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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:05 pm

It looks like China won't save Transformers 5 like it did with Age Of Extinction back in 2014.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:46 pm

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It looks like China won't save Transformers 5 like it did with Age Of Extinction back in 2014.

Lol unless things get significantly better all those other planned movies are never coming to fruition.

And even if the movies were good, I think it speaks to how tired people are getting in general of even great sequels coming at too quick a pace. It seems like every big summer hit in recent memory is just a sequel. And I think people are fatigued.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:20 am

Transformers 5 suffered an 82% friday-to-friday implosion.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:06 pm

Damn, this movie is starting to bomb faster than one of Michael's Bay's own explosion-fests!
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:17 pm

Transformers 5 has made just under $430 million dollars...but only $102 million of that came from American moviegoers.

And it looks likes pandering to China was a part of that.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:58 pm

My guess is that Transformers 5 will make similar money to the 5th Pirates of the Caribbean movie, but not much more than that. Enough to be financially solvent, but certainly not a billion dollar hit.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:38 pm

I blame Spielberg for much of this. He's the Executive Producer of Transformers from day one, but other then firing Megan Fox for her Hitler comment-though I've heard it was just a cover since the real reason was that she was a spoiled brat offscreen and THAT was the real reason-he hasn't done ANYTHING to make it better. He's just been sitting and let Michael Bay do everything they way he did back when JP3 was being run into the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:01 pm

My view on Spielberg's involvement is a bit more complicated. The ironic thing is that early in the production of the first film, Spielberg was actually one of the mitigating forces on the production, and with Michael Bay wanting to impress him he dialed back much of his typical Bay-isms and being more of a team player. He even listened to the early fan criticisms, including redesigning Optimus Prime and casting Peter Cullen to voice Prime. But since the second film, and each sequel being a big paycheck for him, he obviously allowed his excesses to drown out any Spielberg elements that could be pointed out in the first film. Basically, I think Spielberg was a boon to the first film but his non-involvement in the sequels (apart from Megan Fox getting fired) and not letting Michael Bay go after the first film doomed the franchise.

If you care to know more, check out this retrospective/review by one of my personal favourite YouTubers, Oliver Harper. In the first part, he touches on why DreamWorks and Spielberg got involved and how Robert Zemeckis was almost the man who got the job. If he was ever interested, he would have been a far superior choice. Even the pitch for the first TF movie was meant to invoke 80s sci-fi in a suburban setting, and you get elements of it like the Autobots' descent onto Earth.

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:27 pm

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My view on Spielberg's involvement is a bit more complicated. The ironic thing is that early in the production of the first film, Spielberg was actually one of the mitigating forces on the production, and with Michael Bay wanting to impress him he dialed back much of his typical Bay-isms and being more of a team player. He even listened to the early fan criticisms, including redesigning Optimus Prime and casting Peter Cullen to voice Prime. But since the second film, and each sequel being a big paycheck for him, he obviously allowed his excesses to drown out any Spielberg elements that could be pointed out in the first film. Basically, I think Spielberg was a boon to the first film but his non-involvement in the sequels (apart from Megan Fox getting fired) and not letting Michael Bay go after the first film doomed the franchise.

If you care to know more, check out this retrospective/review by one of my personal favourite YouTubers, Oliver Harper. In the first part, he touches on why DreamWorks and Spielberg got involved and how Robert Zemeckis was almost the man who got the job. If he was ever interested, he would have been a far superior choice. Even the pitch for the first TF movie was meant to invoke 80s sci-fi in a suburban setting, and you get elements of it like the Autobots' descent onto Earth.

Thanks for the share. Pretty fascinating stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:47 am

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My view on Spielberg's involvement is a bit more complicated. The ironic thing is that early in the production of the first film, Spielberg was actually one of the mitigating forces on the production, and with Michael Bay wanting to impress him he dialed back much of his typical Bay-isms and being more of a team player. He even listened to the early fan criticisms, including redesigning Optimus Prime and casting Peter Cullen to voice Prime. But since the second film, and each sequel being a big paycheck for him, he obviously allowed his excesses to drown out any Spielberg elements that could be pointed out in the first film. Basically, I think Spielberg was a boon to the first film but his non-involvement in the sequels (apart from Megan Fox getting fired) and not letting Michael Bay go after the first film doomed the franchise.

