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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:57 pm

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I am not surprised about the toys already being on clearance. I predicted this a long time ago.

It makes you wonder how long before they show up at the dollar store and/or Ollie's.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:24 pm

Target said it was an error.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:31 pm

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Target said it was an error.

I can't help but wonder how much of their stores are doing that for real though. Even if it was a huge error, many of the stores might just continue anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:06 pm

Here's the latest from Midnight's Edge about all the controversies about the Ghostbusters reboot.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:38 pm

I think I might go see this just out of curiosity.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:23 pm

So a YouTube channel I'm a fan of actually managed one of the first reviews of film....



Just.... I think all hope is gone.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:00 am

Yep, although the critics are trying to downplay this guy. But tomorrow the embargo is up so all hell will likely break loose.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:24 am

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Yep, although the critics are trying to downplay this guy. But tomorrow the embargo is up so all hell will likely break loose.

There's two more out, one very positive, one not quite negative, but not good either (basically he said the movie would be forgotten in 6 months.).


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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:31 am

Here's an update on the dance number from what I've heard/read. The actual number won't be in the movie per se, but you will see the before and after parts so it will have some influence on the movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:23 am

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@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Yep, although the critics are trying to downplay this guy. But tomorrow the embargo is up so all hell will likely break loose.

There's two more out, one very positive, one not quite negative, but not good either (basically he said the movie would be forgotten in 6 months.).


The positive guy is a Sony plant:

http://furiousfanboys.com/2016/07/sony-may-produced-positive-ghostbusters-review-youtube/

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:42 pm

People look at me weird because I'm not offended by the Ghostbusters reboot. I...I guess I'm not as emotionally invested in Ghostbusters as most people? I don't know, I feel like my attention is better spent obsessing over something that isn't Ghostbusters. It just isn't that important.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:17 pm

So...the reviews hit. And it all seems like most of them are obsessed with 'proving the haters wrong'.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:40 pm

The percentage it's at right now is is pretty low in my opinion, and the pattern I've noticed on Rotten Tomatoes is that generally get worse as more reviews come in. However, even the top critics are making this thing political, and so I have a feeling the lesser critics, the ones who have something to loose or gain by making their review political, might give it more praise and thus messing with the results.

I have no doubt it'll be successful at the box office, and that's a shame in my opinion, but I was really hoping that most critics would review it honestly (at this point I can't say I'm on the 'I hope this is good, no one wants to hope for a bad movie!' because the marketing and claims of sexism infuriate me and I really hope this does bad at least critically), and from what I've read these aren't honesty reviews but delusions and pandering. This might actually stay at around 60%, but I can't see it going higher than 70.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:20 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
So...the reviews hit. And it all seems like most of them are obsessed with 'proving the haters wrong'.

I think some review outlets might be scared. I mean, if a fan offers a genuine complaint they are immediately labeled immature and sexist by the studio and a lot of other publications. James Rolfe was attacked for saying he didn't want to see it and there was nothing bad about what he said. So I think a lot of sites are nervous to say it's flat out terrible (assuming it is).
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:23 pm

Guys....the end credit scene...
https://twitter.com/Nickrob/status/752187356870955008

^That has been confirmed as true. Ugh. Not giving this movie any of my money.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:35 pm

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Guys....the end credit scene...
https://twitter.com/Nickrob/status/752187356870955008

^That has been confirmed as true. Ugh. Not giving this movie any of my money.

Hope that's not true No No
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:09 pm

So the so-called "film" is sitting at 74% on Rotten Rotten Tomatoes out of 43 reviews as of the time of this writing.

Still don't care, the onslaught of horrible press from Sony, the directors, the cast, nightmare inducing production history and braindead marketing turned me off this sorry excuse a long time ago. I don't care of people (outside of this good site of course) label me as sexist/racist I will know that I'm not what they think I am. I know that I am tired of feeling like I'm being lied to, judged, insulted and reduced to being a corporate slave because of blackmail and insidious mind games. If this persists, and most of the "positive" reviews are merely political statements of allegiance to the movie's agenda, then forget it. I'll stick to my Warcraft, my Legend of Tarzan, even Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition, every movie that has been labelled divisive or subpar that I happen to enjoy on a certain level - but I will never endorse this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:12 pm

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The percentage it's at right now is is pretty low in my opinion, and the pattern I've noticed on Rotten Tomatoes is that generally get worse as more reviews come in. However, even the top critics are making this thing political, and so I have a feeling the lesser critics, the ones who have something to loose or gain by making their review political, might give it more praise and thus messing with the results.

