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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:36 pm

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Suicide Squad got an Oscar nomination for best makeup.

Well can't say I saw that happening.

I did think the makeup work on Killer Croc was exquisite, and the crazy designs of the other Squad members were morbidly interesting in their own way, but I never thought it would have been enough to warrant an Academy Award nomination.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:39 pm

Me neither. I know it was a profitable movie, but I never thought Suicide Squad of all comic book movies would ever get an Oscar nomination.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:50 pm

Well Joker, Croc and Quinn among others have extensive make up. so I mean it does make sense plus it could always be a weak year. I don't think it will win though. Oscars like to support one movie a year.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:29 pm

'The Flash' is in more trouble again.

Joby Harold is doing a page-one rewrite.

I don't know what a page one rewrite is, but if it's another name for a whole script rewrite, then I can't help but wonder if it's a matter of time before the whole thing gets thrown out.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:43 am

What's puzzling is that they've had a highly successful TV show for the Flash for some time now, and yet they aren't taking notes from what made that show work?

Who would have thought the Flash of all characters would prove so difficult for them to make a good film of?
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:51 am

Or at the very least a respectable one. Ant-Man was one thing since it never had the mainstream media screen of the rest of the MCU heroes (and dark heroine Black Widow) but even that turned to be a respectable movie. Even without the TV show, The Flash has had quite bit of fame on TV.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:29 am

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'The Flash' is in more trouble again.

Joby Harold is doing a page-one rewrite.

I don't know what a page one rewrite is, but if it's another name for a whole script rewrite, then I can't help but wonder if it's a matter of time before the whole thing gets thrown out.

A page 1 rewrite is redoing the whole thing all over again.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:51 pm

Thought as much. I can't help but wonder if WB is putting money in a failing project and would be better off using it to improve their existing projecting in the DCCU.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:09 pm

The Flash is too big to ignore. If it was Cyborg or Shazam, maybe but it isn't. It is like Marvel skipping Thor or Hulk. Granted they've only done one Hulk but they still did it.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:13 pm

So basically, WB is forced to build this ship even it sinks. That sounds a lot like the DCCU in a whole nutshell so far.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:23 pm

Yeah pretty much. They kind of pigeonholed themselves by announcing the film schedule for like the next 5 years too.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:42 pm

They should just bite the bullet and postpone the Flash movie for by a year or more. Aquaman appears to be in clearer waters (pun intended). Their habit of announcing their movies without actually having a script or pre-planned deadline will continue to undo them unless they stop being so damn reactionary.

Wonder Woman could be the one film to change the conversation as far as DC success is concerned. But that's a lot of stakes to place on one movie, and I don't envy Patty Jenkins if it falls apart...
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:53 pm

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They should just bite the bullet and postpone the Flash movie for by a year or more. Aquaman appears to be in clearer waters (pun intended). Their habit of announcing their movies without actually having a script or pre-planned deadline will continue to undo them unless they stop being so damn reactionary.

Wonder Woman could be the one film to change the conversation as far as DC success is concerned. But that's a lot of stakes to place on one movie, and I don't envy Patty Jenkins if it falls apart...

And even if Wonder Woman does turn out to be good, or at least respectable, there is always the chance of Justice League ruining that. Thankfully, Ben Affleck being promoted as EP lowered that chance quite a bit, but that chance never really died off considering how mixed of a bag Suicide Squad turned out to be and all the leaks that have come out about both Wonder Woman and Justice League.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:44 pm

i've said it before but Warner Bros. is really trying to do too much too fast
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:31 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:04 pm

Hes still writing the movie and he's still playing Batman. Until he steps away from the role, then the movie will be on deathwatch.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:05 pm

I was talking about the entire DCCU in general. At this point, he's probably so frustrated with how it's all gone, that he's only doing it for the sake of making a good Batman movie. If he was angry enough to step down as director, then it's only a matter of time before another big shoe drops.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:37 am

"Deathwatch" is probably the word for me; this is definitely a troubling sign but for me the coffin and funeral march won't commence until he up and leaves the part. That will be it for me.

Wonder Woman absolutely must deliver on every level if the DCEU is to have a chance of survival through this sure-to-be tumultuous year, and if Justice League being averagely or well received then they may yet survive.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:33 am

I wonder if Affleck stepping down has anything to do with that recent movie of his flopping.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:25 am

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I wonder if Affleck stepping down has anything to do with that recent movie of his flopping.

Even that was WB's fault for cutting it shorter.

Chris Terro has turned in a rewrite of the Batman script. He did write Argo so he has that for him.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:09 pm

DC and WB should just focus on turning their properties into amazing Lego movies. That Batman seems keen to be the best superhero film they've had in almost a decade. Razz

Ben Affleck is a decent director but he was doing too much for the film as is and I don't think he is a GREAT director per se. That is I don't think he can make nearly everything he touches turn to gold. His best films had a ton of aid from others. Good Will Hunting was written by Matt Damon as well and Argo had Terro. The Academy awarding him for Argo over Lincoln really inflated his rep a bit much.

But I am also a little biased as I thought he was not only the wrong choice for the Caped Crusader but I thought the choice to make Batman older was.....unwise. I am also a proponent of a Batman without any Robin (although Dick after he has become Nightwing isn't bad) though.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:21 pm

Here's Andre Meadows, AKA, Black Nerd's take on it.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:09 pm

Concept art of Bat-Monster, either Man-Bat or Bruce Wayne's dark side-The Bat-is released.

It could be both. That Man-Bat is really Bruce Wayne's dark side instead of a flesh and blood villain.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:53 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:46 pm

Some fans are starting a petition for Zach Snyder to direct the Batman movie.

