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PostSubject: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:30 pm

In the general thread for the LoD RPG here some wanted to try to "mix things up" a bit, with the idea of instead of the RPG taking place on a post-JP3 Isla Sorna, it would take place on a post-JW Isla Nublar instead. Someone said to start a poll to let the users decide and long story short...here we are.

So, what do you want LoD to be about? An RPG set on Isla Sorna years after Jurassic Park 3 or an RPG set on Isla Nublar after the events of Jurassic World? I personally after hearing the new idea want to go for it, but I will let the users decide!

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:31 pm

There's pros and cons in both.

A post JW Nublar would be refreshing and new, but would be more limiting in species and space.

Sorna is larger and previves more space and species, but is pretty much more of the same old same old.

Can't I ask for both? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:42 pm

Man this is really close.

The forums have a lot of past LTLers who want to bring their Isla Sorna characters back (speaking off my ass here, maybe they don't Razz ) . There is so much history there. But it will be so confusing and offputting for newcomers. JW is more fresh in mind for most people here, and some people are willing to let go of the past and start fresh and new, start writing history again.

This entire site is rising from the ashed of JPL, but also, we are leaving what was there behind, and starting anew here. I think it would be fitting for this website's RP to go to JW Isla Nublar, and leave the days of LTL behind to start fresh.

The limited amount of species and space I don't see as a huge issue, as the site's population isn't exactly high.

But if we do go ahead with JW...I will never forget about the old days of Isla Sorna, all the crazy characters, the convulsed plots and rich history. But I am excited to be able to create a new history, new characters, new plots, in a new land. So here is my vote. Isla Nublar is the way to go Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:46 pm

I vote Sorna. A park environment would be fun, but Sorna simply has more species. My only worry is less people may be willing to join if the game isn't set in JW...

EDIT: I'll play either way. I won't refuse to participate just because less people agree with me. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:51 pm

Well the idea is we can include more species supposedly on the Park Hologram map, and there is the Restricted Area, which carries species from the old Park...and if we go Nublar this would be in a JW/JP mixed island, with the ruins in the RA and what remains of JW in it's area. I love this idea, because it opens up, to quote one park manager, "a whole new frontier". And D4E, we can certainly HAVE two islands, but for now one island is good.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:53 pm

Can we get a Carnotaurus? Razz My only concern.
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:00 pm

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Can we get a Carnotaurus? Razz My only concern.

It can be worked in. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:16 pm

Really like the idea of post-nublar jW. I think if we properly see the restricted section that should be cool.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:23 pm

Since post-JW Nublar is winning, I need to ask... we're not going to follow through with the idea of it being ''human characters only'' right? Right?!??
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:26 pm

Looks like Nublar's gonna win...I better whip up another species roster. Keep in mind that Rexy will be off-limits only to RPG moderators, and will serve as a "culling character" like in LTL, where it would go and kill characters owned by players who broke the rules, as well as serve as a "force of nature" to spruce things up (for example, a herd of hadrosaurs stalked by Raptors will be broken up by Rexy).

And Oli, hell no. Human characters are a side point (like Jurassic Trackers), dinosaurs will always be the center point. It's just mostly a setting change.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:35 pm

I second Nublar.  It's essentially new territory.


For the returners, the characters could be perhaps grandfathered in.  Maybe humans transferred them to display them in the park and that's why they're there.


Humans could be the odd event every so often possibly though.
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:46 pm

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Looks like Nublar's gonna win...I better whip up another species roster. Keep in mind that Rexy will be off-limits only to RPG moderators, and will serve as a "culling character" like in LTL, where it would go and kill characters owned by players who broke the rules, as well as serve as a "force of nature" to spruce things up (for example, a herd of hadrosaurs stalked by Raptors will be broken up by Rexy).

And Oli, hell no. Human characters are a side point (like Jurassic Trackers), dinosaurs will always be the center point. It's just mostly a setting change.

