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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:07 am

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Jurassic Park is a science-fiction/adventure franchise, you cannot have a JP movie without a sense of fun and adventure. The Lost World and JP3 actually lost sight of the science fiction aspects of the series to explore Isla Sorna and it's inhabitants, but JW tapped into the original classic's Frankenstein roots with the creation of the Indominus Rex as a metaphor for human greed and lust for all things immediate and extreme; bigger, louder, more teeth et cetera.
I'm going to have to somewhat disagree with this. TLW had an overwhelming environmental science motif throughout the film. In fact, it's to the point where people call it out for being preachy. TLW did not abandon it's scientific roots, it simply took the Man Vs Nature motif from the latter half of the first film, and ran with it, making it the center focus of the second. It naturally progressed from the end of the first film and moved the science of the movies forward.


I agree. Anyway, what I'm saying is, they should foccus more on the sci fi subject than the adventure one. We need more scenes and dialogues that are thought provoking.


General audience ruins everything, they want a more adventure trailer bc I bet they're not that inteligent to have a real sci fi trailer that makes you think.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:32 pm

Spielberg’s movie, The BFG, is a bomb.

I guess you can say 'The BFG' got hit by a blast from a REAL BFG. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:36 pm

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Spielberg’s movie, The BFG, is a bomb.

I guess you can say 'The BFG' got hit by a blast from a REAL BFG. Razz

Im more then a bit disappointed that Spielberg's most recent movie did not do well at the box office tbh.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:24 pm

Spielberg isn't the box office draw he was. He has spent too much time away from blockbusters to have that effect with audiences now. Besides Indy and War of the Worlds most of his stuff the last 15 years is that deeper, more mature stuff he was seeking post-Schindlers List.

And besides Indy I wouldn't expect any of his other films down the pike to be anywhere close to being over 750 million. He just doesn't have it anymore. That isn't to say he can't make good movies anymore though.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:18 pm

This is really quite upsetting, it's pretty much impossible to be a Jurassic Park fan and not be a fan of Steven Spielberg, who helped shape our franchise in many, many ways.

I haven't seen "The BFG" yet, I really want to once it hits the UK cinemas, but I would have thought positive word of mouth and families possessing even the slightest iota of awareness of one of the greatest filmmakers still alive would have bolstered it's box office chances. After all this is only the man who created some of our nearest and dearest childhood memories, movies and gave us a slew of classics to cherish alongside the likes of "Wizard of Oz", "Lawrence of Arabia", and "King Kong".

I know it's been sadly proven that Spielberg isn't the box office draw he used to be (and neither is Roald Dhal, even more depressingly), but Disney is now the No. 1 studio on the block, and you think it would have made better business than it did! Makes me wonder how "Ready Player One" is going to fare at the box office, considering it's aimed towards people with 80s nostalgia and memorabilia and could have a sizeable budget. One bomb, the first for Spielberg since "1941", is understandable, but if it becomes more consistent we might end up losing him.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:43 pm

Honestly, and this is no offense to Spielberg, I just personally haven't thought The BFG looked all that interesting. Its not about action or anything like that, just didn't seem like something that I'd take much interest in. I don't even know the story behind the film, the book, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:25 am

Spielberg, at least for this kind of awe-inspiring films, isn't the one of te 70s-80s-90s sadly. That doesn't mean his movies are not good anymore. They are really good, but nothing like what we remember from our childhood.
I hoped The BFG would have been a big return to that kind of movies, but looks like it's not. Still, I haven't seen it, so I could be wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:25 pm

I usually wait for those kinds of movies to come out on TV or at least home release, simply because I'm too old to be sitting in a theater with kids movies, but that's still disappointing. The BFG was one of my favorite books when I was a child, and I was hoping it would have been successful. Though, the fact that The BFG was released right around the highly anticipated release of "Finding Dory" didn't help at all. "Finding Dory" blew away the competition, and is very big with kids. I was at Target yesterday picking up some stuff at the electronics department, which is right across from the toy aisles (I may have also looked at some of the toys, too. Razz - Legos have gotten EXPENSIVE!). Every kid that passed the toy aisles were screaming for Dory toys.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:31 pm

Like I said before...Disney obviously wasnt too worried with whether or not it flopped because of Finding Dory being out 2 weeks prior. They were confident in Dory being that successful that they were okay with taking a loss because they werent going to lose that much money.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:34 pm

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Though, the fact that The BFG was released right around the highly anticipated release of "Finding Dory" didn't help at all. "Finding Dory" blew away the competition, and is very big with kids.