If you care to know more, check out this retrospective/review by one of my personal favourite YouTubers, Oliver Harper. In the first part, he touches on why DreamWorks and Spielberg got involved and how Robert Zemeckis was almost the man who got the job. If he was ever interested, he would have been a far superior choice. Even the pitch for the first TF movie was meant to invoke 80s sci-fi in a suburban setting, and you get elements of it like the Autobots' descent onto Earth.

Thanks for the share. Pretty fascinating stuff.

It is a remarkable video. I do find it odd that he basically blew off Beast Wars, though. After all, that's still regarded as the best Transformers cartoon show ever made.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:59 pm

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It is a remarkable video. I do find it odd that he basically blew off Beast Wars, though. After all, that's still regarded as the best Transformers cartoon show ever made.

I'm confused, when you said "he", do you mean Oliver or Michael Bay?

While I agree that Beast Wars is easily one of the best Transformers show ever created, I think it's still not as well known as the more recent shows or Generation 1. When it comes to Geek pop culture, hasn't gained that level of recognition despite it being very successful during its time. I have no real idea why, but it certainly deserves more attention.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:23 pm

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It is a remarkable video. I do find it odd that he basically blew off Beast Wars, though. After all, that's still regarded as the best Transformers cartoon show ever made.

I'm confused, when you said "he", do you mean Oliver or Michael Bay?

While I agree that Beast Wars is easily one of the best Transformers show ever created, I think it's still not as well known as the more recent shows or Generation 1. When it comes to Geek pop culture, hasn't gained that level of recognition despite it being very successful during its time. I have no real idea why, but it certainly deserves more attention.

Oliver. He just ignores it, or at least it seems like that.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:38 pm

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Oliver. He just ignores it, or at least it seems like that.

I think it's more of an oversight on his part, not a deliberate attempt to slight the show. Like I said, the general awareness of Transformers G1 (thanks in part to the first movie) generally outweighs anything that occurred afterwards, with only fairly recent shows like Transformers: Prime getting a bit more attention than the norm.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:55 pm

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Oliver. He just ignores it, or at least it seems like that.

I think it's more of an oversight on his part, not a deliberate attempt to slight the show. Like I said, the general awareness of Transformers G1 (thanks in part to the first movie) generally outweighs anything that occurred afterwards, with only fairly recent shows like Transformers: Prime getting a bit more attention than the norm.

I just find it odd that Beast Wars is overlooked considering how it's so popular with fans. Not to mention how, even as 1990's kids TV shows were, it was not only violent, but surprisingly graphic as well.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:49 pm

Probably unpopular opinion : I watched TF5 and really enjoyed it.

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:38 pm

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Probably unpopular opinion : I watched TF5 and really enjoyed it.

Good for you. Not being sarcastic. There are plenty of movies I go against the critics and general audience members on.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:09 pm

I just went in expecting a popcorn flick that was entertaining enough. Throw in some robot warriors and a dinosaur or two and I'm a happy man. Also Frank Welker as Megatron was a big appeal.

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:39 am

Could Shia return for Transformers 6?

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:30 pm

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I just went in expecting a popcorn flick that was entertaining enough. Throw in some robot warriors and a dinosaur or two and I'm a happy man. Also Frank Welker as Megatron was a big appeal.

My friend felt the same as you.

He's not happy about the box office.

Honestly at this point even if the films got great reviews could it save them? I'm not so sure... i think people will forever associate this universe with Michael bay until it gets a reboot.

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:24 pm

So is transformers 5 actually done box office wise(foreign?).

