Title revealed! Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom

Sickle_Claw wrote:

Fallen Kingdom. T-rex Kingdom.

Guess who is gonna die.

*drum roll*

I guarantee you will get a LOT of upset people, because for one reason. That this is Rexy, THE No. 1 Tyrannosaurus of the franchise, and when she was almost killed I guarantee that the vast majority of film-goers had some emotional lumps in their throats. We know that she is coming back, and what reason would the film makers bring her back if not to have her cross paths with the human heroes again?

If Rexy dies then it should be in the final scene and done emotionally.

Océane wrote:

^see I think you're forgetting the happy ending pal

Happy end? No. I hope we go as dark as possible. JW3 can have a happy end.


I would be ok if Rexy died, but of course she's a T.rex so she already has a shield against death, guess why...zzzzzzz. All dinosaurs will die except her for sure, she'll be the first to be rescued because her life means more than other dinosaurs bc she's "charismatic" and is already a character. It's the truth. She should be dead already because of her age, but hey, fanservice because LULZ!

That would crush my soul (if rexy died) , They better not go in that direction.

Herrerasaurus wrote:

That would crush my soul, They better not go in that direction.

Rexy dying? If so, relax. SHE WON'T BE TOUCHED. I'm 100% sure. 

Pretty sure Jurassic world 3 will have Extinction in the title. It'll be about Dinosaurs threatening the ecosystem around the world or something.

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

That would crush my soul, They better not go in that direction.

Rexy dying? If so, relax. SHE WON'T BE TOUCHED. I'm 100% sure. 

Btw i'm pretty sure we have the same first name haha

Pretty sure the "Kingdom" thing is just a coincidence.... :/

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

That would crush my soul, They better not go in that direction.

Rexy dying? If so, relax. SHE WON'T BE TOUCHED. I'm 100% sure. 

Btw i'm pretty sure we have the same first name haha

I think the only conceivable way how fans will accept her dying is if she leaves an biological heir behind. The Masrani site said that there was room for another T. rex (most likely a male) in the new park. Granted, that's not exactly the most reliable source of info around...But even so, it's the only situation that I can think of where fans can accept her dying.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

That would crush my soul, They better not go in that direction.

Rexy dying? If so, relax. SHE WON'T BE TOUCHED. I'm 100% sure. 

Btw i'm pretty sure we have the same first name haha

I think the only conceivable way how fans will accept her dying is if she leaves an biological heir behind. The Masrani site said that there was room for another T. rex (most likely a male) in the new park. Granted, that's not exactly the most reliable source of info around...But even so, it's the only situation that I can think of where fans can accept her dying.

Agreed. Killing off their main moneymaking dino before the third film is released would only serve to undermine the final film.

I don't think it necessarily has a be a "biological" heir, per se, but a new Rex, be it related to Rexy in some way or not, would have to be introduced to keep people happy.

I really like the title, I think as others have said it refers to Hammond's Dream, Nublar & the Dinosaurs themselves, actually a really dark title if u think about it.

The logo also reminds me of TLW's & the embers are referring to the eruption of the volcano. obviously.

Overall I dig both & am so glad we FINALLY have a title & a good one at that!

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

I guarantee you will get a LOT of upset people, because for one reason. That this is Rexy, THE No. 1 Tyrannosaurus of the franchise, and when she was almost killed I guarantee that the vast majority of film-goers had some emotional lumps in their throats.

The number one Tyrannosaurus in film history! And yes, I was starting to cry when Rexy nearly died.

Yeah, when Rexy when down and Indy was on top of her, I was thinking "No....NO! They won't do this again, will they? WILL THEY!??!?!"

Then Blue showed up and all was good

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

That would crush my soul, They better not go in that direction.

Rexy dying? If so, relax. SHE WON'T BE TOUCHED. I'm 100% sure. 

Btw i'm pretty sure we have the same first name haha

I think the only conceivable way how fans will accept her dying is if she leaves an biological heir behind. The Masrani site said that there was room for another T. rex (most likely a male) in the new park. Granted, that's not exactly the most reliable source of info around...But even so, it's the only situation that I can think of where fans can accept her dying.

