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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:40 am

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Daniel Day-Lewis has retired from acting.

Now that's a sad state of affairs if ever there was one, as one of the greatest actors alive. I hope Day-Lewis gets to enjoy his retirement, if nothing else he has earned it.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:43 pm

I posted this in the Universal Dark Universe thread, but I thought it'd work here too. Thought's on the reason why "The Mummy" (2017), and Universal's Dark Universe, is failing...

I was watching the Brendan Fraser Mummy the other night, and I just love that movie to pieces. It's not just the nostalgia talking, either. I first saw the movie in the basement of my uncle's house, and I remember watching the credits in anticipation of one more good jump scare. The movie has a perfect blend of horror, action, and fun. Sure, it's cheesy as Wisconsin, but that adds to its appeal in the same way the cheese adds to "Independence Day's" appeal. I haven't seen the new Mummy, but everything I've heard about it thus far tells me all I need to know. It's a shallow attempt at resurrecting a classic that nobody wanted.

In the early days of the MCU, before there really WAS an MCU or a DCMU, and there were just a handful of unconnected Marvel movies... "Iron Man," "Spider-Man," "X-Men," you could really tell that studios weren't entirely sure this thing would take off. They had no idea comic book movies could have a demand. They simply saw a well proven idea, and wanted to see if they could replicate that success on the big screen. These early movies started out very conservatively made. Plot not too complicated, costumes never very exotic, just the simple Spider-Man vs Green Goblin, X-Men vs Magneto and the Brotherhood. The writers never bogged the films down with unnecessary connections. They never made distinctions between villains unless they absolutely needed to. The costume designers made sure to keep it grounded and realistic. Black leather flight suits instead of yellow and blue spandex, classic red and blue spidey-suit, sans web gauntlets and armpit webbing. They tied in the Green Goblin with military application, instead of a madman's odd lunacy. They made the Goblin costume look like armor instead of tights and didn't give him a broomstick. Instead of a mystical Chinese warlord forcing Tony Stark to create Iron Man, it was the Taliban that acted as the catalyst. In 2008, the Taliban and other Middle Eastern terrorist groups were as much a threat, if not moreso, to America as they are today. In a word, those early superhero movies were simple. The idea that there could be an CU didn't really arise in the public's mind until after the credits rolled on "Iron Man."

Fast foreward to today: the MCU is a HUGE success, perhaps the most successful brands after Star Wars. Every kid in the country knows who Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, the Incredible Hulk, Black Widow, the Falcon, Ant-Man, and so many other are. Even if they never picked up a comic book in their life. Many of Marvel's best have moved from obscurity to fan favorites. But Marvel took their time. They went with the big names first, then moved into the more obscure figures. They took their time. They planned it out. They created an MCU carefully and planned it out years ahead. Now costumes are fun and colorful, they can play and test, and see what works, what doesn't. Comic book movies have become just like their paper origins, and that's fantastic. But, then the DCMU came crashing in. DC wanted everything right now. No time for planning, DC had to play catch up to Marvel and get on the wagon before it was too late. Whereas DC usually has only showcased Batman and Superman in their movies, now they had to introduce not only obscure characters, but characters who hadn't been popular in moving pictures in decades, like Wonder Woman. They stumbled the first couple tries because they tried throwing everything in at once, instead of the characters coming one at a time. They didn't craft it carefully like Marvel did, and they suffered for it. They introduced obscure characters like the "Suicide Squad" and tried replicating "Guardians of the Galaxy" with it. They simply didn't know what they wanted from it, and tried getting complicated with it to compete with Marvel's built up universe. They're finally on the right track with Wonder Woman, and one can only hope it remains that that way.

