indoraptor?

We don't know for sure but I'd guess by a leaked plot report there may be 3 or 4.

Was this the same 'leaked' report that said that the trike skull has a big part to play? Wink

Yes, the report said
Spoiler:
 

Hmm...I can't help but wonder if
Spoiler:
 
I know that I kind of sound like a broken record, but I really want BioSyn to make a comeback in a HUGE way.
It'll be a missed opportunity to not have BioSyn show up at all.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:19 pm

All this Raptor squad vs IndoRaptor Squad talk is making me think of Extreme Dinosaurs
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:26 pm

Heh, well the series is starting to become as cartoonish as that.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:52 pm

Ha well that brings back memories. As long as they don't resemble humans then i'm fine, but i was sure hoping that we were done with hybrids. At least with the hybrids coming back they could do more with the camouflage element. With Bayona involved, i can imagine intense scene where camouflage is utilized.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:45 pm

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Ha well that brings back memories. As long as they don't resemble humans then i'm fine, but i was sure hoping that we were done with hybrids. At least with the hybrids coming back they could do more with the camouflage element. With Bayona involved, i can imagine intense scene where camouflage is utilized.

I'd still want to see the JP3 Spinosaurus ret-conned as a T. rex/Spino hybrid. Not only would it explain that one fight, as well as how it explains why it looks different then 'modern' Spinos, but it would also tie-in both trilogies.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:13 am

Today I realised, that this so called auction scene might also be present in first half of the movie. Why? Because InGen bancrupted (as Hoskins said - company will hit Chapter 11) and now all of their assets are going to be auctioned in order to fill the financial needs of people investing in InGen.

This is just loose-morning-realisation thought.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:21 am

@IllOrfanato wrote:
Today I realised, that this so called auction scene might also be present in first half of the movie. Why? Because InGen bancrupted (as Hoskins said - company will hit Chapter 11) and now all of their assets are going to be auctioned in order to fill the financial needs of people investing in InGen.

This is just loose-morning-realisation thought.

Doubt it, the auction will happen at Lockwood's manor in the second half of film once the Dino's have arrived at the property I'd say.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:23 am

@dance2nite wrote:
@IllOrfanato wrote:
Today I realised, that this so called auction scene might also be present in first half of the movie. Why? Because InGen bancrupted (as Hoskins said - company will hit Chapter 11) and now all of their assets are going to be auctioned in order to fill the financial needs of people investing in InGen.

This is just loose-morning-realisation thought.

Doubt it, the auction will happen at Lockwood's manor in the second half of film once the Dino's have arrived at the property I'd say.
Yea with everything we have heard so far, i think this will be true.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:15 pm

@IllOrfanato wrote:
Today I realised, that this so called auction scene might also be present in first half of the movie. Why? Because InGen bancrupted (as Hoskins said - company will hit Chapter 11) and now all of their assets are going to be auctioned in order to fill the financial needs of people investing in InGen.

This is just loose-morning-realisation thought.

The problem with that is the dinosaurs need to get there first. Unless Wu has already created some for the early customers.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:48 pm

Yes how can u auction off something that is in great danger of a volcanic eruption that may not even get too u, let alone survive. Also if u were one of the wealthy bidders u would want to see what u are buying in the flesh.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:28 am

@dance2nite wrote:
Yes how can u auction off something that is in great danger of a volcanic eruption that may not even get too u, let alone survive. Also if u were one of the wealthy bidders u would want to see what u are buying in the flesh.

This stroke me just now. Why bother then with Nublar dinos if those on Isla Sorna are perfectly safe (well, maybe not from each other). I sense some plotholes here Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:48 am

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@dance2nite wrote:
Yes how can u auction off something that is in great danger of a volcanic eruption that may not even get too u, let alone survive. Also if u were one of the wealthy bidders u would want to see what u are buying in the flesh.

This stroke me just now. Why bother then with Nublar dinos if those on Isla Sorna are perfectly safe (well, maybe not from each other). I sense some plotholes here Very Happy

Because Nublar Dinos are in trouble because of the volcanic eruption & Lockwood uses this opportunity to get his hands on them as he funds the expedition (apparently) to save the Dinos. It is said that Claire & Owen think they are going to Sorna but Lockwood tricks them & sends them to his property for the auction to be sold off & make some money.

Also I think Sorna Dinos are protected by the Costa Rican government & Lockwood obviously cannot get his hands on them easily.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:56 pm

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Also I think Sorna Dinos are protected by the Costa Rican government & Lockwood obviously cannot get his hands on them easily.

