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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:45 am


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:50 pm

I really don't understand the rationale of a live action Winnie The Pooh movie, especially one that basically lifts the plot from Hook rather blatantly and without shame. Of all the Disney movies that do lend themselves to a cinematic live action experience, like The Black Cauldron, Peter Pan, Aladdin and Mulan, a film about one of Disney's most distinctly animated characters that skews more towards kids does not strike me as something that would look or feel right in live action.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:24 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:55 pm

Original Pirates of the Caribbean star returns for latest sequel
http://moviehole.net/2016111485original-pirates-caribbean-star-returns-latest-sequel

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Seemingly needing a payday, Keira Knightley is reportedly returning for the next “Pirates of the Caribbean” movie.

As previously reported, her franchise screen-squeeze Orlando Bloom is also returning for Disney’s “Pirates of the Caribbean : Dead Men Tell No Tales”.

The catch? Knightley’s Elizabeth Swann won’t appear until a post-credits scene – setting up her appearance in the already greenlit sixth “Pirates” film. Bloom’s Will Turner, however, will have a more substantial presence in this film.

Joining Johnny Depp in the Aussie-shot tentpole, out May 26, are Kevin McNally, Stephen Graham, Kaya Scodelario, Brenton Thwaites, Golshifteh Farahani and Paul McCartney.Joachim Rønning and Espen Sandberg direct.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:28 pm

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Original Pirates of the Caribbean star returns for latest sequel
http://moviehole.net/2016111485original-pirates-caribbean-star-returns-latest-sequel

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Seemingly needing a payday, Keira Knightley is reportedly returning for the next “Pirates of the Caribbean” movie.

As previously reported, her franchise screen-squeeze Orlando Bloom is also returning for Disney’s “Pirates of the Caribbean : Dead Men Tell No Tales”.

The catch? Knightley’s Elizabeth Swann won’t appear until a post-credits scene – setting up her appearance in the already greenlit sixth “Pirates” film. Bloom’s Will Turner, however, will have a more substantial presence in this film.

Joining Johnny Depp in the Aussie-shot tentpole, out May 26, are Kevin McNally, Stephen Graham, Kaya Scodelario, Brenton Thwaites, Golshifteh Farahani and Paul McCartney.Joachim Rønning and Espen Sandberg direct.

The fifth movie hasn't even been out yet, and a 6th movie has already been greenlit?! I get that Disney is back in 'golden age' mode again and that they can afford some movies not doing well, but even so, this seems slightly reckless.

Scarlett Johansson wants to be a Disney princess.

Even though she said that she's wanted to do this for about 20 years, I can't help but wonder if this is Plan B in case we never get a Black Widow movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:52 am

In addition to Will Smith, we also have Tom Hanks being courted for a live action Disney remake.... and one I've not been on board with for any length of time.

Tom Hanks being offered a villain role in live-action Dumbo
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:58 pm

I can see Tom Hanks as a villain, but I do with a lot of difficulty. Needless to say, I really don't think a Dumbo movie is the best choice for him to a villain. I just don't see him working well in that role in that movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:41 pm

yeah, Dumbo is really one of those no-antagonist stories. that said, if Hanks is cast as a villain in a Dumbo remake, i'd imagine he'll be the circus ringleader in order to draw attention to animal cruelty in circuses since our perception of them has changed dramatically since the early '40s
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:44 pm

I didn't know people care so much about whether or not something is going to work in Dumbo remake/reboot.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:20 am

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I didn't know people care so much about whether or not something is going to work in Dumbo remake/reboot.

Considering it's live action.....

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:27 am

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I didn't know people care so much about whether or not something is going to work in Dumbo remake/reboot.

Considering it's live action.....

I guess the only reason why people would want to see it is because they want to see a Dumbo movie without any debatable form of racism (the crows) that the first movie had.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:13 pm

personally, i consider it really unfair to call Dumbo racist 'cuz the crows. first off, values dissonance. secondly, the crows may have been pastiches of African-Americans (to the point that their leader is named Jim Crow) but they were good guys--they helped Dumbo! this isn't Birth of a Nation we're talkin' about, here!
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:22 pm

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personally, i consider it really unfair to call Dumbo racist 'cuz the crows. first off, values dissonance. secondly, the crows may have been pastiches of African-Americans (to the point that their leader is named Jim Crow) but they were good guys--they helped Dumbo! this isn't Birth of a Nation we're talkin' about, here!

Exactly this!!

Every time someone who claims to know better calls Dumbo out on account of the crows' "racism", I always remind them that they're the ones who actually helped Dumbo to learn to fly, and before that they apologized to Dumbo and Timothy for their earlier teasing, and were the first group of characters to do so in the movie. But now, I suspect Disney thinks they can write out the crows and replace them with... I don't know, maybe a sympathetic human family who befriends the little elephant. Perhaps that is where Will Smith's character and his yet un-cast family come in.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:52 pm

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personally, i consider it really unfair to call Dumbo racist 'cuz the crows. first off, values dissonance. secondly, the crows may have been pastiches of African-Americans (to the point that their leader is named Jim Crow) but they were good guys--they helped Dumbo! this isn't Birth of a Nation we're talkin' about, here!