Now, everybody wants a CU. Universal with their horror classics, Fox with "Terminator," Sony with "Ghostbusters," and they're all failing miserably because they think that just because the idea of a CU is proven, they don't have to do the hard work in setting it up. Heck, New Line Cinema has made a better CU than all those studios put together with their The Conjuring Universe, and they didn't even intend on it becoming one. Now they have 2 spin offs coming, with one successful one already out along side 2 main movies and a third on the way. And they did it by making quality, not quantity. "The Conjuring" movies are good, scary movies, with the rewatch value of "The Shining" or "Halloween," simply because they put so much effort into it, you notice new things each time you watch it, and it always manages to remain legitimately scary. THAT'S what Universal should have done. They should have forgone the levity and action of the MCU and DCMU, and all the other studio's failed attempts, and made their horror icons what they are: horror. Nobody wants to see the Mummy looking sexy walking down a London street, smashing every window on the way. They want to see this:

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:05 pm

Peter Debruge from Variety defends Phil Lord and Christopher Miller by saying that they are rare directors who bring fresh ideas and visions and are willing to fight for them.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:21 pm

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I posted this in the Universal Dark Universe thread, but I thought it'd work here too. Thought's on the reason why "The Mummy" (2017), and Universal's Dark Universe, is failing...

I was watching the Brendan Fraser Mummy the other night, and I just love that movie to pieces. It's not just the nostalgia talking, either. I first saw the movie in the basement of my uncle's house, and I remember watching the credits in anticipation of one more good jump scare. The movie has a perfect blend of horror, action, and fun. Sure, it's cheesy as Wisconsin, but that adds to its appeal in the same way the cheese adds to "Independence Day's" appeal. I haven't seen the new Mummy, but everything I've heard about it thus far tells me all I need to know. It's a shallow attempt at resurrecting a classic that nobody wanted.

In the early days of the MCU, before there really WAS an MCU or a DCMU, and there were just a handful of unconnected Marvel movies... "Iron Man," "Spider-Man," "X-Men," you could really tell that studios weren't entirely sure this thing would take off. They had no idea comic book movies could have a demand. They simply saw a well proven idea, and wanted to see if they could replicate that success on the big screen. These early movies started out very conservatively made. Plot not too complicated, costumes never very exotic, just the simple Spider-Man vs Green Goblin, X-Men vs Magneto and the Brotherhood. The writers never bogged the films down with unnecessary connections. They never made distinctions between villains unless they absolutely needed to. The costume designers made sure to keep it grounded and realistic. Black leather flight suits instead of yellow and blue spandex, classic red and blue spidey-suit, sans web gauntlets and armpit webbing. They tied in the Green Goblin with military application, instead of a madman's odd lunacy. They made the Goblin costume look like armor instead of tights and didn't give him a broomstick. Instead of a mystical Chinese warlord forcing Tony Stark to create Iron Man, it was the Taliban that acted as the catalyst. In 2008, the Taliban and other Middle Eastern terrorist groups were as much a threat, if not moreso, to America as they are today. In a word, those early superhero movies were simple. The idea that there could be an CU didn't really arise in the public's mind until after the credits rolled on "Iron Man."

Fast foreward to today: the MCU is a HUGE success, perhaps the most successful brands after Star Wars. Every kid in the country knows who Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, the Incredible Hulk, Black Widow, the Falcon, Ant-Man, and so many other are. Even if they never picked up a comic book in their life. Many of Marvel's best have moved from obscurity to fan favorites. But Marvel took their time. They went with the big names first, then moved into the more obscure figures. They took their time. They planned it out. They created an MCU carefully and planned it out years ahead. Now costumes are fun and colorful, they can play and test, and see what works, what doesn't. Comic book movies have become just like their paper origins, and that's fantastic. But, then the DCMU came crashing in. DC wanted everything right now. No time for planning, DC had to play catch up to Marvel and get on the wagon before it was too late. Whereas DC usually has only showcased Batman and Superman in their movies, now they had to introduce not only obscure characters, but characters who hadn't been popular in moving pictures in decades, like Wonder Woman. They stumbled the first couple tries because they tried throwing everything in at once, instead of the characters coming one at a time. They didn't craft it carefully like Marvel did, and they suffered for it. They introduced obscure characters like the "Suicide Squad" and tried replicating "Guardians of the Galaxy" with it. They simply didn't know what they wanted from it, and tried getting complicated with it to compete with Marvel's built up universe. They're finally on the right track with Wonder Woman, and one can only hope it remains that that way.

