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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:59 pm

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So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.

Good stuff imho.

Seth McFarlane is a die-hard Star Trek fan, so you know he didn't want to screw it up. He even wanted to direct a Star Trek movie. I'm happy you like it. I'm not a big fan of Seth since much of his stuff is just needlessly cruel and nihilistic to me. It's to the point where some of his stuff is mean-spirited for the sake of it. But that's just me.

In any case, many Star Trek fans are more excited for this then they are for Star Trek: Discovery.

Normally I'd agree, but like I said earlier, this certainly didn't hit me as mean spirited. It's apparent that he has massive respect for the source material when you watch The Orville. It's not at dark or as meta as one would think it would be either. Sure, there are a few meta jabs, but basically, it's a comedic Star Trek series.

Discovery just seems way too different and up its own ass for me. I'll check it out regardless, but I don't have high hopes.

I'm in a FB movie group called Midnight's Edge, which was founded on the trainwreck known as Fant4stic, and they've covered Discovery quite a bit. It's more of a mess then you think.







Worse yet, the show will take a cheap shot at Trump supporters. It looks like CBS is going for the SJW crowd like Sony did with GB2016. And it won't work. Sorry, but if they think they can pander to Millennials like this, they're wrong because at the same time, they are alienating the Millennials that ARE Star Trek fans that saw ST episodes during the 1980's, 1990's, and the early-mid 2000's. And let's not forget about how they're alienating their main audience as well.

The sad part? CBS is now trying to block early reviews of Star Trek Discovery! I think this proves the new series is a train wreck.

https://twitter.com/LRM_Exclusive/status/908488162950778880

This thing is turning into a weird mix between Star Trek, Fant4stic, and GB2016. It's not going to end very well.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:53 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:56 pm

Here's the recent news about Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm

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Here's the recent news about Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville.



Thought it was a shitty move by CBS to put their new show as bait to get people to sign up for their streaming service. Also the entire show isn't even premiering at once its being split into two parts, which will release one part one month, the other part the other. This to try to get at least 20 bucks each from each subscriber since they will have to pay for at least 2 months just tow watch the show.

Also I read in the latest entertainment weekly. The captain isn't the 'main character' of Discovery! It's the first officer. (That lady in all the promos who was the only human to go to Vulcan academy or some thing)

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm

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Here's the recent news about Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville.



Thought it was a shitty move by CBS to put their new show as bait to get people to sign up for their streaming service. Also the entire show isn't even premiering at once its being split into two parts, which will release one part one month, the other part the other. This to try to get at least 20 bucks each from each subscriber since they will have to pay for at least 2 months just tow watch the show.

Also I read in the latest entertainment weekly. The captain isn't the 'main character' of Discovery! It's the first officer. (That lady in all the promos who was the only human to go to Vulcan academy or some thing)

It makes you wonder what CBS will do once this crashes and burns and if they have any backup plans.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:32 am

"The Man in the High Castle" has been occupying my time recently. Highly recommend.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:06 am

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Also I read in the latest entertainment weekly. The captain isn't the 'main character' of Discovery! It's the first officer. (That lady in all the promos who was the only human to go to Vulcan academy or some thing)

Yeah, Sonequa Martin. She was a mainstay on The Walking Dead for a few years.

If her performance/character here is anything like what she did on TWD, we're in for a VERY boring main character. I mean, she's a decent enough actress, but from what I've seen she's completely and utterly charisma-less.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:29 pm

The Emmys hit a new low last Sunday. That and the key demo ratings was the worst.

Translation: Millennials are starting to get sick of the Trump bashing as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:42 pm

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The Emmys hit a new low last Sunday. That and the key demo ratings was the worst.

Translation: Millennials are starting to get sick of the Trump bashing as well.

Also I loved how everyone suddenly turned on spicer the day after the show five minutes after they had publicly 'accepted' him.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:49 pm

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The Emmys hit a new low last Sunday. That and the key demo ratings was the worst.

Translation: Millennials are starting to get sick of the Trump bashing as well.

Also I loved how everyone suddenly turned on spicer the day after the show five minutes after they had publicly 'accepted' him.

These people are going to give Trump a second term and they don't even know it.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:30 am

So just finished pt 1 and 2 of the Orville pilot. I really liked it.... the interactions between the characters are good. And honestly, havent seen a Captain/First Officer interaction like this in a while on Trek.

(Still rooting for them to get together by the end lol) They are doing a pretty decent job with the side characters trying to make them likable I think its kind of working.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:53 am

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So just finished pt 1 and 2 of the Orville pilot. I really liked it.... the interactions between the characters are good. And honestly, havent seen a Captain/First Officer interaction like this in a while on Trek.

(Still rooting for them to get together by the end lol) They are doing a pretty decent job with the side characters trying to make them likable I think its kind of working.

I really dig The Orville, although I'll admit I enjoyed the pilot more than the second episode. I'm hoping that as time goes on they'll move further away from pop culture references. They seem kind of out of place to me :/
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:09 pm

Star Trek: Discovery will have some of the characters drop the F word.

What demographic is this show aiming for? Did CBS even know what it originally was when making this show? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:35 pm

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The move from Sunday to Thursday caused the ratings of 'The Orville' to basically implode.

It was a really stupid move. At least wait for the show to establish itself before moving it to late Thursday night ffs.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:04 pm

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The move from Sunday to Thursday caused the ratings of 'The Orville' to basically implode.

It was a really stupid move. At least wait for the show to establish itself before moving it to late Thursday night ffs.

agreed. I think the network is dumb to do this move, the ratings fell after they moved it. This show is actually looking to have a lot of potential and I want to see where these characters go.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:02 pm

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Star Trek: Discovery hasn't even aired yet, and it's already got renewed for a second season.