What about using the JW website as a source for some dinosaurs the species list? I'm not saying restrict the species list to just that, but for the species that do happen to have been in JW, use the site's info for their sheets.

And thank Godzilla humans won't be obligatory...
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:00 pm

@Oliphaunt wrote:
@Richard Levine wrote:
Looks like Nublar's gonna win...I better whip up another species roster. Keep in mind that Rexy will be off-limits only to RPG moderators, and will serve as a "culling character" like in LTL, where it would go and kill characters owned by players who broke the rules, as well as serve as a "force of nature" to spruce things up (for example, a herd of hadrosaurs stalked by Raptors will be broken up by Rexy).

And Oli, hell no. Human characters are a side point (like Jurassic Trackers), dinosaurs will always be the center point. It's just mostly a setting change.

What about using the JW website as a source for some dinosaurs the species list? I'm not saying restrict the species list to just that, but for the species that do happen to have been in JW, use the site's info for their sheets.

And thank Godzilla humans won't be obligatory...

That's what I'm scouting out right now, for ideas.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:23 pm

Nublar!

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:40 pm

I admit, it would be exciting to explore Nublar in a RP. Hundreds of secrets to explore in the Restricted Zone... old park ruins, of course, and the holding pens and VC...

It'd be fun to control a dinosaur, roaming through the desolate remains...
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:47 am

Post-JW please. xP

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:08 am

@Richard Levine wrote:
Looks like Nublar's gonna win...I better whip up another species roster. Keep in mind that Rexy will be off-limits only to RPG moderators, and will serve as a "culling character" like in LTL, where it would go and kill characters owned by players who broke the rules, as well as serve as a "force of nature" to spruce things up (for example, a herd of hadrosaurs stalked by Raptors will be broken up by Rexy).
Will other Tyrannosaurus PCs still be allowed, though? Because Sue was the only PC of mine I could recover (though if not, I suppose I could try to recreate Snapper and Thrash from memory).
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:10 am

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@Richard Levine wrote:
Looks like Nublar's gonna win...I better whip up another species roster. Keep in mind that Rexy will be off-limits only to RPG moderators, and will serve as a "culling character" like in LTL, where it would go and kill characters owned by players who broke the rules, as well as serve as a "force of nature" to spruce things up (for example, a herd of hadrosaurs stalked by Raptors will be broken up by Rexy).
Will other Tyrannosaurus PCs still be allowed, though? Because Sue was the only PC of mine I could recover (though if not, I suppose I could try to recreate Snapper and Thrash from memory).

Well, I mean...maybe? There's that thing on the JW website that mentions other tyrannosaurs in the park, so it could be set up for maybe 2-3 other Rexes.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:32 am

DPFAR: Here is the current species list I have. Comments and feedback are appreciated.

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Ankylosaurus magniventris (Masrani)
Apatosaurus excelsus
Baryonyx walkeri (Masrani)
Dimorphodon macronyx
Edmontosaurus annectens
Gallimimus bullatus (Masrani)
Metriacanthosaurus shangyouensis
Microceratus gobiensis
Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis (Masrani)
Parasaurolophus walkeri (Masrani)
Pteranodon longiceps "masrani"
Stegosaurus stenops "gigas" (Masrani)
Suchomimus tenerensis (Masrani)
Triceratops horridus (Masrani)
Tyrannosaurus rex (Masrani)

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Compsognathus triassicus
Dilophosaurus wetherlii "venenifer" (InGen)
Herrerasaurus ischigualestensis (InGen)
Proceratosaurus bradelyi
Troodon pectinodon "ingen"
Velociraptor antirrhopus "nublarensis" (InGen)

Other:
Brachiosaurus brancai (InGen)
Tylosaurus proriger
?Stegoceratops horrinops?

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:42 am

Is Megaraptor no longer a considered species?

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:45 am

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Is Megaraptor no longer a considered species?

Well, seeing as how the polls are leading towards a post-JW centered RPG...I can include them as a bonus species with Stegoceratops and all them in "Other". Perhaps work them in as "another attraction Masrani had stored, based on their hunting abilities".