Now, everybody wants a CU. Universal with their horror classics, Fox with "Terminator," Sony with "Ghostbusters," and they're all failing miserably because they think that just because the idea of a CU is proven, they don't have to do the hard work in setting it up. Heck, New Line Cinema has made a better CU than all those studios put together with their The Conjuring Universe, and they didn't even intend on it becoming one. Now they have 2 spin offs coming, with one successful one already out along side 2 main movies and a third on the way. And they did it by making quality, not quantity. "The Conjuring" movies are good, scary movies, with the rewatch value of "The Shining" or "Halloween," simply because they put so much effort into it, you notice new things each time you watch it, and it always manages to remain legitimately scary. THAT'S what Universal should have done. They should have forgone the levity and action of the MCU and DCMU, and all the other studio's failed attempts, and made their horror icons what they are: horror. Nobody wants to see the Mummy looking sexy walking down a London street, smashing every window on the way. They want to see this:


Haven't seen the new one but you're absolutely correct. If it weren't for the title "the mummy" would anybody be able to guess that the woman walking down the street in that shot is a mummy? I don't think so. And I think that's what put a lot of people off. Los the fact that it almost looks like a mission impossible film. I know the original had shooting and action but good lord. From some of the footage I've watched online the tone seems all over the place.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:29 pm

As of now, 3 movies, The Wolf Of Wall Street, Dumb and Dumber To, and Daddy's Home, were made with stolen cash.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:54 pm

Mark Hamill finally has a Star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame.

Congrats, Joker. You got the last laugh, after all. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:09 pm

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As of now, 3 movies, The Wolf Of Wall Street, Dumb and Dumber To, and Daddy's Home, were made with stolen cash.



A movie about a guy who steals money for a living is made from stolen money.
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Mark Hamill finally has a Star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame.

Congrats, Joker. You got the last laugh, after all.  Very Happy

Bout time! You'd have to go to the middle of the Congo to find a kid who doesn't know who Luke Skywalker is.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:30 pm

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Bout time! You'd have to go to the middle of the Congo to find a kid who doesn't know who Luke Skywalker is.
and the Joker, too. which field did he get it for, movies or TV? 'cuz tbph i think he's more significant as a voice-actor, some of the best range, emotion, and energy you'll ever see even if you ignore his roles as the Joker
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:23 pm

Colin says he's kinda heartbroken about the very harsh reception for his new movie.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/colin-trevorrow-talks-heartbreaking-book-of-henry-reviews.html
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:28 pm

The trailer for Pitch Perfect 3 has been revealed as has the release date of Dec 22.

Right after Star Wars 8. Ouch...Bad timing Universal...Really bad timing...What were they thinking?!
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:37 pm

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Colin says he's kinda heartbroken about the very harsh reception for his new movie.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/colin-trevorrow-talks-heartbreaking-book-of-henry-reviews.html

I know the phrase "tough break" tends to get thrown around in a sarcastic way, but I do feel sorry for Colin at the reception of his book. This was his passion project, and the film he would have gone on to do next after Safety Not Guaranteed, had Spielberg not saved his career. He seems unable to escape his status as the nice guy who is the butt monkey of critics, journalists, and online trolls and know-it-alls; for example another review I read from The Guardian decided to rub further salt by saying: "You start to wonder if director Colin Trevorrow grew an extra set of arms for this project, just to cope with all the emotional button pushing."

Stay classy, Guardian.

As for Pitch Perfect 3, ha! Placing it right after The Last Jedi reeks of a lack of confidence in the product, like pitting the fourth Alvin & the Chipmunks movie against The Force Awakens, or Star Trek Nemesis against The Two Towers. Its like they want it over with quickly rather than reserve a similar date to the previous two films.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:41 pm

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As for Pitch Perfect 3, ha! Placing it right after The Last Jedi reeks of a lack of confidence in the product, like pitting the fourth Alvin & the Chipmunks movie against The Force Awakens, or Star Trek Nemesis against The Two Towers. Its like they want it over with quickly rather than reserve a similar date to the previous two films.

