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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:38 pm

Kong reveal

Also the last week many revelations about the movie that Brandon Davis confirmed he saw an early cut and mentioned no dinosaurs but many monsters fights. I hope at least we can see dinosaur inspired monsters like Godzilla, he is not a dinosaur but he resemble to a Dinosaur.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:45 pm

i seem to remember hearing that Gorosaurus from the Toho series was from Skull Island, so i'd bet we'll see him if no other dinosaurs. though i also seem to remember hearing that a triceratops-like animal will be appearing (though i haven't been keeping up with news on this one)
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:04 pm

I really like the look of the new Kong, he seems reminiscent of the original 1933 Kong - less a giant silverback gorilla like in the 2005 remake and more a unique species akin to a Gigantopithecus.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:55 pm

though frankly, Jackson's Kong is probably a closer fit to a real Gigantopithecus (that was even the intention, if World of Kong is anything to go by) based solely on his posture--as much as people suggest bigfoot is a gigantopithecine, i honestly doubt that they were bipedal like that. it is still a really cool design, though Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:51 pm

I especially like the second one with Kong looming over the Skull Island mountains, roaring down on the small squad of soldiers. Part of me is mixed on whether or not Kong is that big or that's just artistic liscence for the sake of marketing, but still awesome posters!

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:47 pm

Personally, I would have liked to see King Kong look like a cross between a giant sliverback gorilla and a Bigfoot/Gigantopithecus, but with that being said, I do like this design.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:01 am

Kong: Skull Island Trailer

I think it's fair to say that people have been quite divisive over the quality of this new trailer. I think there are a mix of great and bad elements in it. But definitely check it out if you're in teh least bit curious.

The Good

- King Kong himself looks magnificent, a truly inspiring combination of all the classic Kongs from the 1933 to the 2005 iterations, the fact he was walking upright reminded me very much of the 1976 Kong. Added to the fact that the way he's shot and framed throughout the trailer look incredible, especially when he's glaring at Samuel L Jackson through the fire and looking calmly upon Tom Hiddleston and Brie Larson.

- The new creatures; the subterranean reptillian monsters, the giant water buffalo, the giant spider and log-monster all look really cool and give the impression that the filmmakers have at least given Skull Island it's own unique ecosystem like the 1933 and 2005 films.

- We get a better idea of what's in store for us with regards to the human characters and the monsters that live on the island. It certainly looks very action heavy, but that could be fun as well.

The Bad

- The lack of living dinosaurs. Well, now we have definitive proof that Kong: Skull Island will not feature dinosaurs as the island's main inhabitants, despite being teased with a non-fossilized Triceratops skull, which is slightly disappointing to me.

- The jokes; it should be noted that having humour in your film is not a bad thing, but it's how its presented that's the problem. I can imagine that the majority of these jokes worked much better in the film itself and it's the trailer that's fudging things up.

- The first trailer was very moody and dark, but this new trailer seems content to showcase the action and humour without context, and as we've seen before trailers are prone to misinforming their audiences. This could end up backfiring in WB's faces.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:40 am

Here is the Trailer

I have to say Im impressed totally different from Godzilla 2014. I hope they will make the sequel like Skull Island. The SkullCrawlers maybe are the Dinosaur Killers and Kong specie killer. I think they came from a creature after Godzilla era.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:23 am

I just hope that the 'no dinosaurs' thing is a joke/trick. The 1976 version lacked dinosaurs too, and a lot of its bad reputation suffers because of that.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:06 pm

Kong: Skull Island will be PG-13.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:24 am

Unsuprising. That's sort of the Legendary standard.

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:32 am

I was poking around monster movies on IMDB when I stopped at the Kong: Skull Island page on the website, and I found out something. Specifically, Derek Connolly is not credited as a story writer or screenplay writer on this film, despite there being a bit of a hoopla when we heard that he was recruited to help re-write Kong: Skull Island back in 2015 when the project was still at Universal. This to me is a good thing, and perhaps the script that's been put on film is an improved version of those earlier Kong scripts, and any say Connolly might have had has been ignored.

I've gone on record to saying that he's not a good writer, and that he might have been a bad influence on Colin Trevorrow as a writer, who I still believe is more competent and talented than most people say he is. Obviously box office success can lead to opportunities, but it's interesting that he's not even listed as a "story" writer. He also wrote the screenplay for the upcoming family film from Paramount Pictures, 'Monster Trucks', which is not doing at all well with critics as of right now. I can't help but suspect that a bad script might have been to fault for that.

