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PostSubject: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:13 am

After watching Jurassic World numerous times, it seems like everyone treats the 1993 incident as a huge tragedy.

Yeah, people were killed, but in the grand scheme of things, it really wasn't that deadly of a disaster. Everyone treats it like it was something along the lines of say the Chernobyl disaster or the Challenger explosion.

This of course, is implying that the deaths of Gennaro, Arnold, and Muldoon were the only ones made public after the San Diego Incident.

If we include Sorkin, David Banks, and the mercenaries, the death toll is increased to 11, which is a bit more significant.

I'm not exactly sure whether Nedry and Chadwick's deaths were ever discovered (let alone the fact that Nedry had committed corporate espionage.), as nothing reveals whether that aspect was or not.

But if Harding and Cruz' situation was designated as a separate case concurrent to the main events that took place, then it is more than likely that Nedry's exact motives were revealed.

On a side note, it appears that the 1997 Isla Sorna incident was largely covered up (with the Bowman incident possibly settling out of court.)
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:28 am

I think the incident is exaggerated out-of-universe, with people online going on and on about how much of a disaster it was, along Chernobyl lines as you suggested. People in reality seem awfully eager to exaggerate, for instance the line in the Jurassic World trailer, "if something chases you, run!", people were making comparisons to 9/11 and saying that to your kid is like making an aircraft based joke in a trip to New York City and would be in very bad taste.

While the two Isla Sorna incidents were treated with a lot of hush-hush, the 1997 San Diego incident probably served as the impetus for the renewed interest in living dinosaurs, as seen in the university lecture scene in JP3, which was allowed to grow in the next four years until the new Jurassic World park opened in 2005.

In the context of Jurassic World, I think that line has a reasonable foundation since the scene where Lowery is questioned about his retro JP t-shirt sort of goes against the renovated ethos that the new park under Masrani represents; that is a park that has been accident free and successful for ten years rather than a failed experiment in which people did die.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:41 am

Yeah, It's a bit puzzling that people in JW references the 1993 incident as being such a catastrophic disaster, over the obvious 1997 San Diego incident which was how people know dinosaurs are back.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:28 pm

JP incident was hushed over for four years, people actually laughed at Malcolm when he brought it up. (See the subway asshole) But in comparison, very contained.

Jurassic World incident...not so much. Thousands of people crammed into Main street as Pterosaurs attack? A Showdown between two super predators in main street in view of the hotel? Also lets not forget that the law of averages says that for every thousand people, at an amusement park, someone is filming their day. So that means they got a nice broadcast live of pterosaurs attacking people....also Zara's death. (If you don't believe me, go back to the mosasaur show and tell me how many phones you see)

So yeah. Not to mention we see a short clip of people packed in the hotel lobby tending to their injuries. I can bet you that high likelihood a lot of people kept their phones, but immediately went on to go complain on social media or give Jurassic World 1 star on yelp, or go call their lawyers to sue for damages.

Hell, even if lawsuits didn't work due to them signing waivers or whatever, the psychological damage done by guests posting wounds or whatever and then panning the phone's camera across that room would be a lot to scare people about what happened.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:17 pm

What happen in JP is one thing since relatively few people died, and in Nedry's case, it's doubtful if anybody would have cared since he sabotaged everything in the first place. So that in and of itself gave Ingen nice cover and a very useful scapegoat. "Nedry did it. He sabotaged everything." It's safe to say that given how nobody saw him again that everybody figured out that he died somehow.

What happened in San Diego and Nublar the second time around was much larger and practically impossible to cover up. Having an angry pissed off Papa T. rex rampaging in a big city simply can't be hidden. Even more so considering how Ludlow also hijacked it's baby again. Just look at the naval escort the cargo ship had after they were united. The only thing that was missing was an Iowa class battleship! Nublar 2.0 was just as big since you had a lot of people packed on an island. And with cell phone tech becoming a juggernaut, it's even more impossible to cover that up.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:59 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:

What happened in San Diego and Nublar the second time around was much larger and practically impossible to cover up. Having an angry pissed off Papa T. rex rampaging in a big city simply can't be hidden. Even more so considering how Ludlow also hijacked it's baby again. Just look at the naval escort the cargo ship had after they were united. The only thing that was missing was an Iowa class battleship! Nublar 2.0 was just as big since you had a lot of people packed on an island. And with cell phone tech becoming a juggernaut, it's even more impossible to cover that up.

This is what I think makes a much bigger hurdle for audiences to overcome when it comes to reconciling the Jurassic Park sequels to Jurassic World, and probably why most people say that JW is a remake/reboot of the series or just flat-out retcons the other sequels out of existence, despite that not being the case according to Trevorrow. Where most people see a plot hole too big to cover up, I see an opportunity - I still think they should make an animated series to serve as a bridge between the events of JP3 and Jurassic World. Alas, that's a giant what-if. Most people ask why would Jurassic World the park even happen with a Tyrannosaurus rampaging through a civilian zone.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:33 pm

@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:

What happened in San Diego and Nublar the second time around was much larger and practically impossible to cover up. Having an angry pissed off Papa T. rex rampaging in a big city simply can't be hidden. Even more so considering how Ludlow also hijacked it's baby again. Just look at the naval escort the cargo ship had after they were united. The only thing that was missing was an Iowa class battleship! Nublar 2.0 was just as big since you had a lot of people packed on an island. And with cell phone tech becoming a juggernaut, it's even more impossible to cover that up.

This is what I think makes a much bigger hurdle for audiences to overcome when it comes to reconciling the Jurassic Park sequels to Jurassic World, and probably why most people say that JW is a remake/reboot of the series or just flat-out retcons the other sequels out of existence, despite that not being the case according to Trevorrow. Where most people see a plot hole too big to cover up, I see an opportunity - I still think they should make an animated series to serve as a bridge between the events of JP3 and Jurassic World. Alas, that's a giant what-if. Most people ask why would Jurassic World the park even happen with a Tyrannosaurus rampaging through a civilian zone.

Personally, I'd like to see a prequel that bridges that. To be honest, I'd also like to see a movie that bridges the events between JP and TLW. Make JW the final movie chronologically, but not overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think the 1993 Isla Nublar incident is over-exaggerated in-universe?   Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:03 am

@Rhedosaurus wrote:

Personally, I'd like to see a prequel that bridges that. To be honest, I'd also like to see a movie that bridges the events between JP and TLW. Make JW the final movie chronologically, but not overall.
It's a bit too late for that, due to JW being left open-ended. I think the animated series idea works well between JP3 and JW, but a movie between JP and TLW would be nice. I imagine it would be about the day Sorna was abandoned.
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