One would have think they would have learned something from that. I find it odd since the PP franchise has done respectably well as a whole.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:15 pm

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Troyal1 wrote:
Colin says he's kinda heartbroken about the very harsh reception for his new movie.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/colin-trevorrow-talks-heartbreaking-book-of-henry-reviews.html

I know the phrase "tough break" tends to get thrown around in a sarcastic way, but I do feel sorry for Colin at the reception of his book. This was his passion project, and the film he would have gone on to do next after Safety Not Guaranteed, had Spielberg not saved his career. He seems unable to escape his status as the nice guy who is the butt monkey of critics, journalists, and online trolls and know-it-alls; for example another review I read from The Guardian decided to rub further salt by saying: "You start to wonder if director Colin Trevorrow grew an extra set of arms for this project, just to cope with all the emotional button pushing."

Stay classy, Guardian.

As for Pitch Perfect 3, ha! Placing it right after The Last Jedi reeks of a lack of confidence in the product, like pitting the fourth Alvin & the Chipmunks movie against The Force Awakens, or Star Trek Nemesis against The Two Towers. Its like they want it over with quickly rather than reserve a similar date to the previous two films.

What is it with the hatred of Colin? They act like he's the next Michael bay or some sh*t. Now I'm going to admit that I don't really like him as a director, but he seems like a really genuine dude, and he certainly isn't even close to being TERRIBLE imo. 

Maybe people are so harsh because of Star Wars?
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:33 pm

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What is it with the hatred of Colin? They act like he's the next Michael bay or some sh*t. Now I'm going to admit that I don't really like him as a director, but he seems like a really genuine dude, and he certainly isn't even close to being TERRIBLE imo. 

Maybe people are so harsh because of Star Wars?

I think that's part of the issue; he quickly became the center of media attention and scrutiny after a successful revival of a popular franchise, even if it wasn't the triumphant return that it could have been in the eyes of many fans. It certainly could have been a hell of a lot worse than the final film turned out to be, but it could have been better. When he was chosen to direct Episode IX, everyone seemed to point to the financial success of JW as the sole reason why he was chosen. So when it came to Book of Henry not sticking the landing, that only exacerbated the vitriol towards him.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:54 pm

Here's Brad Jones and his friend Brian reviewing 'The Book Of Henry'.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:58 am

Avatar 2 will be in 3D but won't have 3D glasses.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:56 pm

Well, I'm just glad War for the Planet of the Apes is a masterpiece and most critics are loving it so far. Read some spoilers and damn, it's really going to be a dark movie. I want to watch it so bad, waited years for this. It's the only movie I trully care about this year, and I'm really glad it lived up to my expectations.

This movie is also a proof of how good CGI is amazing and outstands whatever pratical effect they would put in that movie. The apes look so fucking real, it's almost mindblowing to imagine it was all CGI. Whoever says CGI is crap and can't be better than pratical effects, I'll shove this movie down their faces. And Serkis deserve an Oscar too. 

By the way, I'm glad this reboot triology is amazing and should be an example of how to reboot a franchise.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:10 pm

Having recently rewatched Rise and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, and finding they get better from first to second film and get better on successive viewings, I'm really hyped for War for the Planet of the Apes! Its an example of every good thing that goes into a great reboot, and roving that you can in fact make a great story out of a franchise that has seemingly given all that it has left. I also revisited Jeremy Jahns' reviews for the Apes series, and he gave the "Awesometacular" rating to all of them, and if this final film is as great as I am hearing this trilogy looks to join the ranks of Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Toy Story and Back to the Future as among the most acclaimed trilogies in film.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:14 pm

