Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu May 25, 2017 6:17 am
It's here! Real goosebumps!
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:46 pm
So in the new trailer someone just pointed this out to me!
He's huge!!!
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:16 pm
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of fans with more.... conservative leanings were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:22 pm
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of (older, right-wing) "fans" were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
Besides, even if there was a minority in the show, people would be screaming bloody murder if he got killed.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:25 pm
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of fans with more.... conservative leanings were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:31 pm
Tyrant Lizard wrote:
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of fans with more.... conservative leanings were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
cough...
WINNER! *Slot machine pours out lots of gold coins*
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:35 pm
Pretty much. So yeah, I really have to wonder if he really knows anything about either series?
Again, its that combination of arrogance and ignorance that really gets my goat.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:25 pm
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Pretty much. So yeah, I really have to wonder if he really knows anything about either series?
Again, its that combination of arrogance and ignorance that really gets my goat.
What about Grey worm? Missandei? Obreyn Martell? Sand snakes?
Might not all be black but they certainly aren't white, and they are certainly more than "background cameos" of people on the streets. There was even an episode in the show that was very anti slaver.
Sure it's true that the MAIN characters are white but ultimately it sounds like John has never watched the fucking show.
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:10 am
Wow, hard to believe that someone who works in the entertainment industry like Boyega say something like that, makes me wonder if he has watched the entire series.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:50 pm
What's everyone thinking of this season so far? I have my issues with it because I know what's happening. But I'm enjoying it.
Also since season 8 scripts are going out I might have legitimately read a real synopsis of the ending. If it's real all I can say is ... DAMN..
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:01 pm
Troyal1 wrote:
Also since season 8 scripts are going out I might have legitimately read a real synopsis of the ending. If it's real all I can say is ... DAMN..
Do you still have that synopsis somewhere? If so, can you send me a pm?
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:35 am