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:47 am

It would be fun if we could expand the species list a little beyond what is canon, imo. LTL did it, but I suppose that was mainly because the species list in the films were rather short...

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:52 am

I'm trying to find a balance between canon and just throwing in obscure species. Megaraptor works because it was discovered in 1998 (which gives enough time for Masrani Global to get DNA fragments/amber blood and clone it), but species discovered in recent times like 2015 will not work. And Isla Sorna worked because it had a lot more species to it than Nublar (two Raptor species, two Pteranodon species, etc). I will try to find more species that can be worked in, but dont worry about Megaraptor. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:56 am

Sweet. Razz

By the way, having both Baryonyx, Suchomimus and Spinosaurus could be a tad too much of the same thing, unless we could seperate the Sucho enough from either Bary or Spino behaviour wise to justify the three of them. It could very likely end up with one or two species barely played.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:58 am

@MissDNA wrote:
Sweet. Razz

By the way, having both Baryonyx, Suchomimus and Spinosaurus could be a tad too much of the same thing, unless we could seperate the Sucho enough from either Bary or Spino behaviour wise to justify the three of them. It could very likely end up with one or two species barely played.

Well, Spino wont be playable (unless you wanna control a scattered pile of bones Razz), but I think we can mix up the other two enough where they are distinguishable.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:57 pm

Quite happy with this list. A wide variety of species is very pleasing.

Ya'll done a great job. c:
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:08 pm

Now another thing we need to work out is a name. Obviously we cant keep "Life or Death: Isla Sorna". Got any suggestions? I like "The Forgotten World: Isla Nublar".

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:56 pm

@Richard Levine wrote:
DPFAR: Here is the current species list I have. Comments and feedback are appreciated.

Jurassic World:
Ankylosaurus magniventris (Masrani)
Apatosaurus excelsus
Baryonyx walkeri (Masrani)
Dimorphodon macronyx
Edmontosaurus annectens
Gallimimus bullatus (Masrani)
Metriacanthosaurus shangyouensis
Microceratus gobiensis
Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis (Masrani)
Parasaurolophus walkeri (Masrani)
Pteranodon longiceps "masrani"
Stegosaurus stenops "gigas" (Masrani)
Suchomimus tenerensis (Masrani)
Triceratops horridus (Masrani)
Tyrannosaurus rex (Masrani)

Restricted Area:
Compsognathus triassicus
Dilophosaurus wetherlii "venenifer" (InGen)
Herrerasaurus ischigualestensis (InGen)
Proceratosaurus bradelyi
Troodon pectinodon "ingen"
Velociraptor antirrhopus "nublarensis" (InGen)

Other:
Brachiosaurus brancai (InGen)
Tylosaurus proriger
?Stegoceratops horrinops?

Only major concern I have is Tyrannosaurus (and raptors to a point but not too bad); it definitely needs a limits or sorts, either with the number of characters that can be made or with the size of the Tyrannosaurus characters themselves. Having a dozen adult Tyrannosaurus running around wouldn't work too well IMO. Raptors needs a limit too, but nearly as hard as the Rexes.

Otherwise, that list looks good to me; given how most of them are Masrani bred, we can go a little more liberal with coloration, behaviors, and patterns than we would on Isla Sorna (not too much though).

@Richard Levine wrote:
Now another thing we need to work out is a name. Obviously we cant keep "Life or Death: Isla Sorna". Got any suggestions? I like "The Forgotten World: Isla Nublar".

I like that name too. Another possibility could be Paradise Lost[/Found]*: Jurassic World Isla Nublar. The name I think, if we do end up going post JW, should be put up for a vote as well.

*[anything in here is a suggestion, not apart of the actual name]
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:09 pm

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Only major concern I have is Tyrannosaurus (and raptors to a point but not too bad); it definitely needs a limits or sorts, either with the number of characters that can be made or with the size of the Tyrannosaurus characters themselves. Having a dozen adult Tyrannosaurus running around wouldn't work too well IMO. Raptors needs a limit too, but nearly as hard as the Rexes.