Actually, the U.S. Military is protecting the islands. Remember how when the Bull T. rex and his daughter were being escorted back to Sorna how U.S. Navy ships were escorting them? And let's not forget how at the end of JP3 how the Marines stormed Sorna as if they were landing on one of the Pacific islands during WW2.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:26 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
Also I think Sorna Dinos are protected by the Costa Rican government & Lockwood obviously cannot get his hands on them easily.

Actually, the U.S. Military is protecting the islands. Remember how when the Bull T. rex and his daughter were being escorted back to Sorna how U.S. Navy ships were escorting them? And let's not forget how at the end of JP3 how the Marines stormed Sorna as if they were landing on one of the Pacific islands during WW2.

I've personally interpreted this as indication of cooperation between the U.S. Military and the Costa Rica government, since we have Hammond advocating that the Costa Rican government (specifically the Biological Reserves Department, if that actually does exist) would have a greater say in the preservation of Isla Sorna than before the Incident, as well as what sounded like a Costa Rican man contacting the Kirby's plane and ordering that they proceed out of the area in JP3.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:53 pm

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@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@dance2nite wrote:
Also I think Sorna Dinos are protected by the Costa Rican government & Lockwood obviously cannot get his hands on them easily.

Actually, the U.S. Military is protecting the islands. Remember how when the Bull T. rex and his daughter were being escorted back to Sorna how U.S. Navy ships were escorting them? And let's not forget how at the end of JP3 how the Marines stormed Sorna as if they were landing on one of the Pacific islands during WW2.

I've personally interpreted this as indication of cooperation between the U.S. Military and the Costa Rica government, since we have Hammond advocating that the Costa Rican government (specifically the Biological Reserves Department, if that actually does exist) would have a greater say in the preservation of Isla Sorna than before the Incident, as well as what sounded like a Costa Rican man contacting the Kirby's plane and ordering that they proceed out of the area in JP3.

But in real life, Costa Rica doesn't have much of a military and I doubt they have any planes can reach Sorna. My guess is that the United States in using the Monroe Doctrine as a reason to protect the islands. Costa Rica my have one or two PT boats guarding the island, but that's mainly as early detection and not much else.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:27 am

In the books Costa Rica had a military so maybe in the films they have one too.

Real life and fiction don't always work the same way.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:49 pm

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In the books Costa Rica had a military so maybe in the films they have one too.

Real life and fiction don't always work the same way.

If that were the case, the Costa Rican military and not the U.S. Marine Corps would have been the ones that would have picked up Dr. Grant, the Kirbys. and Billy.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:05 pm

Once again news is slow. At least some more key art for merchandising is popping up. Blue and the volcano look epic. Cant wait for an actual still. Sometimes i wish i could flash forward to November(to see the trailer) but i wouldn't want to miss October.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:32 am

*prods Bayonas Twitter with a stick*

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:10 pm

Frontier could potentially reveal something that will appear in Fallen Kingdom at their game's conference next Saturday.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:34 pm

@Levine wrote:
*prods Bayonas Twitter with a stick*

Patience is a virtue. *gives a shifty eye to people posting memes of skeletons in front of computers* Just saying, Bayona is not a news machine, he's a human and Universal probably has their own strategy for marketing the movie too.

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:46 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
@Levine wrote:
*prods Bayonas Twitter with a stick*

Patience is a virtue. *gives a shifty eye to people posting memes of skeletons in front of computers* Just saying, Bayona is not a news machine, he's a human and Universal probably has their own strategy for marketing the movie too.
Exactly! JA Bayona is very old fashioned ha and its silly for people to expect every director to post crap loads of news. I am still very hungry for news but it rubs me the wrong way when people say that this film fails in hype. The real marketing has not even started yet
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:51 pm

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@Levine wrote:
*prods Bayonas Twitter with a stick*

Patience is a virtue. *gives a shifty eye to people posting memes of skeletons in front of computers* Just saying, Bayona is not a news machine, he's a human and Universal probably has their own strategy for marketing the movie too.
Exactly! JA Bayona is very old fashioned ha and its silly for people to expect every director to post crap loads of news. I am still very hungry for news but it rubs me the wrong way when people say that this film fails in hype. The real marketing has not even started yet

This movie needs a much better and larger marketing campaign this time around. With Infinity War being THE movie for next year with all the hype surrounding Thanos since the first Avengers movie, JW:FK needs to have a great marketing campaign in order to avoid being left in the dust.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:28 pm

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Frontier could potentially reveal something that will appear in Fallen Kingdom at their game's conference next Saturday.

What is Frontier? & what exactly would they reveal? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:26 pm

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Frontier could potentially reveal something that will appear in Fallen Kingdom at their game's conference next Saturday.

