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Lost Ceratosaurus
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| Subject: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:23 am | |
| Who's excited for this? I have to say I've been very excited for it ever since they revealed the title almost a year ago. This should be a lot of fun! What did you like about the first movie and what are you excited about and hoping to see in this one? Personally I'm excited about: -Another sci-fi disaster movie (as I'm both interested in space/aliens and like disaster movies) -The mother ship being that much bigger/better -Can't wait to see an "updated" Independence Day, 20 years after, especially since Emmerich has said he had to wait for technology to catch up to his vision for this film -Jeff Goldblum back of course (as well as many other actors from the first film) | |
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JPMalcolmDilo Embryo
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:14 am | |
| Im gonna watch cause I loved the 1st one and Jeff Goldblum is me favorite actor. The actual movie itself doesn't look spectacular, but it looks like a fun entertaining blockbuster. Also JEFF GOLDBLUM!?!?! | |
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Troyal1 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:36 pm | |
| Honestly I'm a bit worried. I think it looks cool but I'm a huge fan of the first movie. And while the first movie was corny and funny there were definitely some scenes in that movie that were sad, scary and it took itself very serious about the alien invasion. I'm worried this one will have too much humor and lack all the good serious elements.
Also will smith should be here. | |
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GwrChurchward Embryo
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:45 pm | |
| Not looking forward to this. | |
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Océane Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:19 pm | |
| I'll wait for DVD release. _______________ Formerly known as "Raptorlover0823." | |
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Lost Ceratosaurus
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:54 pm | |
| - Troyal1 wrote:
- Honestly I'm a bit worried. I think it looks cool but I'm a huge fan of the first movie. And while the first movie was corny and funny there were definitely some scenes in that movie that were sad, scary and it took itself very serious about the alien invasion. I'm worried this one will have too much humor and lack all the good serious elements.
Also will smith should be here. Too much humor? How? I've only watched the first trailer but it definitely seemed quite dark and serious in its tone and I remember people commenting on that on youtube, as far as I recall. | |
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Island Queen Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:03 pm | |
| I'm totally psyched for this! If it weren't for Independence Day, I would never have gotten into Jurassic Park (seriously). What did I like about the first one? Aliens, sci fi, and it was my first disaster movie, and since I was more into Jeff Goldblum, it doesn't bother me that Will Smith isn't in this one (most people went to it for the effects anyways, including myself). I'm just curious as to how big the mothership is in this one, since I thought the last one was big. _______________ stormy_lass from Jurassic Park Legacy | |
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Levine Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:08 pm | |
| I doubt that the ships are actually continent-sized, because if that's so then Earth is doomed, and no Trojan virus can save them this time. | |
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Lost Ceratosaurus
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:11 pm | |
| - Island Queen wrote:
- I'm totally psyched for this! If it weren't for Independence Day, I would never have gotten into Jurassic Park (seriously). What did I like about the first one? Aliens, sci fi, and it was my first disaster movie, and since I was more into Jeff Goldblum, it doesn't bother me that Will Smith isn't in this one (most people went to it for the effects anyways, including myself). I'm just curious as to how big the mothership is in this one, since I thought the last one was big.
It's supposed to be really really big Can't wait to see it. How did Independence Day get you into Jurassic Park? That's interesting. Also, Goldblum over Will Smith anyday. Ever since I first watched Jurassic Park as a kid I've thought the guy is awesome So yeah, doesn't bother me either. @Levine: I think I read somewhere it's supposed to be like the size of the Atlantic or something With its own gravity, lol. Should be interesting. EDIT: Island Queen, didn't notice until now you have the movie in your signature! Glad to see another fan on here. | |
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Island Queen Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:23 pm | |
| Because of Jeff Goldblum. I was a member of a sci fi kind of book club and I ordered the "making of" book (I should check my local used bookstore to see if they have one, since I no longer have it), and it mentioned some other movies that Goldblum was in including Jurassic Park. I guess it made me curious enough about it (or maybe it was the fact that they were making a sequel that triggered it, since The Lost World got released to theaters the following summer, which was the only other Jurassic Park movie I've seen in theaters besides Jurassic World) to actually want to see it, since before Jurassic Park, I never had an interest in dinosaurs before. P.S. In regards to the signature, when I saw your avvie, I thought I would put the signature in, since it's the proper size for this forum. _______________ stormy_lass from Jurassic Park Legacy | |
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Dead2009 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:07 pm | |
| If only those selfish directors would of added in Will Smith's talentless....I mean talented kid, he'd probably be in it as well. _______________ Last Movie Watched: Firestarter (2022). Last TV Show Watched: Archive 81 (S1:E7). Last Video Game Played: Blair Witch (XBO). | |
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Spinosaur4.4 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:46 pm | |
| I'm so excited, I hope the Aliens wins.
