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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:50 am

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I learned quite a bit about the Eisner era from the guy on the left.


This was honestly one of the best NC related videos I've seen in a while, and it has almost nothing to do with Doug Walker or The Haunted Mansion film. Razz

It's fascinating to learn just why the Eisner era started out so strong and then ended up practically eating its tail. Disney certainly bounced back, but at the expense of their traditional animation heritage. I hope we can get other in-depth analyses from different people on the other studios like Warner Bros, Sony and Universal and why their success streaks came and went as they did.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:40 am

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
I learned quite a bit about the Eisner era from the guy on the left.


This was honestly one of the best NC related videos I've seen in a while, and it has almost nothing to do with Doug Walker or The Haunted Mansion film. Razz

It's fascinating to learn just why the Eisner era started out so strong and then ended up practically eating its tail. Disney certainly bounced back, but at the expense of their traditional animation heritage. I hope we can get other in-depth analyses from different people on the other studios like Warner Bros, Sony and Universal and why their success streaks came and went as they did.

And Disney has learned from that very well. It's remarkable how they went from being near-death to being so dominant. I just hope we see their traditional animation come back again someday.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:40 pm

why is the Nostalgia Critic bald all of a sudden? (i haven't watched any of his videos in a long time)

on-topic, i finally saw the remake of Beauty and the Beast earlier this week. it was good, but the original was better. it's a solid re-interpretation as a direct remake (contrast Maleficent which had the whole perspective flip thing going on)
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:50 pm

So Mufasa and Scar definitely aren't related.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/168380/the-lion-king-scar-and-mufasa-not-brothers
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:56 pm

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So Mufasa and Scar definitely aren't related.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/168380/the-lion-king-scar-and-mufasa-not-brothers

Considering how Mufusa referred to Scar as brother in the movie, I find this hard to believe or a very pointless and dumb ret-con.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:52 pm

it'll probably end up being that one of them was adopted by the previous king--if that's the case, and if it's Mufasa rather than Scar, that would give more of a reason for his power-grab if he thinks he should be the rightful king because of blood. that or they're just going for a more realistic take on lion family dynamics in the remake with Scar as a rogue who shows up in Mufasa's territory and takes over that way
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:15 am

@Troyal1 wrote:
So Mufasa and Scar definitely aren't related.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/168380/the-lion-king-scar-and-mufasa-not-brothers

Oh this is so not going to go over well with the millions upon millions of Lion King fans out there...

And yes, I know they're basically incorporating earlier versions of The Lion King before it became what we know it today, but this is still likely to cause a bad stir in the Disney fan community by nixing that key story point.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:47 pm

Considering Mufasa literally calls Scar his brother in the movie, and both Scar and Mufasa make numerous references to being blood relatives, AND considering Disney spin off material has considered Mufasa and "Taka" brothers, I'm choosing to ignore this BS.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:57 pm

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Considering Mufasa literally calls Scar his brother in the movie, and both Scar and Mufasa make numerous references to being blood relatives, AND considering Disney spin off material has considered Mufasa and "Taka" brothers, I'm choosing to ignore this BS.

Maybe it's only counting the new movie?
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:59 pm

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@CT-1138 wrote:
Considering Mufasa literally calls Scar his brother in the movie, and both Scar and Mufasa make numerous references to being blood relatives, AND considering Disney spin off material has considered Mufasa and "Taka" brothers, I'm choosing to ignore this BS.

Maybe it's only counting the new movie?
That would be far more acceptable, but I swear they were discussing the original in this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:14 pm

@CT-1138 wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
@CT-1138 wrote:
Considering Mufasa literally calls Scar his brother in the movie, and both Scar and Mufasa make numerous references to being blood relatives, AND considering Disney spin off material has considered Mufasa and "Taka" brothers, I'm choosing to ignore this BS.

Maybe it's only counting the new movie?
That would be far more acceptable, but I swear they were discussing the original in this.

I'm pretty sure they are talking about the original, too.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:01 pm

Why would you do that?
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:33 pm

@CT-1138 wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
@CT-1138 wrote:
Considering Mufasa literally calls Scar his brother in the movie, and both Scar and Mufasa make numerous references to being blood relatives, AND considering Disney spin off material has considered Mufasa and "Taka" brothers, I'm choosing to ignore this BS.

Maybe it's only counting the new movie?
That would be far more acceptable, but I swear they were discussing the original in this.

Yeah they are.

Shrugs lol. I mean it's really stupid but it's coming from their mouths... why can't they leave anything sacred anymore? I mean to the fans of the original they will always be related no matter what anyone says.

They should have done that for the new movie if they wanted a twist.

Edit: this is another reason why I find canon and retcons to be silly anyway. I mean if the director won't even respect the canon then what's the point of us acknowledging it?

If anything can be changed at anytime no matter how important... I mean sorry to go on a tangent but it's just so silly. They were clearly brothers in the movie. The whole point was that he betrayed his brother, not just some random lion he was friends with is it not?
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