If so, ouch.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:46 am

I really have to wonder if Paramount is considering hitting the reboot button in order to restore confidence and interest in the franchise. Nowadays, in an age where photorealistic CGI characters can inhabit the screen for long stretches of time alongside humans (this wans't necessarily the case in 2007 from a technological standpoint), I think now the Autobots and Decepticons should be able to carry their own film now, and much less on humans.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:44 am

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I really have to wonder if Paramount is considering hitting the reboot button in order to restore confidence and interest in the franchise. Nowadays, in an age where photorealistic CGI characters can inhabit the screen for long stretches of time alongside humans (this wans't necessarily the case in 2007 from a technological standpoint), I think now the Autobots and Decepticons should be able to carry their own film now, and much less on humans.

They probably will after the 6th movie, but they would have to wait 6-8 years.

Speaking of which, Transformers 5 has made $517 million dollars, but only just under $125 million here in the United States. BOM says it has a budget of $217 million dollars. So even though it will make a respectable profit, it will still underperform.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:32 pm

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I really have to wonder if Paramount is considering hitting the reboot button in order to restore confidence and interest in the franchise. Nowadays, in an age where photorealistic CGI characters can inhabit the screen for long stretches of time alongside humans (this wans't necessarily the case in 2007 from a technological standpoint), I think now the Autobots and Decepticons should be able to carry their own film now, and much less on humans.

They probably will after the 6th movie, but they would have to wait 6-8 years.

Speaking of which, Transformers 5 has made $517 million dollars, but only just under $125 million here in the United States. BOM says it has a budget of $217 million dollars. So even though it will make a respectable profit, it will still underperform.

Yeah but the last one made over a billion. I thought the over seas would bring this at least to 750 total. A bit over 500 seems really shocking even in a year filled with tired sequels.

I know they made profit but did anyone expect such a large drop?
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:55 pm

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I really have to wonder if Paramount is considering hitting the reboot button in order to restore confidence and interest in the franchise. Nowadays, in an age where photorealistic CGI characters can inhabit the screen for long stretches of time alongside humans (this wans't necessarily the case in 2007 from a technological standpoint), I think now the Autobots and Decepticons should be able to carry their own film now, and much less on humans.

They probably will after the 6th movie, but they would have to wait 6-8 years.

Speaking of which, Transformers 5 has made $517 million dollars, but only just under $125 million here in the United States. BOM says it has a budget of $217 million dollars. So even though it will make a respectable profit, it will still underperform.

Yeah but the last one made over a billion. I thought the over seas would bring this at least to 750 total. A bit over 500 seems really shocking even in a year filled with tired sequels.

I know they made profit but did anyone expect such a large drop?

I think it's safe to say that was an anomaly. China is starting to wise up when it comes to seeing our crappy movies. It might get to $700 million, but that's pretty iffy. I'm thinking around $600-$620 million. Maybe $630-$640 million.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:05 pm

John Cena Joins The Cast Of Transformers Spin-Off Bumblebee

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:29 pm

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John Cena Joins The Cast Of Transformers Spin-Off Bumblebee

This made me laugh out loud. :')

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:41 pm

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John Cena Joins The Cast Of Transformers Spin-Off Bumblebee

This made me laugh out loud. :')

Ah, the simple pleasures in life.

Yep lol!

It's also been slated for December 2018 btw. Instead of June.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/transformers-spinoff-bumblebee-flies-to-december-2018-1202139401/

Lots of talk on Reddit about it going against Aquaman
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:25 pm

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BarrytheOnyx wrote:
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John Cena Joins The Cast Of Transformers Spin-Off Bumblebee

This made me laugh out loud. :')

Ah, the simple pleasures in life.

Yep lol!

It's also been slated for December 2018 btw. Instead of June.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/transformers-spinoff-bumblebee-flies-to-december-2018-1202139401/

Lots of talk on Reddit about it going against Aquaman

He said that we can't see him. In this case, he's right. I won't see it. I'll see Avengers: Infinity War and Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom instead. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:59 pm

Screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is no longer part of the Transformers movie franchise.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:43 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:
Troyal1 wrote:
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Dead2009 wrote:
John Cena Joins The Cast Of Transformers Spin-Off Bumblebee

This made me laugh out loud. :')

Ah, the simple pleasures in life.