This makes no sense. Synder was heavily criticized for Batman vs. Superman and was basically a figurehead/puppet after Ben Affleck was made the executive producer for Justice League. Why would he want to be a figurehead/puppet for Affleck again?
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:09 pm

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Some fans are starting a petition for Zach Snyder to direct the Batman movie.

This makes no sense. Synder was heavily criticized for Batman vs. Superman and was basically a figurehead/puppet after Ben Affleck was made the executive producer for Justice League. Why would he want to be a figurehead/puppet for Affleck again?

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:49 am

I propose to just sit back and watch the petition shrivel up and die. I have no idea who WB will hire to replace Ben Affleck with the directing duties, but I really hope it's not Snyder. Not because I don't like the guy or think he's untalented, but it's clear that he's a visual director first and foremost, not a storyteller kind of director. Affleck is a storyteller, and that'w why it was so important to have him on board and on good terms with the suits.

Now, a most likely case scenario would be a talented but inexperienced director without any influence; someone like Gareth Edwards or Colin Trevorrow before they landed their respective giant monster/dinosaur projects. They'll never get a David Fincher or Denis Villeneuve now; the highest bid would probably be a Gavin O'Connor, who has worked with Affleck on the sleeper hit The Accountant, a film that defied the critical snubbing it got.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:10 pm

I have to remind people that Synder himself said that he'd like to see Batman raped in prison. Granted, that won't happen with Affleck as executive producer if Synder does take the job. But even so, their is now way how Synder can be director now. Even if he didn't say this, then as long as the DCU/DCCU is concerned, he is damaged beyond repair.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:01 pm

Nice to hear that LEGO Batman is way ahead of 50 Shades Darker, but I hope John Wick 2 is able to stay afloat and outpace 50 Shades in the long run.

Also, I am pleased that Matt Reeves got the directing gig for The Batman, now it's up to Warner Bros not to meddle and hijack the production like they did with Suicide Squad, but somehow I doubt it and really hope those fears are proven wrong. Reeves is a seasoned director with his own visual style and a good handle on visual effects as a means to tell the story, and he seems the sort not to let his ego get the better of him.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:58 pm

At this rate I think we might see a complete and total reboot of the DCEU within the next few years of this string of discouraging reports continues to filter out of WB, and that means jettisoning the whole cast to boot. The smart money would be on using Flashpoint to fix the timeline, and write off this phase as the "dark ages" of the DCEU if one preferred. Again, I won't declare the franchise DEAD until Affleck openly announces that he will leave after 'The Batman'. Wonder Woman and Justice League could be good to okay movies, but they probably won't be enough to win people over at this rate.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:56 pm

they did already imply time-traveling Flash in BvS, so it could work if they execute it well--could even be a decent way to brush off the faults of their previous films and move on as well as justifying any recasts (iirc Leto's being replaced as Joker, so that's one example)
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:45 pm

@Oshronosaurus wrote:
i think DC/Warner Bros is mainly just trying to do too much too fast with their cinematic universe, just very suddenly rushing into the crossover whereas Marvel took their sweet time doing so. of course, there hadn't really been anything like the MCU in its structure beforehand so they kind of have an unfair advantage. on the other hand, i think most DC characters have more "star power", so to speak, than alot of Marvel characters.

Actually, Leto is staying on as Joker until anything else changes. As for Affleck, the mindset is that it all depends on how Wonder Woman and Justice League does. If they are respectable/good, he stays. If they are average/bad, he's gone. Not only that, but I'm not sure if that can work considering how they have botched so much of everything so far.

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So, Batman is imploding and may die completely, or at least have the movie made but with somebody else being recast to play Batman/Bruce Wayne, The Flash is in chaos with 2 directors dropping out and a script re-write, and the whole DC movie universe is resting on 1 huge movie or 1 huge movie and one very big one, depending on your point of view. But don't worry folks, Suicide Squad 2 is coming along perfectly fine.  

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:09 am

i think you quoted the wrong post, but interesting news. i'd just remembered reading earlier in the thread that Leto was/might be dropped as the Joker
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:00 pm

I thought the main reason Mel made Hacksaw Ridge was to make a statement about real life heroism as a contrast to the fantastical heroism of superheroes. At any rate, it would be a waste for WB to have Mel direct the Suicide Squad sequel, I'd rather see his take on Justice League II. But that's even predicated on the notion that he can be persuaded, and my guess is that won't be the case. I even heard that WB want to try and coax Peter Jackson to direct the JL sequel, and probably market it as "From the Director of The Lord of the Rings"
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:19 pm

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
I thought the main reason Mel made Hacksaw Ridge was to make a statement about real life heroism as a contrast to the fantastical heroism of superheroes. At any rate, it would be a waste for WB to have Mel direct the Suicide Squad sequel, I'd rather see his take on Justice League II. But that's even predicated on the notion that he can be persuaded, and my guess is that won't be the case. I even heard that WB want to try and coax Peter Jackson to direct the JL sequel, and probably market it as "From the Director of The Lord of the Rings"

He has said that he does like some superhero movies that have been made. And the fact that he and WB are in talks means that he hasn't outright rejected the notion. Not to mention the fact that it shows how desperate WB is for an accomplished director. TBH, at this point, I think that if this pans out, then people will see it only to see how it turns out. Besides, this also throws off much of the bad news that WB has been getting. It's not like what Sony was with GB 2016 where people wanted the movie to fail, and with good reason. People want the DCCU to succeed desperately.
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