Exactly this!!

Every time someone who claims to know better calls Dumbo out on account of the crows' "racism", I always remind them that they're the ones who actually helped Dumbo to learn to fly, and before that they apologized to Dumbo and Timothy for their earlier teasing, and were the first group of characters to do so in the movie. But now, I suspect Disney thinks they can write out the crows and replace them with... I don't know, maybe a sympathetic human family who befriends the little elephant. Perhaps that is where Will Smith's character and his yet un-cast family come in.

I never thought of those things before. To be fair, even though I saw Dumbo last year, it didn't really click with me. I guess I was never a big fan of the movie I was a kid.

There is a petition to reboot the 1990's "Dinosaurs" TV show.

I was never a fan of this when I was growing up in the 90's. I only saw a few episodes and when I finally did. I was so into Jurassic Park, dinosaur books, and was starting to get into Godzilla that I never really felt anything with this show. TBH, that's part of the reason why I wasn't a big fan of the original 'Land Before Time' movie. That and the VHS tape it was recorded on was messed up.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:46 pm

yeah, i never got the "possible" racist connection with the crows, either--it had to be pointed out to me, presumably (i can't remember who) by someone who already had an agenda against Disney to begin with. what really pisses me off about it is people pointing to Dumbo like it's indicative of the entire history of Disney. yes, they've had their fair share of controversial moments, including through to our lifetimes (one word: Frollo) but it's not their modus operandi and to say that something from fuckin' 1941 is indicative of Disney as a whole today--or even at any other time in its history, for that matter--is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick

and Rhedo, you should definitely give the original Dinosaurs a chance if you get the opportunity to do so--it's really quite good, and alot of the topical humor and messages in it still hold up today
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:06 pm

I've never even heard of that Dinosaurs TV show. But then again the chances of catching it on TV in 90's here was pretty non existent, and afterwards I haven't been particularly interested.

Even Dino Riders I only saw by miracle when someone had rare dubbed VHS of it. That series had amazing pilot and all the other episodes were crap. But it was all just to try to sell you toys so whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:54 pm

like i said, you should check it out if you get the chance. it was made by Jim Henson's team, the same people who made the Muppets (Henson himself was working on it, but he passed away just before it aired and the first episode is dedicated to him)
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:50 pm

I'm open to the idea of a Zootopia sequel, but I have to wonder what direction they will take (if indeed it can get much darker) and whether we will see other groups of animals like birds and reptiles, maybe even apes and monkeys, since they were intentionally omitted from the film.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:19 pm

Dinosaurs was on ABC and it was on friday nights if I remember correctly.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:22 pm

Zootopia 2 being confirmed (along with rumors of sequels for Frozen and Wreck-It Ralph that i've heard) also has interesting implications depending on how they handle it. after Rescuers Down Under, their first sequel movie, bombed at the box office there was basically an executive decision to not spend more money than needed on sequels in order to turn a profit even if it did poorly, which is where all those cut-rate direct-to-video sequels which look more like TV cartoons came from, and then they stopped making them entirely iirc. this could very well be a sign of Disney trying out theatrical sequels again.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:43 pm

Wreck It Ralph 2 was confirmed a few months ago

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:54 pm

didn't know that Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:01 pm

Well this is awkward Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:58 pm

Wanna get away?

Southwest is offering low fares to leave this thread and go to a less awkward one one-way for one low rate.


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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:34 am

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Well this is awkward Razz

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holy sh*t, that is embarassing XDDDDDD i'd completely forgotten about that! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:46 pm

finally saw Finding Dory just the other day. it was on Netflix. i've also noticed that Zootopia, the Jungle Book remake, and Captain America: Civil War were added relatively recently with a pretty quick turnaround to when they were released theatrically, so i wonder if this is a sign of a new pattern for Disney (and Disney-affiliated) movies being put on Netflix?
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:56 pm

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Will Smith won't be in the Dumbo reboot.

At this point it's hard to tell if he's dodged a bullet or missed a hit, but personally I don't think Will would have translated well to a 1940s period setting, never mind tone back his attitude to that of a black American person living during the height of American race segregation. If there is an important black father character in the film that needs a recognizable name, I would probably nominate Denzel Washington for a part like that, as he is of the right age and has the acting chops to blend into that setting.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:19 pm

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Will Smith won't be in the Dumbo reboot.

At this point it's hard to tell if he's dodged a bullet or missed a hit, but personally I don't think Will would have translated well to a 1940s period setting, never mind tone back his attitude to that of a black American person living during the height of American race segregation. If there is an important black father character in the film that needs a recognizable name, I would probably nominate Denzel Washington for a part like that, as he is of the right age and has the acting chops to blend into that setting.