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Having recently rewatched Rise and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, and finding they get better from first to second film and get better on successive viewings, I'm really hyped for War for the Planet of the Apes! Its an example of every good thing that goes into a great reboot, and roving that you can in fact make a great story out of a franchise that has seemingly given all that it has left. I also revisited Jeremy Jahns' reviews for the Apes series, and he gave the "Awesometacular" rating to all of them, and if this final film is as great as I am hearing this trilogy looks to join the ranks of Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Toy Story and Back to the Future as among the most acclaimed trilogies in film.
I like that these movies are prequel to the original 68 film. They are telling the story of HOW it becomes a Planet of the Apes, and I'm loving it. There's so many stories to be told in that universe, even if they don't want to continue this series, there are a lot of material that can be made into series/books. I love this franchise so much. My favorite after JP.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:17 pm

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Well, I'm just glad War for the Planet of the Apes is a masterpiece and most critics are loving it so far. Read some spoilers and damn, it's really going to be a dark movie. I want to watch it so bad, waited years for this. It's the only movie I trully care about this year, and I'm really glad it lived up to my expectations.

This movie is also a proof of how good CGI is amazing and outstands whatever pratical effect they would put in that movie. The apes look so fucking real, it's almost mindblowing to imagine it was all CGI. Whoever says CGI is crap and can't be better than pratical effects, I'll shove this movie down their faces. And Serkis deserve an Oscar too. 

By the way, I'm glad this reboot triology is amazing and should be an example of how to reboot a franchise.


You've got a point. But one of the reasons CGI looks so good in these movies is because apes are still alive and are real creatures. And not only that but they are our closest cousins and have a very expressive face, often with emotion. Life of PI did this amazingly with the tiger. 

CGI is much harder when you're trying to do something that is not human like in any way, something that doesn't exist, or something that hasn't existed in a long time. 

I've heard good things about the movie but I also heard the title "War" is a bit misleading. Also unpopular opinion but I prefer rise to dawn.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:59 pm

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Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
Well, I'm just glad War for the Planet of the Apes is a masterpiece and most critics are loving it so far. Read some spoilers and damn, it's really going to be a dark movie. I want to watch it so bad, waited years for this. It's the only movie I trully care about this year, and I'm really glad it lived up to my expectations.

This movie is also a proof of how good CGI is amazing and outstands whatever pratical effect they would put in that movie. The apes look so fucking real, it's almost mindblowing to imagine it was all CGI. Whoever says CGI is crap and can't be better than pratical effects, I'll shove this movie down their faces. And Serkis deserve an Oscar too. 

By the way, I'm glad this reboot triology is amazing and should be an example of how to reboot a franchise.


You've got a point. But one of the reasons CGI looks so good in these movies is because apes are still alive and are real creatures. And not only that but they are our closest cousins and have a very expressive face, often with emotion. Life of PI did this amazingly with the tiger. 

CGI is much harder when you're trying to do something that is not human like in any way, something that doesn't exist, or something that hasn't existed in a long time. 

I've heard good things about the movie but I also heard the title "War" is a bit misleading. Also unpopular opinion but I prefer rise to dawn.
I disagree a bit, if it was really the problem, then pratical effects of "Non-human" and unreal creatures would feel strange to us too. I think most of the hate about CGI is exagerated and just nitpick. For me, CGI is art. The guys that worked on WETA studios and gave life to those apes are artists. They deserve all the praise, also the actors in mo cap too.

Your opinion is not unpopular, most people think Rise is better than Dawn. I agree that Dawn had some problems, but it seems War is the best so far. And yes, it's not a movie ONLY about war, it's way more than that. It's a personal war, from Caesar's pespective.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:01 pm

It looks like a James Bond cinematic universe may happen.

This could be Sony's Plan B if their plan to revive and modify their own Spider-Man cinematic universe fails.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:42 pm

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Troyal1 wrote:
Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
Well, I'm just glad War for the Planet of the Apes is a masterpiece and most critics are loving it so far. Read some spoilers and damn, it's really going to be a dark movie. I want to watch it so bad, waited years for this. It's the only movie I trully care about this year, and I'm really glad it lived up to my expectations.

This movie is also a proof of how good CGI is amazing and outstands whatever pratical effect they would put in that movie. The apes look so fucking real, it's almost mindblowing to imagine it was all CGI. Whoever says CGI is crap and can't be better than pratical effects, I'll shove this movie down their faces. And Serkis deserve an Oscar too. 