What is Frontier? & what exactly would they reveal? scratch

Frontier is the studio making Jurassic World Evolution.

Anyway I do think FK greatest competition is going to be Infinity War. The Hype was HUGE at comic con this year. Even people who were supposed to be guaranteed entry into Hall H this year were DENIED entry due to all the line cutters trying to get in to see the Infinity War trailer this year.

But yeah, it is unrealistic to expect that from Bayona to go and push forward news. He has his own likes and wants so when people tag bayona in sad face memes like "when Bayona doesnt tweet Jurassic news or 'when Bayona tweets other stuff" makes me feel kind of sad. We're not entitled to anything and when it comes out, it will come out.

As for Marketing, Wonder Woman was accused of not marketing early on but came in with a good marketing push as the film got closer, and look at how well that did!

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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:39 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Anyway I do think FK greatest competition is going to be Infinity War. The Hype was HUGE at comic con this year. Even people who were supposed to be guaranteed entry into Hall H this year were DENIED entry due to all the line cutters trying to get in to see the Infinity War trailer this year.

But yeah, it is unrealistic to expect that from Bayona to go and push forward news. He has his own likes and wants so when people tag bayona in sad face memes like "when Bayona doesnt tweet Jurassic news or 'when Bayona tweets other stuff" makes me feel kind of sad. We're not entitled to anything and when it comes out, it will come out.

As for Marketing, Wonder Woman was accused of not marketing early on but came in with a good marketing push as the film got closer, and look at how well that did!

I'm just a bit worried that Infinity War could dominate the box office for 2 months in a row if Universal doesn't bring it's A-game marketing wise. I know that sounds impossible, but considering how the MCU has been a juggernaut since the first Avengers movie and how much they've built up this movie and Thanos, not to mention how many old-school fans were disappointed with JW and I don't think this is unlikely as some think it is.
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:13 am

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@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Anyway I do think FK greatest competition is going to be Infinity War. The Hype was HUGE at comic con this year. Even people who were supposed to be guaranteed entry into Hall H this year were DENIED entry due to all the line cutters trying to get in to see the Infinity War trailer this year.

But yeah, it is unrealistic to expect that from Bayona to go and push forward news. He has his own likes and wants so when people tag bayona in sad face memes like "when Bayona doesnt tweet Jurassic news or 'when Bayona tweets other stuff" makes me feel kind of sad. We're not entitled to anything and when it comes out, it will come out.

As for Marketing, Wonder Woman was accused of not marketing early on but came in with a good marketing push as the film got closer, and look at how well that did!

I'm just a bit worried that Infinity War could dominate the box office for 2 months in a row if Universal doesn't bring it's A-game marketing wise. I know that sounds impossible, but considering how the MCU has been a juggernaut since the first Avengers movie and how much they've built up this movie and Thanos, not to mention how many old-school fans were disappointed with JW and I don't think this is unlikely as some think it is.
I think it is too early too worry. If there is no hype from fans and movie buffs when marketing kicks in, then i would be nervous.
ps did any new leaks from the internal jurassic showcase at mattel come out? chris pugh of jurassic outpost tweeted a pic that was apparently from that event. Looked like a new render for blue
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PostSubject: Re: General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3   Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:32 am

@Herrerasaurus wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Anyway I do think FK greatest competition is going to be Infinity War. The Hype was HUGE at comic con this year. Even people who were supposed to be guaranteed entry into Hall H this year were DENIED entry due to all the line cutters trying to get in to see the Infinity War trailer this year.

But yeah, it is unrealistic to expect that from Bayona to go and push forward news. He has his own likes and wants so when people tag bayona in sad face memes like "when Bayona doesnt tweet Jurassic news or 'when Bayona tweets other stuff" makes me feel kind of sad. We're not entitled to anything and when it comes out, it will come out.

As for Marketing, Wonder Woman was accused of not marketing early on but came in with a good marketing push as the film got closer, and look at how well that did!

I'm just a bit worried that Infinity War could dominate the box office for 2 months in a row if Universal doesn't bring it's A-game marketing wise. I know that sounds impossible, but considering how the MCU has been a juggernaut since the first Avengers movie and how much they've built up this movie and Thanos, not to mention how many old-school fans were disappointed with JW and I don't think this is unlikely as some think it is.
I think it is too early too worry. If there is no hype from fans and movie buffs when marketing kicks in, then i would be nervous.
ps did any new leaks from the internal jurassic showcase at mattel come out? chris pugh of jurassic outpost tweeted a pic that was apparently from that event. Looked like a new render for blue

yeah it was a meeting for Mattel shareholders idk. But yeah Blues def going to be heavily involved. I believe Blue is getting off the island with the rest of the other dinos.

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