Yep lol!

It's also been slated for December 2018 btw. Instead of June.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/transformers-spinoff-bumblebee-flies-to-december-2018-1202139401/

Lots of talk on Reddit about it going against Aquaman

He said that we can't see him. In this case, he's right. I won't see it. I'll see Avengers: Infinity War and Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom instead. Razz

Me as well.!
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:10 pm

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Screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is no longer part of the Transformers movie franchise.

First sign of an attempted cinematic universe crashing like the Hindenburg? Directors, producers and writers bail out quick.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:26 pm

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Screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is no longer part of the Transformers movie franchise.

First sign of an attempted cinematic universe crashing like the Hindenburg? Directors, producers and writers bail out quick.

I still think that Transformers 6 will be the final Micheal Bay made Transformers movie. They can try to make a few spin-off prequels a la Bumblebee, but I don't see that working. This whole thing is tainted now. At least with the DCMU, you can salvage something. This you can't salvage ANYTHING! Not unless you consider what not to do as salvaging something, anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:40 pm

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BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is no longer part of the Transformers movie franchise.

First sign of an attempted cinematic universe crashing like the Hindenburg? Directors, producers and writers bail out quick.

I still think that Transformers 6 will be the final Micheal Bay made Transformers movie. They can try to make a few spin-off prequels a la Bumblebee, but I don't see that working. This whole thing is tainted now. At least with the DCMU, you can salvage something. This you can't salvage ANYTHING! Not unless you consider what not to do as salvaging something, anyway.

Even if Paramount were to reboot Transformers and give it a complete rehaul in a way that resembles the G1 cartoon (with the writing panache and character development of Beast Wars) and dispenses with all of Michael Bay's blockbuster fingerprints, I think audiences will not only be wary but completely dismissive of it even if it turned out to be a good film. Spider-Man: Homecoming is slowly crawling its way up to the total box office of TASM2

And suppose they go the reboot route, that leaves Paramount without a major competing franchise for a good many years and other major releases that really struggle to make their money back. They have Mission: Impossible and the Cloverfield movies... and that's it. There's no word about bringing back Star Trek to the big screen after the decidedly lousy marketing and weak box office for Star Trek Beyond.

They need something to replace Transformers. Not to insert too much of my own biases in this, but if I were an executive at Paramount I would seriously pump the Edgar Rice Burroughs estate for another go at the John Carter of Mars books; establish a new sci-fi space opera while still being visually distinct in every way from the Andrew Stanton movie. The rest of Burroughs' vast worlds can follow from there.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:53 pm

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Rhedosaurus wrote:
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is no longer part of the Transformers movie franchise.

First sign of an attempted cinematic universe crashing like the Hindenburg? Directors, producers and writers bail out quick.

I still think that Transformers 6 will be the final Micheal Bay made Transformers movie. They can try to make a few spin-off prequels a la Bumblebee, but I don't see that working. This whole thing is tainted now. At least with the DCMU, you can salvage something. This you can't salvage ANYTHING! Not unless you consider what not to do as salvaging something, anyway.

Even if Paramount were to reboot Transformers and give it a complete rehaul in a way that resembles the G1 cartoon (with the writing panache and character development of Beast Wars) and dispenses with all of Michael Bay's blockbuster fingerprints, I think audiences will not only be wary but completely dismissive of it even if it turned out to be a good film. Spider-Man: Homecoming is slowly crawling its way up to the total box office of TASM2

And suppose they go the reboot route, that leaves Paramount without a major competing franchise for a good many years and other major releases that really struggle to make their money back. They have Mission: Impossible and the Cloverfield movies... and that's it. There's no word about bringing back Star Trek to the big screen after the decidedly lousy marketing and weak box office for Star Trek Beyond.