By the way, I'm glad this reboot triology is amazing and should be an example of how to reboot a franchise.


You've got a point. But one of the reasons CGI looks so good in these movies is because apes are still alive and are real creatures. And not only that but they are our closest cousins and have a very expressive face, often with emotion. Life of PI did this amazingly with the tiger. 

CGI is much harder when you're trying to do something that is not human like in any way, something that doesn't exist, or something that hasn't existed in a long time. 

I've heard good things about the movie but I also heard the title "War" is a bit misleading. Also unpopular opinion but I prefer rise to dawn.
I disagree a bit, if it was really the problem, then pratical effects of "Non-human" and unreal creatures would feel strange to us too. I think most of the hate about CGI is exagerated and just nitpick. For me, CGI is art. The guys that worked on WETA studios and gave life to those apes are artists. They deserve all the praise, also the actors in mo cap too.

Your opinion is not unpopular, most people think Rise is better than Dawn. I agree that Dawn had some problems, but it seems War is the best so far. And yes, it's not a movie ONLY about war, it's way more than that. It's a personal war, from Caesar's pespective.

I don't disagree with you for a second about them not being artists. I just think CGI and practical both have their place. But you are correct that these films show people that CGI is certainly needed in films. 

I think Serkis and the effects team deserve Oscars.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:15 am

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:42 pm

Surprised no one posted this:



Caught it today when I was having some down time during funeral preparations, and I was kind of shocked. Like, lots of people here know I am one of the ones who liked Ghostbusters (2016). Yet, given how poorly it did, why does this look like the exact same mistakes from Sony here?

-Modern version of a movie considered a classic by many.
-Not a remake. A "reboot" which may or may not be able to exist alongside the original.
- Seems to be aimed at a different demographic. GB'16 tried to bring in women, this seems aimed more at teens and young adults, where the original had child characters and was marketed to children and families.
- A twist on the formula. GB'16 was a women team, this is a video game instead of a board game (and they get sucked inside instead of it coming out at them.)
- A tone clearly trying to evoke the original, but not exactly getting what the original succeeded at.
- Lastly, while not approaching GB numbers by any means, the trailer already has over 33,000 dislikes, which is still a pretty huge amount for most movies.

I mean, I'm not expecting the disaster that was GB'16, again even though I think its ok, but it seems like ou can go down the list and check the boxes and they come up pretty similar.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:40 am

I thought they were considering this a sequel because it references things from the original

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:29 pm

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Surprised no one posted this:



Caught it today when I was having some down time during funeral preparations, and I was kind of shocked. Like, lots of people here know I am one of the ones who liked Ghostbusters (2016). Yet, given how poorly it did, why does this look like the exact same mistakes from Sony here?

-Modern version of a movie considered a classic by many.
-Not a remake. A "reboot" which may or may not be able to exist alongside the original.
- Seems to be aimed at a different demographic. GB'16 tried to bring in women, this seems aimed more at teens and young adults, where the original had child characters and was marketed to children and families.
- A twist on the formula. GB'16 was a women team, this is a video game instead of a board game (and they get sucked inside instead of it coming out at them.)
- A tone clearly trying to evoke the original, but not exactly getting what the original succeeded at.
- Lastly, while not approaching GB numbers by any means, the trailer already has over 33,000 dislikes, which is still a pretty huge amount for most movies.

I mean, I'm not expecting the disaster that was GB'16, again even though I think its ok, but it seems like ou can go down the list and check the boxes and they come up pretty similar.

Not going to lie. I think it looks interesting without that Jumanji title. It just doesn't need that :/
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:33 pm

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TheDreamMaster wrote:
Surprised no one posted this:



Caught it today when I was having some down time during funeral preparations, and I was kind of shocked. Like, lots of people here know I am one of the ones who liked Ghostbusters (2016). Yet, given how poorly it did, why does this look like the exact same mistakes from Sony here?

