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Definitely a flashback. That looks like an enclosure similar to a chimpanzees with fake jungle in the background.

I’m surprised a description of the trailer hasn’t leaked yet.

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Definitely a flashback. That looks like an enclosure similar to a chimpanzees with fake jungle in the background.

I’m surprised a description of the trailer hasn’t leaked yet.

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Yes! It's going to be Owen's reminder of why he loves these animals! His motivation.
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The Baryonyx scene looks like it could be a third act moment, yet it's likely to be in the middle of the film. How will the Indoraptor top this? I mean, everything about it screams final boss battle from Resident Evil! The Indoraptor scene is gonna have to have some really cool stuff in it to top something so visually interesting as this one! CAN. NOT. WAIT.

Yea I think Baryonyx has been included to give the movie a fresh carnivore antagonist for the part of the film that takes place on Isla Nublar. It's a smart idea as the species has long been canon to Nublar in the novel and movies.

Lockwood Manor is your Act 3 finale and it will be intense from all of the reports. They were supposedly going for a "raptors in the visitors center" vibe to the finale. Smaller scale than the middle part of the film but much more intense and frightening.
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The Baryonyx scene looks like it could be a third act moment, yet it's likely to be in the middle of the film. How will the Indoraptor top this? I mean, everything about it screams final boss battle from Resident Evil! The Indoraptor scene is gonna have to have some really cool stuff in it to top something so visually interesting as this one! CAN. NOT. WAIT.

Yea I think Baryonyx has been included to give the movie a fresh carnivore antagonist for the part of the film that takes place on Isla Nublar.  It's a smart idea as the species has long been canon to Nublar in the novel and movies.  

Lockwood Manor is your Act 3 finale and it will be intense from all of the reports.  They were supposedly going for a "raptors in the visitors center" vibe to the finale.  Smaller scale than the middle part of the film but much more intense and frightening.  

I love the sound of that. I also remember them shooting in intense rain, so could get some really nice, creepy visual backdrops for the Indoraptor scene.
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Definitely a flashback. That looks like an enclosure similar to a chimpanzees with fake jungle in the background.

Could be a flashback, but why Owen is wearing that outfit?

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Definitely a flashback. That looks like an enclosure similar to a chimpanzees with fake jungle in the background.

Could be a flashback, but why Owen is wearing that outfit?

That's what's so weird about it. Perhaps like Indiana Jones, he just wears the same adventure outfit? haha
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I really think it's highly unlikely it's a flashback. Hell, the tagline of the movie is "Life Finds A Way". I'm telling you, filmmakers work tirelessly on set to make sure it will be easy for the audience to differentiate different time periods throughout the course of a movie. For a production of this scale to shoot a flashback with the main actor wearing the same clothes he wears in the present day scenes would be an amazingly egregious error in terms of film continuity.

I would be more open to it being a flashback if it was some small tv show. A production of this size employs multiple people to make sure nothing that stupid would be put on film.
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I really think it's highly unlikely it's a flashback.  Hell, the tagline of the movie is "Life Finds A Way".  I'm telling you, filmmakers work tirelessly on set to make sure it will be easy for the audience to differentiate different time periods throughout the course of a movie.  For a production of this scale to shoot a flashback with the main actor wearing the same clothes he wears in the present day scenes would be an amazingly egregious error in terms of film continuity.

I would be more open to it being a flashback if it was some small tv show.  A production of this size employs multiple people to make sure nothing that stupid would be put on film.

I agree. So why there's a baby Raptor in that nursery (judging by the animal toys there)? Where's the nursery? Where did they find that baby Raptor? Is the Visitor Center? Then Owen brings the toys in his bag?

So many questions lol

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Also, the synopsis says "Set several years after.." etc. So how many years between JW and FK? I always thought 3, but... "Several" can mean 3?

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I really think it's highly unlikely it's a flashback.  Hell, the tagline of the movie is "Life Finds A Way".  I'm telling you, filmmakers work tirelessly on set to make sure it will be easy for the audience to differentiate different time periods throughout the course of a movie.  For a production of this scale to shoot a flashback with the main actor wearing the same clothes he wears in the present day scenes would be an amazingly egregious error in terms of film continuity.

I would be more open to it being a flashback if it was some small tv show.  A production of this size employs multiple people to make sure nothing that stupid would be put on film.

I agree. So why there's a baby Raptor in that nursery (judging by the animal toys there)? Where's the nursery? Where did they find that baby Raptor? Is the Visitor Center? Then Owen brings the toys in his bag?