I agree. Denzel Washington is a better part for that. That or Dwayne Johnson, aka The Rock.

Also, Mary Poppins 2 has begun to get filmed.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:55 pm

As for the Mary Poppins Returns casting, I am still really anxious for this thing eventually coming; most people would not be in favour of a sequel to a nigh perfect family classic... at least before the trailer comes out. If given the choice, I'd rather there was no Mary Poppins sequel being made, and so long after the original as well.

However, there have been three noteworthy films set in the Wizard of Oz universe; Return to Oz plays out as a sequel to the original L. Frank Baum book from Disney but is pretty damn dark, Oz: The Great and Powerful which is probably more of a prequel to the Victor Fleming classic and a set-up to the events in that film, and finally Wicked another Wizard of Oz prequel that is probably the best received of the bunch, certainly the one with the largest pop culture impact. What's my point to all this? There have been many new Oz related properties, and one belated sequel to Mary Poppins won't take anything away from the original if it's bad.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:43 pm

Both Disney and You Tube cut ties with PewDiePew due to his anti-Semitic jokes that featured Nazi imagery.

You know, what a bonehead. He should have known better beforehand and if he didn't then he deserved this for being this dumb.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:32 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:21 pm

Donald Glover cast as Simba and James Earl Jones as Mufasa

Well, they weren't going to top the original animated Mufasa under any circumstances, so it's nice to see them own up to this ahead of time. And kudos to Jones for being able to reprise both of his iconic roles well into his 80s. Sadly, with his age being what it is, I do wonder how strong his voice will be for when Mufasa has to be threatening, angry or shouting. Donald Glover as Simba I have no problems with. Now they just need to cast Scar, and I really, really hope that Charles Dance gets the part; after playing Tywin Lannister with great panache, a role like Scar would fit him like a glove!
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:34 pm

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Donald Glover cast as Simba and James Earl Jones as Mufasa

Well, they weren't going to top the original animated Mufasa under any circumstances, so it's nice to see them own up to this ahead of time. And kudos to Jones for being able to reprise both of his iconic roles well into his 80s. Sadly, with his age being what it is, I do wonder how strong his voice will be for when Mufasa has to be threatening, angry or shouting. Donald Glover as Simba I have no problems with. Now they just need to cast Scar, and I really, really hope that Charles Dance gets the part; after playing Tywin Lannister with great panache, a role like Scar would fit him like a glove!

I hope that Jeremy Irons gets to replay his role as Scar. He made that villain come to life and made him evil in a way that I've never saw in a Disney villain before in my childhood. Even today, his voice as Scar is scary.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:24 pm

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Lindsay Lohan Is Campaigning to Play Ariel in Disney’s Live-Action Remake of The Little Mermaid

Someone tell her to please stop....

I know that she wants to revive her career, but it's just too soon for her to be in a major Disney role. Maybe as a supporting role, but that's about it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:11 am

Sad thing is, twenty years ago Linsday Lohan had a head full of natural red hair; not too far off the mark when it came to playing Ariel in live action. But she will never appear in this current trend of live action Disney remakes. Had she had made less questionable choices with regards to the sorts of films she starred in or the people she associated with, her career would not have gone to sh*t.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:05 pm

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Sad thing is, twenty years ago Linsday Lohan had a head full of natural red hair; not too far off the mark when it came to playing Ariel in live action. But she will never appear in this current trend of live action Disney remakes. Had she had made less questionable choices with regards to the sorts of films she starred in or the people she associated with, her career would not have gone to sh*t.

I also don't feel like she's got the body for it anymore. And I'm not body shaming, I'm a pretty large guy so I have no room to talk, but seeing her in pictures at ups and downs, I think her previous problems have left some negative effects they wouldn't take the time to cover in CGI or make-up, and just go for a casting with a more natural body.

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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:19 pm

Angelina Jolie wants a Maleficent 2...

Yeah, no thanks Jolie. One bone-headed movie that turns Maleficent into a soppy rabbit of an antihero was enough. Unless it's to be a straight up remake of Sleeping Beauty and you're going to do it properly this time, then flush this sh*t.
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PostSubject: Re: The Overall Disney Thread   Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:39 pm

BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Angelina Jolie wants a Maleficent 2...

Yeah, no thanks Jolie. One bone-headed movie that turns Maleficent into a soppy rabbit of an antihero was enough. Unless it's to be a straight up remake of Sleeping Beauty and you're going to do it properly this time, then flush this sh*t.

It really was a bit much seeing Maleficent as a dark hero/misguided anti-hero. The thing is, I thought she actually acted quite well, but in the wrong way. I'm not against giving villains an interesting background as long as it's done well, but I have to say that it was not done well.
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