-Modern version of a movie considered a classic by many.
-Not a remake. A "reboot" which may or may not be able to exist alongside the original.
- Seems to be aimed at a different demographic. GB'16 tried to bring in women, this seems aimed more at teens and young adults, where the original had child characters and was marketed to children and families.
- A twist on the formula. GB'16 was a women team, this is a video game instead of a board game (and they get sucked inside instead of it coming out at them.)
- A tone clearly trying to evoke the original, but not exactly getting what the original succeeded at.
- Lastly, while not approaching GB numbers by any means, the trailer already has over 33,000 dislikes, which is still a pretty huge amount for most movies.

I mean, I'm not expecting the disaster that was GB'16, again even though I think its ok, but it seems like ou can go down the list and check the boxes and they come up pretty similar.

Not going to lie. I think it looks interesting without that Jumanji title. It just doesn't need that :/

Much like GB'16, I'm in the same boat, I actually think it looks ok, but it doesn't need to be a Jumanji film. Part of me wonders if this was some kind of spec script that they slapped the name on and put in references. Like a guy wrote a film (maybe even called Welcome to the Jungle), and the studios wouldn't go for it. They took it back, called it Jumanji and made a few changes, and got the green light.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:53 pm

speaking of the Ghostbusters remake/reboot, i finally saw it recently. it's a solid "meh" for me, but i plan to watch it at least one more time before deleting it from my DVR. the only criticism i had based on the trailers was that StayPuft didn't look like a giant marshmallow man, he looked like a light-up parade balloon of a giant marshmallow man, which funnily enough turned out to be exactly the case.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:23 pm

July schedule is looking busy. Apes, Dunkirk, Spider-Man and GOT(I know it's not a movie but it looks good enough to be one). 

Great time to be a fan of film.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:44 pm

It looks like the projections of this summer being a bad one for movies have been true. Other then Wonder Woman and the new Spider-Man movie, all others have underperformed massively.

This picture says it all.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:59 pm

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It looks like the projections of this summer being a bad one for movies have been true. Other then Wonder Woman and the new Spider-Man movie, all others have underperformed massively.

This picture says it all.

While I certainly see Transformers and Pirates, I think Cars really shouldn't factor because it hasn't been out long, and the Cars films easily make up for losses in their merchandise.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:41 am

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:12 pm

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Yep, sure this won't come off as tasteless or anything.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:26 pm

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Yep, sure this won't come off as tasteless or anything.

To be fair though, has QT ever cared about offended people? lol
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:55 pm

Just got my tickets for Apes tonight!!! Will report back in a couple hours.

Edit: back. Going to be an unpopular opinion but I didn't like it at all really. And as a huge fan of the first and second I was supremely let down. One of my most fundamental Issues with the movies is 1. Breaking new ground 2. Potential 

1. I always felt like this might be a problem for me before seeing the film but I didn't bring it up ever. In rise we are living in today's world until a medical breakthrough changes the ways in which apes think. It sets up the universe nicely. 

In Dawn we have a massive jump from apes just fighting humans and being smarter to the world being post apocalyptic, apes riding horses and wielding guns. In war there is no such Jump. Not even remotely. I always thought this film looked far more like Dawn of the planet of the apes part 2 rather than a proper part 3 in this prequel trilogy. Yes some time has passed but as you can see from the trailers it's about the apes squabbling with another group of humans much like Dawn.

2. The potential of the movie is incredible. First off the CGI is amazing and probably the best I've ever seen. Even though I don't like the film I think Oscars are in order. The film starts with a battle that is incredible and sets a very bleak tone. After this I was on the edge of my seat, but the film takes a very sharp turn into unexpected territory. In the first 30-40 minutes there were moments where myself and the audience gasped audibly. But it was very weird, it was doing things you would not expect a blockbuster to do and right when I felt the film plodded along it puts us in a new location. Perfect I thought! This is where things pick up. 

The next section will be under spoilers but know this. There is no War in this film in any way you are expecting. Remember that cool poster where there are two armies standing head to head? Yeah nothing even remotely like that happens. Pretty much every big scene was already shown in the trailer that related to the war aspect... I'm not exaggerating. I think Rise has more ape on human action. 

