Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:27 pm
When Luke said 'I've seen this strength before' was he talking about his nephew or was he talking about the raw power he personally felt via Emperor Palpitine's force lightning in ROJ?
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:23 pm
He is talking about Kylo Ren. His lack of fear over it contributed to the destruction of the Order and Kylo's turn.
Might make a "things we learned from the trailer" post later on to discuss a lot of what went down.
But needless to say, I don't think people will be saying this is an Empire rehash.
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:45 am
Scott B wrote:
He is talking about Kylo Ren. His lack of fear over it contributed to the destruction of the Order and Kylo's turn.
Might make a "things we learned from the trailer" post later on to discuss a lot of what went down.
But needless to say, I don't think people will be saying this is an Empire rehash.
What if he’s secretly talking to someone else in that scene and he means Rey?
A man can dream. I really hope she goes bad and Kylo good. I think Adam Driver is such a great actor either way.
I know it’s unlikely but still.
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:18 am
He can't be talking about Rey because then he'd say he has seen the power twice and it has burned him both times. That is one of the only bits of unambiguous dialogue in the trailer. He wouldn't gloss over failing with Kylo first.
There is still a chance for your wish to happen although I think the last two shots are now an obvious fake out. But it can still happen. Or maybe Ben is extending an olive branch to Luke.
Now for a rehash of what was seen:
Spoiler:
Kylo surveying a base or manufacturing plant/shipyard of the FO
Snoke is talking to someone about their potential, obvious pick is Kylo, but Rey seems like a smart sleeper given the rest of the trailer.
A couple shots of Crait. Kylo Ren is present at the battle.
One shot of Kylo Ren meeting with Snoke as requested at the end of TFA, to complete his training.
Training shots of Rey on Ahch-to.
Luke referencing Kylo Ren (and his destruction of Luke's Order) when seemingly speaking to Rey about her power which she asked for help controlling.
Kylo Ren perhaps shedding his identity or the identity of Ben Solo by physically destroying his mask (or accepting himself for who he is?). This shot was alluded to in the first trailer. Either way, no more mask to hide himself. Another possibility is he has lost his idolization of Darth Vader. He did mention letting the past die. Perhaps he is referring to more than just his ties to Luke and the Solos.
Shots of Kylo controlling his ship in a battle vs his mother and a chance to kill her. He appears to waffle on it hinting at some good.
Chewie, Porgs and the Falcon coming to the rescue on Crait?
Poe witnessing the decimation of the Resistance fleet first hand and possibly although unlikely the death of Leia. Furthermore, assumes a large leadership role in the movement in the process.
Kaydel Ko Connix in the background?
Finn duels with Phasma either at Canto Bight or the Star Destroyer Finn was being detained at.
Luke talking to Kylo or rey (probably rey in reference to her training) about things not going according to plan...looks like Ahch-to.
Crait creatures retreating.
Leia on Crait.
Snoke monologuing.
Snoke mentally torturing Rey to break her.
Rey asking for guidance and her role in the galaxy (she is wearing the Resistance clothing she had on when arriving on Ahch-to to give Luke his father's lightsaber)
Kylo extending a hand. Perhaps to Rey. But sleepers are leia and luke in my opinion.
Fin(n)
Food for thought. The big bombshell at the end looks more and more like a deception.
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:43 am
I think this may be the most visually beautiful Star Wars film yet. The cinematography, the color, the effects, it looks jawdropping.
God, I hate the Porgs though. They are nothing but toys.
Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:32 pm
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:20 pm
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:25 pm
Dead2009 wrote:
STAR WARS: Daisy Ridley Confirms She Doesn't Want To Play Rey Beyond EPISODE IX https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/star_wars/star-wars-daisy-ridley-confirms-she-doesnt-want-to-play-rey-beyond-episode-ix-a155876
This makes me think she might actually die.
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:16 pm
So theres a pretty weird spoiler floating out there about SNoke and Rey in TLJ
Spoiler:
At the end, Snoke is revealed to be a body snatcher, and his current form isn't his real body. He was basically having his super evil plan to be to try to get a powerful force user and put his body in theirs. TLJ supposedly ends with Snoke possessing Rey before Luke can stop it
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:39 pm
Sickle_Claw wrote:
So theres a pretty weird spoiler floating out there about SNoke and Rey in TLJ
Spoiler:
At the end, Snoke is revealed to be a body snatcher, and his current form isn't his real body. He was basically having his super evil plan to be to try to get a powerful force user and put his body in theirs. TLJ supposedly ends with Snoke possessing Rey before Luke can stop it
So it's kind of a modified version of Emperor Palpitine in the Dark Horse comics where he used cloned bodies of himself before finally getting killed for good?
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Sickle_Claw wrote:
So theres a pretty weird spoiler floating out there about SNoke and Rey in TLJ
Spoiler:
At the end, Snoke is revealed to be a body snatcher, and his current form isn't his real body. He was basically having his super evil plan to be to try to get a powerful force user and put his body in theirs. TLJ supposedly ends with Snoke possessing Rey before Luke can stop it
So it's kind of a modified version of Emperor Palpitine in the Dark Horse comics where he used cloned bodies of himself before finally getting killed for good?
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Subject: Re: The Star Wars thread Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:55 pm
Off to see TLJ tomorrow, already have my ticket, very excited!!!