I have no doubt it'll be successful at the box office, and that's a shame in my opinion, but I was really hoping that most critics would review it honestly (at this point I can't say I'm on the 'I hope this is good, no one wants to hope for a bad movie!' because the marketing and claims of sexism infuriate me and I really hope this does bad at least critically), and from what I've read these aren't honesty reviews but delusions and pandering. This might actually stay at around 60%, but I can't see it going higher than 70.

As of this writing, it has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:00 pm

I meant as the final result, that's what I meant by 'stay at'. I'll be surprised, and deeply concerned, if its above 70 after the release.

If it actually is good, I'll see it eventually but I'm certainly not going to pay to see it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:01 pm

Well thanks to some free passes, didn't pay and have tickets to the 7 p.m. screening on Thursday. The reviews are so damn all over the place, and with what Sickle posted I'm not exactly excited if they really do tell me that being a man is bad. But, lets see how it goes. Btw, Bloody Disgusting, posted their review, and its, average.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3398233/ghostbusters-review-paul-feig/

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:25 am

That's surprising considering they make sure to let you know something is worth seeing.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:11 am

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That's surprising considering they make sure to let you know something is worth seeing.

I'm sort of 50/50 on BD, I like the site for the most part, but I didn't agree with a couple of their reviews in the past (Mockingbird, and Mine Games, I think were two films they reviewed highly and I watched them and they were just not good.), but usually I trust their opinions. It's a weird review though, because they praise it as a mile stone film in terms of heroes little girls can look up to, but pretty much slam the film and say its bad and stuff. It doesn't make me think they got paid off or anything, but it does make me wonder if like a lot fo the critics, they've become so afraid of the SJW backlash they had to post something positive in their review. Could be it really is just an average movie and not as bad as everyone has predicted, but I'll still reserve that judgement for my own opinion.

@Sickle_Claw wrote:
Guys....the end credit scene...
https://twitter.com/Nickrob/status/752187356870955008

^That has been confirmed as true. Ugh. Not giving this movie any of my money.

The dance scene at the end of the credits is 100% true, but no one else I've talked to mentions this thing about Hemsworth. I'm thinking the guy in Twitter post is just trying mess with people more, but I wouldn't necessarily put it out of the realm of possibility either.

EDIT: 77% on Rotten Tomatoes by all critics, but top critics its only 50%. Feels like something going on there.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:58 am

I'm hopeful that the reviews are just anomalies since the real critics usually come out between Wed, Thur, and Fri with a few on Sat. When you hear from those, you'll know the truth. Even if this does start out well, I fully expect this movie to implode big time via Batman vs. Superman and Sony's first GINO movie, Godzilla 1998.

And Amy Pascal has now gone insane.

Vanity Fair didn't like the movie.

Richard Roeper just destroyed this movie. He didn't hold back ,he tore it apart!
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:20 pm

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Well thanks to some free passes, didn't pay and have tickets to the 7 p.m. screening on Thursday. The reviews are so damn all over the place, and with what Sickle posted I'm not exactly excited if they really do tell me that being a man is bad. But, lets see how it goes. Btw, Bloody Disgusting, posted their review, and its, average.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3398233/ghostbusters-review-paul-feig/

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:06 pm

I'm not going to watch this movie, not bc I'm sexist but I've heard it's really bad and plus I've never found Ghostbursters movies funny or that appealing to me. My opinion of course.

What makes me feel bad is that the studio is trying to combat sexism with more sexism as said the final scene has someone appologizing for being a man. That's over the top. Way too much. I know some of the critics are talking trash about the movie bc it's all women cast, but most of the critics/reviews I see are about how the movie is bad and they have a reason.