Agreed. Killing off their main moneymaking dino before the third film is released would only serve to undermine the final film.

I don't think it necessarily has a be a "biological" heir, per se, but a new Rex, be it related to Rexy in some way or not, would have to be introduced to keep people happy.

I know you're gonna hate me for this but i kinda hope Rexy is killed off in this one. Not by another dino, but i see how it could be sad and really emotional.

But i like my movies depressing.

Troyal1 wrote:

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

That would crush my soul, They better not go in that direction.

Rexy dying? If so, relax. SHE WON'T BE TOUCHED. I'm 100% sure. 

Btw i'm pretty sure we have the same first name haha

I think the only conceivable way how fans will accept her dying is if she leaves an biological heir behind. The Masrani site said that there was room for another T. rex (most likely a male) in the new park. Granted, that's not exactly the most reliable source of info around...But even so, it's the only situation that I can think of where fans can accept her dying.

Agreed. Killing off their main moneymaking dino before the third film is released would only serve to undermine the final film.

I don't think it necessarily has a be a "biological" heir, per se, but a new Rex, be it related to Rexy in some way or not, would have to be introduced to keep people happy.

I know you're gonna hate me for this but i kinda hope Rexy is killed off in this one. Not by another dino, but i see how it could be sad and really emotional.

But i like my movies depressing.

I get ya, man. It would make for probably the most emotional scene of the franchise thus far. I certainly wouldn't be against it as long as we had another Rex to take her place for the final film.

Personally, I'm disappointed in the title, as it seems to confirm we're bound for another largely island-set adventure in the remains of the old park(s), and the mainland storyline will largely be window-dressing. And isn't "Fallen Kingdom" kind-of, like, say...a "lost world", as evolution_rex pointed out? So derivative.

Robotpo wrote:

And isn't "Fallen Kingdom" kind-of, like, say...a "lost world", as evolution_rex pointed out? So derivative.

I don't see how. The Lost World implies an uncharted land, whereas Fallen Kingdom gives the impression of an empire crumbling to the ground. Two entirely different concepts.

Also, if we're talking about derivative titles, which title was lifted directly from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle?

Really, it's the most original title we've had since the first film, as TLW lifted it's title from another famous work, JP3 just added a number, and JW simply changed Park to World. At least this is an original statement, which you really can't say about the previous three titles.

Crichton may have lifted his title from Conan Doyle, but his use of it for a sequel to JP was original in 1995 - it was a new idea for the series.

Meanwhile, Lost = "something not found or ended", while Fallen = "ended" (in this instance), and World = "an expansive environment", while Kingdom = "an expansive environment". Both "lost" and "fallen" suggest something beyond reach, and both "world" and "kingdom" suggest a considerable area. It's close enough that it it's parallel to the earlier title.

Any parallel to TLW:JP is a good thing IMO.

Robotpo wrote:

Crichton may have lifted his title from Conan Doyle, but his use of it for a sequel to JP was original in 1995 - it was a new idea for the series.

Meanwhile, Lost = "something not found or ended", while Fallen = "ended" (in this instance), and World = "an expansive environment", while Kingdom = "an expansive environment". It's close enough that it it's parallel to the earlier title, as opposed to something more original.

Well, "Lost" in the sense that Crichton seemed to be using it implies "not found, undiscovered", as opposed to "ended".

Basically, the titles are similar in the sense that the first word is an adjective, and the second word is a noun. That's basically where the similarities start and end for me.

And thematically, completely different meanings are implied, at least when it comes to the film version of TLW.

Dr. Wu wrote:

Any parallel to TLW:JP is a good thing IMO.

I'm a huge TLW fan, and wouldn't mind their acknowledging it, but wanted them to try something as original as possible for the fifth film. I guess the TLW-ish set pics and rumored story bits suggesting they're riffing on the second movie considerably may be why the title seems derivative to me.