The mothership looks like it'll cover the entire Atlantic Ocean and has it's own gravity. _______________ "Chaos theory is a pseudoscience you asshole" - Headcanon line from Sickle_ClawFormer JPL member, Spinosaur4.4. | |
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Dead2009 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:01 pm | |
| The Independence Day sequel idea that was ultimately scrapped! - Quote :
- The “Independence Day” sequel we see on screens next week won’t be the same one Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin started writing in the early 2000s.
The filmmaking duo behind the original 1996 blockbuster had originally summoned up a yarn that tied into the events of 911 – it was ultimately poo-pooed.
“It was after 9/11 and Dean and I wanted to make the movie about peace, and it just didn’t work,” Emmerich said in this month’s Empire Magazine. “There’s still an element of that in the new one, but that version was only about that. We shoot aliens down accidentally and then at the end of the movie they land on the White House lawn and say ‘we come in peace’ and that was it. It was just too weak an idea and we didn’t really want to do it. It didn’t have an Independence Day feel. Only the alien ship was destroyed!”
Emmerich also spoke about the sequel’s lengthy gestation period and why it’s taken so long for “Independence Day : Resurgence” to come to fruition.
“I’d never planned to make a sequel — I always felt that Independence Day was a standalone film,” he said. “But over the years I realized how iconic the film had become for people and I was repeatedly asked by [20th Century] Fox to do it. What really did it was just how amazing film technology is these days and how restricted I felt in ‘95/’96 when I did the original one. But it’s not a traditional sequel.” _______________ Last Movie Watched: Firestarter (2022). Last TV Show Watched: Archive 81 (S1:E7). Last Video Game Played: Blair Witch (XBO). | |
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:13 pm | |
| That would have been interesting...to see the aliens really want peace and it be about human paranoia. _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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Levine Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:26 pm | |
| Eh, I think the only reason they went for peace was because of 9/11 (explosions and terrorism-esque stuff was very touchy in the days, weeks, months and even years after the attacks). If it didnt happen we probably would have gotten what we are getting now back then (explosions and attacks and stuff). | |
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Island Queen Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:43 pm | |
| I don't think I would have liked that as much, since it sounds more like Close Encounters than Independence Day. Apparently Emmerich and Devlin thought so too, since it says in the article that it didn't have an Independence Day feel, but I'm kind of curious as to which element was left in (I guess I'll find out soon enough, since I'm planning on going on opening night, which is something I haven't done since the second and third Pirates movies). _______________ stormy_lass from Jurassic Park Legacy | |
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Spinosaur4.4 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:27 am | |
| It's not weak plot. In fact, it's very possible in real life. Carl Sagan predicted if an advanced alien civilization comes into contact with us, then it'll be probably peacefull. _______________ "Chaos theory is a pseudoscience you asshole" - Headcanon line from Sickle_ClawFormer JPL member, Spinosaur4.4. | |
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TheDreamMaster Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:51 am | |
| - Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
- It's not weak plot. In fact, it's very possible in real life. Carl Sagan predicted if an advanced alien civilization comes into contact with us, then it'll be probably peacefull.
Unless they screwed up on their own planet and want a new one similar....unless someday we're the invading aliens. _______________ Make the Sayles JP IV script into an animated series! Admit it, you'd watch it. "We'll use the Force."- Finn "That's not how the Force works!"- Han Solo
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Lost Ceratosaurus
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:34 am | |
| I encourage everyone to go to Wikipedia and read the story on how this film was developed, how many years it took before they finally had an idea they went with. We waited for JW since 2001, they have been thinking about this movie since 1996! I think that bodes well for the final product, at least story-wise.
BTW, any guesses as to how this will do at the box-office? I suppose JW-like numbers are not likely? But then again, no one could have predicted just how massively successful JW would be either... | |
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TheDreamMaster Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:14 pm | |
| - Lost wrote:
- I encourage everyone to go to Wikipedia and read the story on how this film was developed, how many years it took before they finally had an idea they went with. We waited for JW since 2001, they have been thinking about this movie since 1996! I think that bodes well for the final product, at least story-wise.