Trying to label all men as rapists/sexist isn't a good way to combat prejudice against women. That will just fire back.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:02 pm

I think the original two are good movies, but I've never been much of a fan. I was actually really optimistic of the movie and even though I thought it looked bad, it didn't seem as bad as some made it out to be and was okay with the female cast (and most of us haters are, from what I've seen). But then the creators were calling me sexist for thinking it wasn't good, and that was way too far and that's when I actively started hating it. Even if the movie isn't that bad, I'll still hate it. I doubt I'll never not hate this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:03 pm

@Troyal1 wrote:
@TheDreamMaster wrote:
Well thanks to some free passes, didn't pay and have tickets to the 7 p.m. screening on Thursday. The reviews are so damn all over the place, and with what Sickle posted I'm not exactly excited if they really do tell me that being a man is bad. But, lets see how it goes. Btw, Bloody Disgusting, posted their review, and its, average.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3398233/ghostbusters-review-paul-feig/

I hope to get a detailed review from you.
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Thanks Troya, I appreciate that. And trust me, I'll go into every detail when I see it.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:32 am

More negitive reviews on Ghostbusters 2016.

This one says that Kate McKinnon is the only good new Ghostbuster. I actually agree with that since she does have a great attitude from what I've seen in the trailers.

Update: Her character is sexually ambiguous. I don't care about that part. If they say her character is good enough to be the legitimately good new Ghostbuster like many say, then I can handle that.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:58 pm

China has banned Ghostbusters because of their no-ghost rule. It's unfortunate that China has that kind of stuff, but on the bright side (in my opinion), it means that this will make barely anything in its international release. That mixed with the huge amount of money they must have had spent on marketing and the negative word of mouth the movie has received, this may not actually be the box office success I was beginning to think it would be.

However, it's still in a good position because the only movie right now that could possibly compete is Secret Life of Pets, and the next biggest movie doesn't come out until the 22nd, if I remember correctly. There is plenty of room for it to make money.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:28 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
More negitive reviews on Ghostbusters 2016.

This one says that Kate McKinnon is the only good new Ghostbuster. I actually agree with that since she does have a great attitude from what I've seen in the trailers.

Update: Her character is sexually ambiguous. I don't care about that part. If they say her character is good enough to be the legitimately good new Ghostbuster like many say, then I can handle that.

Kate seems to be a huge point of debate in this film. From a lot of the reviews I read that mention her, it seems like she's a "love it or hate it" character.

I'm interested to see how we all feel about her.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:52 am

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@Rhedosaurus wrote:
More negitive reviews on Ghostbusters 2016.

This one says that Kate McKinnon is the only good new Ghostbuster. I actually agree with that since she does have a great attitude from what I've seen in the trailers.

Update: Her character is sexually ambiguous. I don't care about that part. If they say her character is good enough to be the legitimately good new Ghostbuster like many say, then I can handle that.

Kate seems to be a huge point of debate in this film. From a lot of the reviews I read that mention her, it seems like she's a "love it or hate it" character.

I'm interested to see how we all feel about her.

Well tonight is the night I'm seeing it, so I'll let you know my own opinion. Razz

A review I watched last night from the channel schmoesknows had two guys, and one thought the entire cast had good chemistry, while the other thought McKinnon seemed like she was in another film. I remember that first negative review from WrecklessEating really liked McKinnon despite hating the film. So I guess we'll see how it goes, but it seems like she's on the opposite of the socially awkward spectrum from Egon, which is who everyone assumed she'd be in this film.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:51 am

Playboy posted a great article on the making of Ghostbusters: The Video Game, and since I don't want to post a link to Playboy here due to other adult content around that site, I'll post the text in a spoiler box below.

Spoiler:
 

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:54 am

Sorry in advance, I know this is like a triple post from me, but I have to update. Saw the new movie. First I'll talk non-spoilers, then, some spoilers.

So my quick, honest first impressions. It was alright. Out of a rating, I'm wavering somewhere around a 6.5 out of 10. Do not judge it by the trailers, a lot of the cringey bits actually worked much better in context. For all the "man hate" that was reported, I didn't find it nearly as bad as some made it out to be. There's some pretty stupid guys, and there's some assholes, but overall, it didn't really take away from it for me. A lot of the jokes land, and there aren't many that don't. It does tone down the laughs for action in the third act.

The villain is bland. I do admit I had some issues here. I'll get into those more in the spoilers, but he seems to be sort of that first villain for the sake of a potential franchise to setup the origin story.