^That is what most likely crippled any chance the movie had of succeeding or at least making a decent profit. TBH, ever since JP3 when he let Johnston, Horner, and the incompetent script writers had their way and damaged the movie franchise, I've wondered how much of movie making was in Spielberg's heart. The more I think about it, it's amazing we even got Jurassic World at all, more so considering how successful it was financially and washing out the bad taste that JP3 shoved down our throats.

Maybe it's time that he finally retires for good, or least seriously considers it.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:49 pm

I guess you forgot Lincoln was a hair away from winning Best Picture and was nominated for Best Director iirc not even like 4 years ago. He can still direct. The question is if he should stick to low-gross, critically-acclaimed historical dramas or try to return to blockbusters in some capacity.

If Indy is any good at all we have our answer.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:14 pm

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I guess you forgot Lincoln was a hair away from winning Best Picture and was nominated for Best Director iirc not even like 4 years ago. He can still direct. The question is if he should stick to low-gross, critically-acclaimed historical dramas or try to return to blockbusters in some capacity.

If Indy is any good at all we have our answer.

I don't know if that was the anomaly to what he is now or if that his inner Spielberg of old is still alive. In any case, you're right about Indy being the final answer. That being said, I'm not optimistic by this recent sign.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:57 pm

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I guess you forgot Lincoln was a hair away from winning Best Picture and was nominated for Best Director iirc not even like 4 years ago. He can still direct. The question is if he should stick to low-gross, critically-acclaimed historical dramas or try to return to blockbusters in some capacity.

If Indy is any good at all we have our answer.

I don't know if that was the anomaly to what he is now or if that his inner Spielberg of old is still alive. In any case, you're right about Indy being the final answer. That being said, I'm not optimistic by this recent sign.


It might be an anomaly in the fact that he spent a ton of time in development for it. Years. And Lincoln is really hard to mess up epically because he is such an easy figure to tell a good film about. He also had the good fortune of replacing Liam Neeson, yes he is very epic and super cool but I can't picture him as a convincing Abe, with an even better actor in Daniel Day-Lewis. He made the picture as much as Spielberg. And Steven hasn't had the same casting luck in basically all of his millennium pictures besides that one. He had the trio in Jaws, Ford for Indy, Neeson and Kingsley in Schindler's, Hanks in Private Ryan, his cast for JP, etc. But nothing really has been as fortunate since the 70s-90s when he was at his best.

Gets the right actors for his roles and he is as good as any other director in history. Perhaps he and Christian Bale should get together again, their careers both need a revival of some sort. Lol
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:57 pm

So apparently they've made Sulu gay in Star trek: Beyond. http://io9.gizmodo.com/sulu-is-gay-in-star-trek-beyond-and-its-not-a-big-deal-1783271909

More Interestingly, George Takei didn't like this change.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:37 am

New "A Monster Calls" trailer, directed by J A Bayona:

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/movies/2016/07/13/87024604/

Looks great to me Smile
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:47 pm

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New "A Monster Calls" trailer, directed by J A Bayona:

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/movies/2016/07/13/87024604/

Looks great to me Smile
Me too!

Makes even more excited for JW2 TBH
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:10 pm

A Monster Calls looks stunningly beautiful & sad, cannot wait to watch it, so happy Bayona is doing JP5!
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:04 am

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Following the instant success of “Pokemon Go”, the studio – who has been interested before in doing a film adaptation of the Japanese game – has reportedly initiated talks with Nintendo to finally get the curious critters in theaters.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:15 pm

Okay seriously. That monster calls trailer is just amazing. I hope our director can make a JP movie that feels very emotional and beautiful.