BTW, any guesses as to how this will do at the box-office? I suppose JW-like numbers are not likely? But then again, no one could have predicted just how massively successful JW would be either... I was gonna say, JW wasn't projected for JW numbers, so I think anything is possible. I think based on the original, this will either do really well or really bad. I reason because it's a non-franchise(currently) sequel to a film loved 20 years ago, but I don't know how many have really been exposed to it in the last ten or so years. Sure it runs on TV from time to time, but it's not really had mass exposure since 1996/97. I really hope we see some alien variation though. Giant alien aside, I loved how the toys had the regular aliens, then blue commanders or something, then black sparkly Shock Trooper aliens. _______________ Make the Sayles JP IV script into an animated series! Admit it, you'd watch it. "We'll use the Force."- Finn "That's not how the Force works!"- Han Solo
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:26 pm | |
| Oh and supposedly IDR isn't screening for critics until after the movie is in theaters... _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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CT-1138 Jurassic Mainframe News Team
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:28 pm | |
| - TheDreamMaster wrote:
- Lost wrote:
- I encourage everyone to go to Wikipedia and read the story on how this film was developed, how many years it took before they finally had an idea they went with. We waited for JW since 2001, they have been thinking about this movie since 1996! I think that bodes well for the final product, at least story-wise.
BTW, any guesses as to how this will do at the box-office? I suppose JW-like numbers are not likely? But then again, no one could have predicted just how massively successful JW would be either... I was gonna say, JW wasn't projected for JW numbers, so I think anything is possible. I think based on the original, this will either do really well or really bad. I reason because it's a non-franchise(currently) sequel to a film loved 20 years ago, but I don't know how many have really been exposed to it in the last ten or so years. Sure it runs on TV from time to time, but it's not really had mass exposure since 1996/97.
I really hope we see some alien variation though. Giant alien aside, I loved how the toys had the regular aliens, then blue commanders or something, then black sparkly Shock Trooper aliens. Kenner was awesome if you wanted lots of variation in figures and toys. They did the same thing with their Aliens line, pulling out a bunch of different Alien-bred animals like the Scorpion Alien and the Bull alien. Or the various different Predators they produced. I think a lot of interesting and unique inspiration for these older '80s and '90s movies can come out of the old Kenner toy lines. _______________ SOMETHING HAS SURVIVED | |
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TheDreamMaster Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:58 pm | |
| - CT-1138 wrote:
- TheDreamMaster wrote:
- Lost wrote:
- I encourage everyone to go to Wikipedia and read the story on how this film was developed, how many years it took before they finally had an idea they went with. We waited for JW since 2001, they have been thinking about this movie since 1996! I think that bodes well for the final product, at least story-wise.
BTW, any guesses as to how this will do at the box-office? I suppose JW-like numbers are not likely? But then again, no one could have predicted just how massively successful JW would be either... I was gonna say, JW wasn't projected for JW numbers, so I think anything is possible. I think based on the original, this will either do really well or really bad. I reason because it's a non-franchise(currently) sequel to a film loved 20 years ago, but I don't know how many have really been exposed to it in the last ten or so years. Sure it runs on TV from time to time, but it's not really had mass exposure since 1996/97.