Otherwise, that list looks good to me; given how most of them are Masrani bred, we can go a little more liberal with coloration, behaviors, and patterns than we would on Isla Sorna (not too much though).

@Richard Levine wrote:
Now another thing we need to work out is a name. Obviously we cant keep "Life or Death: Isla Sorna". Got any suggestions? I like "The Forgotten World: Isla Nublar".

I like that name too. Another possibility could be Paradise Lost[/Found]*: Jurassic World Isla Nublar. The name I think, if we do end up going post JW, should be put up for a vote as well.

*[anything in here is a suggestion, not apart of the actual name]

I already have an idea for 2-3 (at the most four or even five) T. rexes maximum for the island, and the Raptors will definitely be capped off at some point.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:22 pm

How will we deal with male and female characters? Now I didn't really investigate into JW but I assumed all the dinos were female and they already fixed the frog DNA defect from JP. But male/female dinosaur interactions were a big part of LTL and I don't want to lose that. I am thinking we should take creative liberties for the sake of a more enjoyable, if less authentic, RP experience.
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:28 pm

Friendly reminder I will be ending the poll tomorrow, so get your votes in!

@Rex Prime wrote:
How will we deal with male and female characters? Now I didn't really investigate into JW but I assumed all the dinos were female and they already fixed the frog DNA defect from JP. But male/female dinosaur interactions were a big part of LTL and I don't want to lose that. I am thinking we should take creative liberties for the sake of a more enjoyable, if less authentic, RP experience.

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If we do have it post JW, the setting should be a good few years after the park is abandoned to allow life to recover and boost numbers of the animals people will want to play as. Supposedly there is only one rex and one/two surviving raptors on the island (unless there are others hidden on the island, maybe); too few to create a viable number of animals, especially considering raptors and rexes are among the most popular RP species.

Some ideas for how the island is repopulated:
Asexual reproduction - whereby a single female lays eggs without the involvement of a male. The resulting offspring are clones of the mother. This method of reproduction - parthenogenesis - has been observed in amphibians, komodo dragons and other lizards, which largely take up the DNA of the dinosaurs. If the dinosaurs from the original Jurassic Park could change gender owing to amphibian DNA, then surely this is also a possibility.

It is highly likely that live eggs of multiple species were stored in the abandoned laboratories for future use in the park. These hatched and created a first generation of "wild born" dinosaurs on the island.

Without human intervention, nature takes course and the dinosaurs begin to breed of their own accord.

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Along with that, another idea is that some of the JW population intermingles with the pre-existing JP population and inter-breed with them, in addition to your ideas (which I really like).

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:47 pm

Since the poll seems to be leaning towards post JW Isla Nublar (which is what I voted for), it looks like I'll be participating in this. It's been a while since I participated in an active RP, so I may be a little rusty (the only other one I participated in was Jurassic World: The Experience on JPL). If we're mostly playing dinosaurs, this will be a first for me, since I played in the other RPG as a human character. As for the name, I kind of like the first option, but I think starting another poll might be the best idea, to see what other people might think (even I have a hard time making up my mind, sometimes).Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:35 pm

Could make rexes some kind of reward based thing. Or the amount of rexes are determined by if anyone breeds. If they breed, someone can play the babies.
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:42 pm

Well I was thinking that people would have to apply (for example, write a submission entry about them using the character in an example post) as well as maybe writing out why they should get a T. rex.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:01 pm

Idea? We could bring in the JP3 Spino to Nublar as either an event or Mod character.
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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:02 pm

@Tarbtano wrote:
Idea? We could bring in the JP3 Spino to Nublar as either an event or Mod character.

We have Rexy as a mod character already, but I can think over that one. Could be interesting.

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PostSubject: Re: Decide the route of LOD!   Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:34 pm

The polls are over, and Nublar is the winner! Very Happy

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