On a side note. Can someone please tell me what the soundtrack for the trailer is. The very first part?
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:30 am

Our Chris Pratt and Vincent D'Onofrio in the new Magnificent Seven trailer

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:39 pm

The Divergent series will end as a TV Movie and a spinoff series.

I know that it's a Hunger Games ripoff, but I never thought that it would sink as low as this.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:32 pm

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:36 pm

@owenpratt wrote:
New "A Monster Calls" trailer, directed by J A Bayona:

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/movies/2016/07/13/87024604/

Looks great to me Smile

I really like the look of the creature in "A Monster Calls"; he's kind of like Treebeard mixed with Megatron (especially with those glowing red eyes) and for a trailer the effects shots are very impressive! I hope this is one of those sleeper hit films, something that gains momentum over time and winds up a decent success thanks to great word of mouth and reviews. This only bodes well for the Jurassic World sequel.

And the Magnificent Seven trailer looks fun; I don't know what to expect from it and I don't think it will necessarily top the original classic western. Chris Pratt looks like he's having a ball in the film, but I had hoped he would sound more like he had "blended in" to his surroundings. There were still shades of Owen Grady and Starlord in his performance; not that's a major turnoff for me, but I would like to see more variety from him.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:38 pm

Ice Age 5 bombs here in the U.S.A. with just slightly over $27 million. Oversees, it made $183 million.

I'm very surprised this movie bombed so badly. I always thought that the Ice Age movies were well thought of with children/teenagers.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:45 pm

It's pretty much strictly for children now, anyone else who followed the series is probably just tired of them.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:54 pm

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It's pretty much strictly for children now, anyone else who followed the series is probably just tired of them.


Even so, I never thought the movie would do this poorly. I always thought it had a huge fan base.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:05 pm

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Ice Age 5 bombs here in the U.S.A. with just slightly over $27 million. Oversees, it made $183 million.

I'm very surprised this movie bombed so badly. I always thought that the Ice Age movies were well thought of with children/teenagers.

It's made 317 million worldwide, and since the budget was a little over 100 mil, it's essentially a box office success.

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JK Rowling wrote the script for Part 2 which, according to Yates, “takes the story in a whole new direction” and “introduces new characters”.

“Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them 2” is slated for release on November 16 2018, with a third installment scheduled for November 20, 2020.

Yates, who helmed this year’s November 18 release, also directed the final four “Harry Potter” films.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:49 pm

I'm pretty excited for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. I know the HP hype right now is that new play script "sequel" book to the series, but I'm more interested in the movie. It explores a different place and time in the wizarding world, and for me, that's more intriguing than a regular sequel.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:47 am

I too am also excited for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and am planning on buying the short stories book on which it's based on to brush up on my Wizarding World lore. This year has been quite a boon in terms of fantasy movies. There have been many I've enjoyed such as Warcract (despite a number of my friends disliking it) and The BFG, and others that I've avoided like Alice Through the Looking Glass and The Huntsman: Winter's War, and then there are promising looking ones like Pete's Dragon, Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children and J.A. Bayona's very own A Monster Calls which definitely excites me the most.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:28 pm

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Ice Age 5 bombs here in the U.S.A. with just slightly over $27 million. Oversees, it made $183 million.

I'm very surprised this movie bombed so badly. I always thought that the Ice Age movies were well thought of with children/teenagers.

It's made 317 million worldwide, and since the budget was a little over 100 mil, it's essentially a box office success.

But most of that was overseas. Here in the U.S.A. it was a bomb.

Speaking of which, this article talks about how the rules of summer for Hollywood are the same despite this summer being a step below last year. (I could even make the argument it was a step below 2014 as well.)
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:27 am

In general though if we're looking at the overall numbers, the international box office saved it so technically it didnt flop.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:42 pm

Thank god.