I really hope we see some alien variation though. Giant alien aside, I loved how the toys had the regular aliens, then blue commanders or something, then black sparkly Shock Trooper aliens. Kenner was awesome if you wanted lots of variation in figures and toys. They did the same thing with their Aliens line, pulling out a bunch of different Alien-bred animals like the Scorpion Alien and the Bull alien. Or the various different Predators they produced. I think a lot of interesting and unique inspiration for these older '80s and '90s movies can come out of the old Kenner toy lines. Remember that those Kenner ID4 figures also had cool little PC mini-games included. Sadly, my PC was crap back then and couldn't run them, so never knew what I was missing out on, but the idea was still fun. I remember those Aliens figures, in fact I have several. My favorite was the Mantis Alien, because it was big, and had scythe-like arms that I imagined could take guys down pretty easily. _______________ Make the Sayles JP IV script into an animated series! Admit it, you'd watch it. "We'll use the Force."- Finn "That's not how the Force works!"- Han Solo
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Dead2009 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:20 pm | |
| _______________ Last Movie Watched: Firestarter (2022). Last TV Show Watched: Archive 81 (S1:E7). Last Video Game Played: Blair Witch (XBO). | |
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TheDreamMaster Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:32 pm | |
| I'm off to see the film! I'll report back with a review soon! _______________ Make the Sayles JP IV script into an animated series! Admit it, you'd watch it. "We'll use the Force."- Finn "That's not how the Force works!"- Han Solo
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Lost Ceratosaurus
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:50 pm | |
| Have fun and let us know what you think! (without spoilers please! ) Loving all the hate from the critics btw, makes me wanna see it even more xD | |
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Aegyptiacus3 Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:54 pm | |
| I saw ID:R last night. It was solid fun. Big, dumb fun. There are a lot of plot holes and stupid moments but it is actually surprisingly hilarious too. _______________ "It's a... a high hide. A high hide, you know you go up and you hide high. Goes up to where the trees are, and uh... keeps the researchers out of harms way" - Eddie Carr "Actually it would put them at a very convenient biting height" - Dr. Ian Malcolm
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CT-1138 Jurassic Mainframe News Team
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:56 pm | |
| Good, that's exactly what I want out of this movie. Big, dumb fun in the vein of the the original. _______________ SOMETHING HAS SURVIVED | |
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:34 pm | |
| I hope to see this movie soon-ish as in this weekend maybe.. _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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TheDreamMaster Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:45 am | |
| So, my non-spoiler review. It was ok. It doesn't surpass the original for me. It oddly to me feel like the stakes are lower, even though they are technically much higher. There's also a certain thing I'm really not a fan of, but I'll put that in spoilers. - Spoiler:
I'm not going to go over the whole story, as I'll leave surprises for anyone who wants to see the film, but still wants some spoiler-y thoughts on it. I did like the movie, it was a fun ride and I enjoyed it well enough. The problem is, it sort of keeps some characters from the previous film just for them to be there, while it doesn't do enough to establish some of the new characters.
Liam Hemsworth's Jake is a decent main character, but he his archtype is basically the main character. We know he's brash and can be stupid, and he's dating the President's daughter, but otherwise that's about it. Jessie T. Usher as Dylan Hiller is a decent replacement for Will Smith, but he surprisingly isn't in the movie a ton, and is mostly a foil to Hemsworth. The other pilots are ok, ranging from under-developed to way too comedic.
Goldblum is still good, if a little too tongue-in-cheek this time. Pullman is pretty good, although he mostly comes off as crazy until he suddenly isn't. Judd Hirsch is good as David's father, but he isn't necessary to the film at all. Brett Spiner is.... well Okun is pretty much the same but there was kind of that less is more thing in the first film.
I will say this, although it's mostly in Area 51, and onboard the Harvester ship, there's some alien ground action I was extremely happy about. Even with the budget of the original film, we saw very little of the aliens. Here, we get to see them in all their exo-suit glory.
When the movie is good, it's really good. Sadly it has a lot of down time that isn't as interesting as the slower scenes in the original. There's also not a lot to the battle scenes. The main fighter attack sequence doesn't go on for very long, and afterwards it's a lot of set-up for the finale, which isn't reliant on fighter jets as most are destroyed in the initial attack. So my two main problems. 1) The Alien Queen. This is just such an overdone alien trope, and I really wanted something better. Stop the Queen, stop the aliens. And literally, when that Queen dies, the ship takes off. No real reason why it didn't just fall dormant like the original ships and aliens.
2) The OTHER Alien. So big spoilers here, but there's another alien in this film. It's big ball, and is some race that downloaded their beings into technology long ago and has been fighting the Harvester aliens. These beings also created a refuge planet for species attacked by the Harvesters to teach them to use new technology and weapons to fight. I know we're already in sci-fi territory here, but this just didn't work for me. And the cliffhanger this thing brings to the ending made me roll my eyes hard.
I know I'm going to come off as really negative in those spoilers, but I did enjoy it. It just didn't quite manage to reach the heights of the original, and honestly I don't know that I was expecting it to. It does feel like Independence Day though, and that's what matters. _______________ Make the Sayles JP IV script into an animated series! Admit it, you'd watch it. "We'll use the Force."- Finn "That's not how the Force works!"- Han Solo
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