Yeah, I think I like it, it's not like the greatest title ever, but you know it's definitely better than 'JW: Epoch', 'Ancient Futures' or simply 'JW 2'.

I actually kinda dug Ancient Futures as well xD Wouldn't have been unhappy if they had gone with that either.

One thing that kinda hits me as odd- The title of the film and the tagline kinda seem to contradict each other. That tells me that the "Fallen Kingdom" may actually refer to something else, be it Ingen/Masrani Global or even our own human kingdom.

Robotpo wrote:

Dr. Wu wrote:

Any parallel to TLW:JP is a good thing IMO.

I'm a huge TLW fan, and wouldn't mind their acknowledging it, but wanted them to try something as original as possible for the fifth film. I guess the TLW-ish set pics and rumored story bits suggesting they're riffing on the second movie considerably may be why the title seems derivative to me.

^This is how I feel. I think it's just more confirmation that just like how JW felt like a modern JP, JW2 will most likely be a modern TLW. This is not a bad thing, but it isn't good for the franchise to stay this stagnant in the new ideas department. If they expect any credibility for a third movie they need to move this to the mainland; Jurassic Park cannot keep surviving off of island plots. The tagline is just, what? That was a major theme in the first movie and in the second one and we're going to rehash it again? I'm not upset just very disappointed at the lack of originality on display by the filmmakers. So if JW is JP, and JW Fallen Kingdom is TLW, then that means that JW3 will be the worst of the three and cause Universal to shelf the series for 10+ years right?

Also why does the Fallen Kingdom title sound like a Michael Bay film?

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

One thing that kinda hits me as odd- The title of the film and the tagline kinda seem to contradict each other. That tells me that the "Fallen Kingdom" may actually refer to something else, be it Ingen/Masrani Global or even our own human kingdom.

I'm actually hoping the JP franchise/JP6/JW3 eventually goes Planet Of The Apes and ends with dinosaurs regaining control of Earth and man is reduced to a position where it can no longer be the dominant species.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

One thing that kinda hits me as odd- The title of the film and the tagline kinda seem to contradict each other. That tells me that the "Fallen Kingdom" may actually refer to something else, be it Ingen/Masrani Global or even our own human kingdom.

I'm actually hoping the JP franchise/JP6/JW3 eventually goes Planet Of The Apes and ends with dinosaurs regaining control of Earth and man is reduced to a position where it can no longer be the dominant species.

I like the idea, although if it were me, I'd like the franchise to end on a slightly more hopeful note, with humankind continuing but dinosaurs reasserting themselves into the planets ecosystem to the point where they're essentially just looked at as animals.

Humans and dinosaurs sharing the planet together. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I hope the movies does not go into that direction (planet of the apes style) but a mainly mainland plot in jw 3 would be cool. Also i would wait till the actual movie comes out before calling tlw clone. From the leaks it sounds a little similar but the context is completely different and it sounds like it is step into making jw 3 a mainland dino plotline

Most likely JW3 will be a completely original idea since JP3 isn't well liked by most so why bother try to copy it?

But yeah JW is a modern JP and JW:FK will be a modern TLW.

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

I actually kinda dug Ancient Futures as well xD Wouldn't have been unhappy if they had gone with that either.

One thing that kinda hits me as odd- The title of the film and the tagline kinda seem to contradict each other. That tells me that the "Fallen Kingdom" may actually refer to something else, be it Ingen/Masrani Global or even our own human kingdom.

JW Ancient futures would be an awesome title for a spinoff film or tv show, or game imo.

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

Fallen Kingdom. T-rex Kingdom.

Guess who is gonna die.

*drum roll*

I guarantee you will get a LOT of upset people, because for one reason. That this is Rexy, THE No. 1 Tyrannosaurus of the franchise, and when she was almost killed I guarantee that the vast majority of film-goers had some emotional lumps in their throats. We know that she is coming back, and what reason would the film makers bring her back if not to have her cross paths with the human heroes again?

How upset will people be if/when that volcano drowns the old visitors center in lava? You know Bayonas gonna go for the emotional moment of a lingering shot of everything getting destroyed.d