Meanwhile the Orville probably won't because the network sabotaged it already. Ugh.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:48 pm

So on one the Facebook groups I'm on, people, especially Star Trek fans just HATE Star Trek: Discovery.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:04 pm

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So on one the Facebook groups I'm on, people, especially Star Trek fans just HATE Star Trek: Discovery.

I saw it was on CBS when I was scrolling tv channels. So its on for DISH customers at the least, the premiere I'm guessing? I didnt watch it but wondering if anyone watched the premiere.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:43 am

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So on one the Facebook groups I'm on, people, especially Star Trek fans just HATE Star Trek: Discovery.

I saw it was on CBS when I was scrolling tv channels. So its on for DISH customers at the least, the premiere I'm guessing? I didnt watch it but wondering if anyone watched the premiere.

I was going to watch it, but fell asleep 20 minutes into the first episode.

Was not impressed with the little bit I saw.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:36 pm

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So on one the Facebook groups I'm on, people, especially Star Trek fans just HATE Star Trek: Discovery.

I saw it was on CBS when I was scrolling tv channels. So its on for DISH customers at the least, the premiere I'm guessing? I didnt watch it but wondering if anyone watched the premiere.

I was going to watch it, but fell asleep 20 minutes into the first episode.

Was not impressed with the little bit I saw.

Star Trek Discovery leads to record sign ups for the streaming service.

so their gamble worked.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:21 pm

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Prepare for a Rugrats reboot.

Star Trek: Discovery is already getting pirated a lot.

A rugrats reboot? Wow. Now I feel old because I remember when they tried spinning it off with 'All grown up' and that not working.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:40 pm

Finally watched the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discover in their entirety. They were actually pretty decent. Very un-Treky, very dark, but decent in their own way. I'll keep watching for now.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:57 pm

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Finally watched the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discover in their entirety. They were actually pretty decent. Very un-Treky, very dark, but decent in their own way. I'll keep watching for now.

So far, from what I can tell, for every person who likes it 2 people hate it. Most of the Trekkies that are in the one FB group I'm in hate it or have little hope left for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:11 pm

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Finally watched the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discover in their entirety. They were actually pretty decent. Very un-Treky, very dark, but decent in their own way. I'll keep watching for now.

So far, from what I can tell, for every person who likes it 2 people hate it. Most of the Trekkies that are in the one FB group I'm in hate it or have little hope left for it.

Like I said, it's VERY un-Star-Treky. The tone, the dialogue, etc etc etc are all extremely different. Dark, humorless, and just downright depressing at times.

You almost have to watch it as a standalone entity rather than a Star Trek series. But, for what it's worth, I find it intriguing, which is more than I can say about a lot of shows. The acting is good, the graphics are great, and the Klingons (for all of their faults in this series) aren't just one dimensional bad guys.

It's enough to keep my interest for now.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:27 pm

Here's the Midnight's Edge pilot review/roundtable talk about Discovery.



All 3 of them didn't like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:04 pm

Why are we caring about what people on youtube and other forms of social media think about something again? lol.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:50 pm

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Why are we caring about what people on youtube and other forms of social media think about something again? lol.

Because some of us are on these groups. Not only that, but independent groups not owned by corporations are gaining in influence and power.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:06 pm

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All the SJW bull and the fact they made a series out of a novel dealing with monsters, and then mostly cut out the monsters was it's death sentence. I watched 3 episodes and it was boring. Not sad to see it go, but sad to see such potential wasted.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:33 am

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Spike Just Canceled Stephen King’s “The Mist” Series

All the SJW bull and the fact they made a series out of a novel dealing with monsters, and then mostly cut out the monsters was it's death sentence. I watched 3 episodes and it was boring. Not sad to see it go, but sad to see such potential wasted.

Yeah the thing at the end (not that anyone cares) where the girl finds out she was lusting after her half brother the entire series made me want to throw up. Bleh.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:52 pm

I watched one episode and hated it. Not sad to see it go.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:09 pm

Orville is destined to be renewed and moved to a new time slot that does NOT involve Thursday Night Football.

Fox will give everything McFarlane a second, third, fourth and fifth chance to not have another Family Guy blunder.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:11 am

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Orville is destined to be renewed and moved to a new time slot that does NOT involve Thursday Night Football.

Fox will give everything McFarlane a second, third, fourth and fifth chance to not have another Family Guy blunder.

I would very much like to see what a second season of the Orville looks like as these characters are allowed to grow and develop.

Anyone currently watching 'Ghosted'? It starts Craig Robinson and Adam Scott. Its pretty funny, like a half hour x-files if it were a comedy. Im excited to see where it could go. If you subscribe to Hulu it should be on there, the pilot at least.

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:00 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:07 pm

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“The Walking Dead” and “Fear the Walking Dead” WILL Soon Collide!

Eww. I know TWD is inconsistent as hell, and the 7th season was pretty poor, but still...Just no.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:19 pm

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“The Walking Dead” and “Fear the Walking Dead” WILL Soon Collide!



Worlds collide it will blow up in their face.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:43 pm

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“The Walking Dead” and “Fear the Walking Dead” WILL Soon Collide!



Worlds collide it will blow up in their face.

From what I understand it is going to be on Fear, as a cameo on walking dead will spoil who dies in fear. Anyway, I think they are gonna troll everyone to force them to watch Fear by having this be Negans backstory on FEAR

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:18 am

Gillian Anderson Says She’s Done with “The X-Files”, FOX Responds…
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Talk Television   Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:19 pm

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Gillian Anderson Says She’s Done with “The X-Files”, FOX Responds…
http://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3463626/gillian-anderson-says-shes-done-x-files-fox-responds/

I have a feeling this will be a 'be careful what you wish for, you just might get it' moment and that Scully will be abducted by aliens.
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