They need something to replace Transformers. Not to insert too much of my own biases in this, but if I were an executive at Paramount I would seriously pump the Edgar Rice Burroughs estate for another go at the John Carter of Mars books; establish a new sci-fi space opera while still being visually distinct in every way from the Andrew Stanton movie. The rest of Burroughs' vast worlds can follow from there.

James Cameron said that he plans to reboot the Terminator franchise. And given how Paramount said that they planned to make a proper T3 that took place after T2 and would have rendered all the other Terminator movies made after T2 non-canon, I'm going under the mindset that Paramount gave the rights back to Cameron in exchange for him making that franchise Paramount's main cash cow. Although given how Paramount is $13.5-$14 billion in debt, I see them giving the rights back to Cameron no questions asked and with no strings attached. So untill further notice, we might as well consider Terminator under Cameron's control as Paramount's next major franchise.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:37 pm

The all-star writers room that Akiva Goldsman made for the Transformers franchise has been disbanded.

We might as well consider this official. The Transformers movie franchise will end with Transformers 6. There's no coming back from all this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:36 pm

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The all-star writers room that Akiva Goldsman made for the Transformers franchise has been disbanded.

We might as well consider this official. The Transformers movie franchise will end with Transformers 6. There's no coming back from all this.

Wow. That's pretty big.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:40 pm

It looks like the Transformers movie franchise is trying the animation route to save itself.

It won't work. The franchise is just too toxic right now.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:27 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:
It looks like the Transformers movie franchise is trying the animation route to save itself.

It won't work. The franchise is just too toxic right now.

In its current iteration, agreed. I don't particularly care for this Transformers movie series and would rather see a better version of it take its place.

But if they brought up the simpler template of one of their earlier Transformers cartoons, gave it a major animation boost and retained most of the voice cast, you might have the foundations for a solid animated film. This might strike several as an odd comparison, but right now I think Hasbro is going to be very carefully watching the My Little Pony Movie to see how well it performs. Yes, there are so many huge differences in tone and style between both of these franchises, but its clear that one has been an on-going success on television for several reasons including good writing, likable characters and having several levels of humour that works for different age groups.

Also, with the live action Transformers films starting to fail at the box office and being ungodly expensive, the comparatively cheaper medium of animation as well as a whole new team behind it could be what the franchise needs to redeem itself. The focus would naturally shift away from general audiences to families and long-time fans of the franchise, but I believe it would help.
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:31 pm

Acordingh to this article (90% through) Transformers 5 will have hard a time to make $600 million dollars.

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:53 pm

this'n, once, for, more to, check, this breathe, some, timing,
why, could we be made to believe, that any aspect of our reality, would never involve what you know, unless, I couldn't breathe right, or,
that you could not, intuit a response to this post, can you? these messages here are, changing not, they seem, broken, yet, no, these comma, here, for my, communication,
intuition? do you know me, better, by this read?
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:35 pm

Let's try and stay on topic yeah?

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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:45 pm

TRK, that whole thing was written to sound like Optimus Prime, why aren't you reading into things? I love Transformers, what are you talking about?

but more like, the pauses and breaks are a machine, breaking down his breathing, because I can't tell what people are saying?

are you guys all here, posting life? or, did you deceive me? hiii, what's up? Who's your favorite Autobot?
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:48 pm

Am I allowed to try and talk like bumblebee? I know I AM!! how in the world do you guys learn how to talk to people, if you don't play with them? I don't know all your dialects, do you this one?

"I can't be enough!" "Listen, listen, life just isn't the same no more."
"Who are you, anyway?" "Are we really here?"
"I'M not angry, your wife is angry, do I look angry to you?" "Okay, what?" "Try again, sailor, it ain't all our faults, just yours.. you know?"
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PostSubject: Re: The Transformers Thread   Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:33 pm

Your posts look extremely like that of a spam bot. You cannot blame us for being sceptical. Just wanted to make sure.

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