Honestly, though, I'm surprised Sony never chose to do a Ghostbusters/Men in Black crossover. Those two series are much closer in terms of humor and tone.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:41 am

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Thank god.

Honestly, though, I'm surprised Sony never chose to do a Ghostbusters/Men in Black crossover. Those two series are much closer in terms of humor and tone.

I think that would have been better off it it was done in the late 90's via the MIB and Ghostbusters: Extreme cartoon shows.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:36 am

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Thank god.

Honestly, though, I'm surprised Sony never chose to do a Ghostbusters/Men in Black crossover. Those two series are much closer in terms of humor and tone.

I think that would have been better off it it was done in the late 90's via the MIB and Ghostbusters: Extreme cartoon shows.

I came up with a whole idea for this concepts. 100% agree those cartoons would've been a great crossover.

The ideas I had were firstly, the MIB were responsible for Ghostbusters II. Not the story, but the fact the public and the general population sort of ignore the Stay Puft incident and call the guys frauds.

The second was linking the reboot universe to the original, by saying the original films happened, but in a decision to silence the public (not due to not being able to handle ghosts, but actually due alien outcry regarding humans handling ghosts well, and aliens no longer wanting to hide), they neuralized everyone including the Ghostbusters after the events of the video game in 1992, going so far as to give them completely different identities (except Ray, and potentially Egon.) Egon dies in the intervening years, and Ray becomes a cab driver, unable to publicly work with the paranormal anymore (hence his dialogue in the cameo in GB 2016). That also explains certain repressed memories (as MIBII, for better or worse, shows neuralized memories can be restored), like the guy that makes the logo in the subway.

Does it all hold up? Hell no, but I tried.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:26 pm

According to this article, the animators of Sausage Party were treated very poorly. Around half of them were not even credited in the movie.

That's a shame. I was seriously thinking of seeing this movie, but reading this changed my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:52 pm

Not surprising really. VFX teams in general are treated really shitty in Hollywood. Hell, the special effects company doing the effects for the Life of Pi went bankrupt around the release of the film. Here's hoping some kind of union for them will form, but they don't have enough money to risk their jobs like that. It's just disgusting.

I'll probably still see the movie though.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:12 pm

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Not surprising really. VFX teams in general are treated really shitty in Hollywood. Hell, the special effects company doing the effects for the Life of Pi went bankrupt around the release of the film. Here's hoping some kind of union for them will form, but they don't have enough money to risk their jobs like that. It's just disgusting.

I'll probably still see the movie though.

It wouldn't matter. Most unions nowadays are either too weak to be effective or too corrupt. I'm part of a union where I work and it does very little, if anything, for me.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:34 pm


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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:43 pm

It looks great, glad that guy is doing Blade Runner 2.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:47 am

Dwayne Johnson, AKA The Rock, says that the new Jumanji movie is not a reboot.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:09 am

With this recent Jumanji announcement, this is a clear case of Sony chickening out about the whole Ghostbusters remake/reboot debacle and now they think they can claim that this new Jumanji is a "sequel" despite not featuring ANY of the old cast members. Granted, it's better than straight up remaking the original but everyone will still go in knowing that it was originally a remake and it will likely be judged on those grounds. All these other studios seem to be learning the wrong lessons from Star Wars' and Jurassic Park's comeback success.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:28 am

Part of me wonders if Sony thinks this can work simply because they have The Rock in it. Granted, he's become one the best actors in Hollywood so far. Far more then Hogan ever could been. But he can only do so much for a sequel that, lets face it, looks like it's going to be a semi-reboot like Jurassic World and Star Wars were.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:18 pm

Mel Brooks says that Blazing Saddles could never get made today.

The Ben-Hur reboot bombs big time.

Mission Impossible 6 is on hold for a while due to money issues.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:04 am

I feel like that Mel Brooks article is sort of stating the obvious. Besides the fact the comedy landscape has changed, even in the context of the film using the n-word so freely in a film just won't fly today.

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