The GBs are honestly mostly great. Erin (Wiig) is probably my least favorite because she's smart but awkward and has this huge crush she shows every time she's around Kevin. Abby (McCarthy) is a pretty good straight (wo)man type character. Holtzman (McKinnon) steals the show being sort of a reverse Egon, extremely smart but also outgoing and very weird. Patty (Jones) is actually great. I was really afraid she was going to be "loud, female Winston", but honestly, when she says she knows New York, she really knows a lot about the city and its history. Kevin (Hemsworth), despite ebing the stupid male character, was just hilarious.

So now spoilers, and my likes/dislikes.
Spoiler:
 

- The fact they do some of those "put down scenes" towards the women to make them look more badass when they triumph. Example: While fighting Rowan in Kevin's body he makes such great insults as "You shoot like a girl."

So, there's my review. Better than expected. It doesn't touch the original, but standing on its own, its decent. I downed this movie hard for over a year, so color me surprised that I ended up enjoying myself. And, I'm not mad at that. It's not the Ghostbusters film I wanted, but it's a film I enjoyed, another Ghostbusters film I got to enjoy at that. Everyone may not agree, and that's fine, but to use a quote from a film we all love here, "It could've been worse John. A lot worse."

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:29 am

^well it sounds like marketing needs to step back and look at what they're putting out for trailers.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:23 pm

So...TDM was the after credits scene as bad as I thought?

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:27 pm

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So...TDM was the after credits scene as bad as I thought?
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:41 pm

Ghostbusters: Answer the Call gets a solid 8/10 from me.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:05 pm

From what I've heard, the Ghostbusters reboot is just an average movie. That wasn't really worth all the huge uproar. It's just...there.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:37 pm

So my parents went to GB earlier today and I wanted to share their thoughts. Neither of them are big fans of the franchise but they do like the original.

My mom gave it a 6/10 and my dad a 5.5/10.

Mom thought the trailer looked good while my dad thought the trailers looked terrible (for reference).

Basically they said a lot of what you guys are saying. Dad says some of the ghost designs are pretty cool but it looks a bit goofy(he compared it to haunted mansion). But he said it's not distracting in his opinion.

Mom and dad are very split on Kate McKinnon. Mom thinks her character was annoying but Dad liked it. They both found Kevin to be "meh"

They both pointed out that the movie is not as terrible as the trailers. In conclusion they said it was an entertaining movie, not really laugh out loud. They enjoyed themselves but they said unless you are a huge fan you should redbox it.

I know that's a bit brief but it's all I could get from them lol.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:59 pm

DPFAR

Ghostbusters sequel will "no doubt" happen, says Sony exec.

http://screenrant.com/ghostbusters-2016-sequel-no-doubt/
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:25 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
From what I've heard, the Ghostbusters reboot is just an average movie. That wasn't really worth all the huge uproar. It's just...there.
I disagree. The uproar was about how the media treated the naysayers as sexists and made the movie a political event. The movie was besides the point.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:14 pm

Well I saw the film again, my kids wanted to go so I decided to take them. And now, with all the negativity gone from my mind and such, I think it played even better to me. I'm actually going to bump up my original rating from 6.5 to a 7. I still don't think the film will work for everyone, but for what it is, I enjoyed it.

There were certain scenes I found myself just absolutely smiling at. It was a fun time.


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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:15 pm

@Troyal1 wrote:
DPFAR

Ghostbusters sequel will "no doubt" happen, says Sony exec.

http://screenrant.com/ghostbusters-2016-sequel-no-doubt/

I seriously hope that happens. I'm riding that this film gets an awesome sequel that puts GB2's sequel status to shame.

Expect a full, spoilery review from me in a few.

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:02 pm

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@Troyal1 wrote:
DPFAR

Ghostbusters sequel will "no doubt" happen, says Sony exec.

http://screenrant.com/ghostbusters-2016-sequel-no-doubt/

I seriously hope that happens. I'm riding that this film gets an awesome sequel that puts GB2's sequel status to shame.

Expect a full, spoilery review from me in a few.

If it happens, then I hoping that they can ret-con it and this movie into a modified version of GB3 via a 2 part series.

The Hollywood Reporter has a good article about the movie.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-analysis-why-ghostbusters-911836

Here's what Comic Book Girl 19 says about everything so far.



Ivan Reitman says the animated Ghostbusters movie was never real.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghostbusters Thread   Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:33 pm

According to this, the Ghostbusters movie needs $300-$400 million, and Paul Feig said $500 million, to break even.



Here's one of the sources that it uses that say so.
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