Spoiler:
 

I know the majority of you guys are going to disagree with this review and that's okay but that's my honest opinion as a fan. There is honestly more stuff that I didn't like but I need to sleep. The first half of this movie was so good but I felt the second was so mediocre and forgettable.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:01 am

Okay, I'll play the devil advocate here. First, your opinion is pretty valid Troyal and I respect it and can see where you are coming from, specially that you watched the movie already.

As you guys might know, I'm a huge APES fan (not only this triology but the originals), and I think that people are expecting another thing from this movie, the way it's being marketed. It's not ONLY about a War between humans and apes, it's way more than that. Matt Reeves said in most interviews that this was more than an explicit WAR but more of a war inside Caesar's soul. A war inside the characters. And he kept also saying that this was about character and not just a Transformers action packed Blockbuster we see every time. So I think if you are expecting to see lots of action and WAR, you are going to not like this movie at all.

Title is misleading, but still on point. There's still a War, but more than that. And I find pretty interesting Reeves took the foccus on characters, that's what I want to see mostly. By the way, I think  it only makes the movie and conflict real. 

The movie only releases on August here, I'll try to watch it as soon as possible and check it out.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:45 am

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Okay, I'll play the devil advocate here. First, your opinion is pretty valid Troyal and I respect it and can see where you are coming from, specially that you watched the movie already.

As you guys might know, I'm a huge APES fan (not only this triology but the originals), and I think that people are expecting another thing from this movie, the way it's being marketed. It's not ONLY about a War between humans and apes, it's way more than that. Matt Reeves said in most interviews that this was more than an explicit WAR but more of a war inside Caesar's soul. A war inside the characters. And he kept also saying that this was about character and not just a Transformers action packed Blockbuster we see every time. So I think if you are expecting to see lots of action and WAR, you are going to not like this movie at all.

Title is misleading, but still on point. There's still a War, but more than that. And I find pretty interesting Reeves took the foccus on characters, that's what I want to see mostly. By the way, I think  it only makes the movie and conflict real. 

The movie only releases on August here, I'll try to watch it as soon as possible and check it out.

Very fair and valid point. Spino is correct in what he's saying. 

Although I was enjoying the movie even when it wasn't in war mode. There is a turn in the film 
Spoiler:
 

If you watch that woman on YouTube "beyond the trailer" non spoiler review she pretty much sums up my feelings exactly. I don't often agree with her but she felt the first half was a masterpiece but felt the same as me. She put it into words way better. 

https://youtu.be/gCJciV8YSnU
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:43 am

Personally I loved the prison stuff since it was Auschwitz-esque. Very dark stuff.

And the title is both misleading and very accurate. The ape and human battle at the beginning sums up what has been happening for two years so the instead of making a film that has constant ape and human battles the filmmakers go for a more personal route with Caesar being at war with his own darker impulses which IMO was the best way to go.

Also as a fan who grew up the original films I love how this movie connects to the very original film. Sure continuity wise the films like Escape, Conquest, and Battle can't be in the same continuity as Rise, Dawn, and War but it's not impossible for the original 1968 film (maybe even Beneath) to share two canons. For example the reboot of Friday the 13th in 2009 ignored every sequel but not the original so why can't these new Ape films do the same?

War defiantly alluded to the classic 1968 film but saying that film now officially shares two continuities is another story but I hope so.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:47 pm

More bad news for Sony Pictures.

A major financing company from Texas is going to stop helping Sony after multiple flops.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:11 pm

So I just watched War for the Planet of the Apes and loved it. (PS: Yes I watched from a torrent, felt horrible about doing that but I was so excited I couldn't wait).

I felt it was really a fast movie, hours went fast. I imagined it would be a more quiet movie, but no, I was impressed. Cinematography is just perfect. Every scene felt real. The apes look real. If anyone bitches about CGI not being so good, show this movie. This is really a slap in every CGI hater face. And Andy Serkis needs an Oscar. 

I loved it as a fan. 10/10 best movie of the year IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:28 am

With a budget of $180 million, “Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets” is the most expensive indie movie ever made.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:05 pm

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