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:17 pm

Did anyone else see the Kong: Skull Island Tv spots?

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:43 pm

A new IMAX trailer for Kong: Skull Island has debuted, channeling the dark tone and mysterious spirit of Apocalypse Now, to fantastic effect I must say! This is definitely a must-by for me!

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ScreenRant also provided an article on the character profiles for the key players in the film, as well as some interesting comments about the extraordinary monsters on Skull Island. Jordan Vogt-Roberts even asserts that he anticipated comparisons to Jurassic World and deliberately avoided making the monsters look like dinosaurs, citing inspiration from the animated films of Hayao Miyazaki. While I am still a bit disappointed that dinosaurs don't feature in the film beyond a few skeletons, I can respect Vogt-Roberts for having the foresight to expect such comparisons and to the credit of the production team, the Skull Island monsters look pretty cool. There is no doubt that I'm still looking forward to the film!

Kong: Skull Island Human Character & Monster Descriptions
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:10 pm

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
A new IMAX trailer for Kong: Skull Island has debuted, channeling the dark tone and mysterious spirit of Apocalypse Now, to fantastic effect I must say! This is definitely a must-by for me!

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ScreenRant also provided an article on the character profiles for the key players in the film, as well as some interesting comments about the extraordinary monsters on Skull Island. Jordan Vogt-Roberts even asserts that he anticipated comparisons to Jurassic World and deliberately avoided making the monsters look like dinosaurs, citing inspiration from the animated films of Hayao Miyazaki. While I am still a bit disappointed that dinosaurs don't feature in the film beyond a few skeletons, I can respect Vogt-Roberts for having the foresight to expect such comparisons and to the credit of the production team, the Skull Island monsters look pretty cool. There is no doubt that I'm still looking forward to the film!

Kong: Skull Island Human Character & Monster Descriptions

Upon seeing the poster, I'm actually hoping that 'Gimme Shelter' by Rolling Stones is in this movie.

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:41 am

The animals/monsters on Skull island were inspired by those from Princess Mononoke.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:35 am

I decided to watch the other Kong movies the other day and I had a question.

Is this the Skull Crawler?
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:16 am

The first release of Henry Jackman's score for Kong: Skull Island, and it's an encouraging first taster. You can very easily imagine the helicopters leaving the aircraft carriers and flying straight through the fog and behold the sweeping mountains of Skull Island. It matches the size and grandeur of the Godzilla score very well, a mix of grand and epic brass and electronic music to give it it's own identity.

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:15 am

So far Kong: Skull Island has made $142.6 overall. $61 million here and $81.6 million internationally.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:58 pm

Kong: Skull Island was supposed to mock the 2005 Peter Jackson version of King Kong, but WB shot down that idea.

I still don't why people hate the 2005 remake. Yes, it's a little too long but other then that, I still don't get why people hate it.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:04 pm

Something about making that kind of harsh jab towards the 2005 film also feels like an indirect insult to the 1933 classic, which also featured an an ape in the size range of 25 to 30 feet. Jackson made it as a passion project and love letter to that original Kong, so when you take a dig at that you're also showing how little you apparently care for the film that inspired it (and by proxy Skull Island as well).
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:09 pm

I only saw it once when it came out but it was boring beyond belief, all the characters were lame or idiots and effects looked plastic like in headache inducing crappy video game. The only good thing was how darkly the natives were portrayed, but that's kind of given in today's environment and not surprising.

I stick to the 1933 one which is beyond amazing. Along with Wizard of Oz, It's a Wonderful Life, Casablanca and Metropolis it's up to my favorite 'oldies'.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:39 pm

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Kong: Skull Island was supposed to mock the 2005 Peter Jackson version of King Kong, but WB shot down that idea.

I still don't why people hate the 2005 remake. Yes, it's a little too long but other then that, I still don't get why people hate it.

I'm on the complete opposite spectrum. I think it's a masterpiece and one of the best adventure films ever made.

Yea he went a little overboard on some of the length, action scenes and CGI. But like the LOTR films it feels like a true epic. And I appreciate it so much more looking back on it. 

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:17 pm

I think when doing a remake/reboot, to justify it's existence one should make it as distinctly as different from the original as possible to the point where only really the core values are present, and yet still aim for it to be better. Like Scarface, or reimagined BSG.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:28 pm

Just got back from the theater. Kong is KING in every way imaginable. I really came away awed and amazed.

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:34 pm

I know the right time to upload this would have been a day or two after the film's release, but I felt compelled to share it nonetheless;
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:32 am

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I think when doing a remake/reboot, to justify it's existence one should make it as distinctly as different from the original as possible to the point where only really the core values are present, and yet still aim for it to be better. Like Scarface, or reimagined BSG.
Jackson's Kong was a passion project, as mentioned before. he didn't make it because Universal decided to throw money at him, he made it because he wanted to--it was the movie he'd always wanted to make, what made him decide to go into filmmaking in the first place. it's such an exact remake/reimagining that each part of it is actually exactly as long as in the '33 original if it were stretched out to 187 minutes

one of the things i love about Jackson's version (though it's only elaborated in The World of Kong companion book) is how they fleshed out Skull Island's ecosystem--they didn't just throw fossil species into the present-day without any explanation like alot of media does (contrast The Valley of Gwangi, for example, where fossil animals are just there), they took the fundamentals of the original and gave decently plausible reasons for why they're there and what they look like--it's not Tyrannosaurus that Kong fights, but a tyrannosaur descendant called Vastatosaurus
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:27 am

I'm sure Spielberg wanted to do it as well, after all he's about as big as fan as Jackson is, but instead he decided to adapt and integrate it into his TLW, hence the San Diego finale on top of what already happened at the island.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:46 pm

So far, Kong: Skull Island has made $260.7 million dollars. However, according to Box Office Mojo, Godzilla 2014 made $39 million dollars more in 10 days then Kong: Skull Island has. That and Godzilla cost $160 million to make while Kong cost $185 million. In other words, this movie is going to have a hard time to be profitable.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:55 pm

To my knowledge, the film hasn't been released in China and Japan, and those are the two markets that Legendary is really trying to tap into, more so than Europe and the United States. If Warcraft was any indication, that's probably where the bulk of their money could come from. If Skull Island is lucky enough to reach $600 Million worldwide, it's still not the blockbuster primer for King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong that they want. Truth is, at the end of the day, these monster movies are still very niche properties that modern audiences aren't that adjusted to, everyone knows about King Kong and Godzilla but their names alone don't have the heft of Jurassic Park.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:00 pm

also after seeing Kong, I would like Brie Larson in a Jurassic movie.

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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:50 pm

So far, Kong: Skull Island has mode slightly over $477 million dollars.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:24 pm

I think it's fair to say now that they'll reach $500 million worldwide in a couple of weeks, enough to break even for sure, and doing roughly the same level of business as Godzilla. I was tempted to imagine that it could have powered to $600-$700 million overall, based on their strong marketing and star power. It would be ironic that despite being more action orientated and much shorter than the Peter Jackson Kong, it ended its box office run in that general area of $550 million.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:45 pm

I'd say the film made a good several hundred million for all studios involved. I think the reason it may not have earned as much is due to Beauty and the Beast getting released and Power Rangers.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:49 pm

So far, Kong: Skull Island has made $535 million overall.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:11 pm

King Kong TV Series in Development, Unrelated to Legendary’s Kong: Skull Island
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:17 pm

Reading the pitch for this series, my eyebrow went up an inch or two. But not necessarily for the right reasons. First off claiming its a "contemporary continuation of the classic with a female-led, multi-cultural ensemble" strikes me as a tad contradictory, since claiming the 1933 King Kong is canon to a modern day setting is incredibly perfunctory. It's like dangling the original's appealing 1930s adventure serial setting in your face but not really embracing that.

The words "female-led" and "multi-cultural" are terrible and buzzwords in today's journalism climate, and nowadays come across as a real turn off, but it is worth noting that the 2005 film was ultimately focused more on Ann Darrow than it was Carl Denham, and the Venture crew did consist of sailors of various nationalities and ethnicities. The big difference between that and, say, GB2016 or something similar along those lines is how much they tried to shove the agenda in your face. Even allowing for the possibility that they do manage to walk that balance well, the real deciding factor is the creature effects, because unless you're HBO or a similar high profile channel most creature CGI is going to look quite poor. Whatever the case may be, I hope this isn't a fool's errand.
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:36 pm

2 seconds were cut for every 5 minutes shot from Kong: Skull Island.

Overall, it made slightly over $566 million dollars
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PostSubject: Re: The King Kong thread   Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:19 pm

Kong: Skull Island aside, one thing i like doing is figuring out what the "essential" animals on Skull Island are, mainly comparing and contrasting the original film and the 2005 version since the latter has the most realistic ecosystem. there's actually alot more parallels between the two than the films suggest, like how the World of Kong book has mention of a stegosaur called Atercurisaurus that's obviously an homage to the stegosaur from the original film
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