So many questions lol

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Also, the synopsis says "Set several years after.." etc. So how many years between JW and FK? I always thought 3, but... "Several" can mean 3?

It can’t be the visitor center I don’t think. Look at the ground.
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My initial guess is that is Blue's offspring and it is being held at Lockwood Manor. The context of the scene is probably later in the movie, once the actions shifts to the mainland.
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My initial guess is that is Blue's offspring and it is being held at Lockwood Manor.  The context of the scene is probably later in the movie, once the actions shifts to the mainland.

I really think it's Blue, not her offspring. But I was wrong about the Indominus communicating the Raptors
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I am just so conflicted on determining what that scene is. The toys in the room really throw off my suspicions. I guess we'll find out Thursday, hopefully!

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NolaJP wrote:
My initial guess is that is Blue's offspring and it is being held at Lockwood Manor.  The context of the scene is probably later in the movie, once the actions shifts to the mainland.

That seems like something awfully big to spoil. For Owen to find an offspring along with blue and it be brought back. And then I also don’t think Lockwood is going to have a perfect nursery for baby raptors with toys.

I think it’s a flashback and they simply decided that this is an outfit he wears regularly. He wears similar stuff in the first.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JurassicPark/comments/7fzdpw/yep_its_blue/

It can absolutely go either way though.


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My initial guess is that is Blue's offspring and it is being held at Lockwood Manor.  The context of the scene is probably later in the movie, once the actions shifts to the mainland.

I really think it's Blue, not her offspring. But I was wrong about the Indominus communicating the Raptors

It very well could be, but it would be one of the absolute worst cases in film history of bad/lazy continuity. That is the only reason why I feel certain it is not a flashback. That kind of thing simply just doesn't slip by in productions of this scale. There would have been upwards of 100 people on set asking their superior "isn't that what he wears in the present day scenes?". I'm telling you, I've spent some time on production sets and it just would not happen.

The only logical explanation seems to be that Blue has been inflicted with some type of Benjamin Button virus where she is aging backwards!
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Okay, that Baryonyx shot is killing me!!! I can't belive I'll get to see my favorites on a Jurassic movie for the first time! Baryonyx looks epic! Can't wait to see it!

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Definitely a flashback. That looks like an enclosure similar to a chimpanzees with fake jungle in the background.

I’m surprised a description of the trailer hasn’t leaked yet.

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Yes! It's going to be Owen's reminder of why he loves BLUE! His motivation.
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Definitely a flashback. That looks like an enclosure similar to a chimpanzees with fake jungle in the background.

I’m surprised a description of the trailer hasn’t leaked yet.

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Yes! It's going to be Owen's reminder of why he loves BLUE! His motivation.
Fixed.  Razz

Nahh, he obviously cares about the Dinosaurs, we see that in the Apatosaurus scene. He's even concerned about the Indominus when he finds out how they're feeding it.
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Apparently Owen, Claire, Franklin & Zia are part of the same team according to his article :

“Claire’s founded an organization, Dinosaur Protection Group, and they’re finding a way to get these dinosaurs off the island,” Howard says. “She reaches out to Owen Grady to let him know this is happening.” Hmm. “Reaches out”? It seems Howard and Pratt’s burgeoning relationship now falls under the heading of “It’s complicated.” “When you see them at the beginning of this story, you get caught up as to what’s going on,” Howard says. “But it’s not what you would necessarily expect.”

Daniella Pineda (TBS’ The Detour) and Justice Smith (Paper Towns) play new characters involved with Claire’s dino-saving group, and Jeff Goldblum returns as mathematician Dr. Ian Malcolm for the first time in 20 years. “I had to overcome the impact of being in front of Ian Malcolm,” Bayona says. “After so many years, Jeff Goldblum was in front of a camera again talking about dinosaurs!” Like Mother Nature, Hollywood reboots always find a way.


http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/05/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-first-look/

Who wants to bet Daniella's character Zia Song betrays the other 3 as she is secretly working for Lockwood!? Cool


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Apparently Owen, Claire, Franklin & Zia are part of the same team according to his article :

“Claire’s founded an organization, Dinosaur Protection Group, and they’re finding a way to get these dinosaurs off the island,” Howard says. “She reaches out to Owen Grady to let him know this is happening.” Hmm. “Reaches out”? It seems Howard and Pratt’s burgeoning relationship now falls under the heading of “It’s complicated.” “When you see them at the beginning of this story, you get caught up as to what’s going on,” Howard says. “But it’s not what you would necessarily expect.”

Daniella Pineda (TBS’ The Detour) and Justice Smith (Paper Towns) play new characters involved with Claire’s dino-saving group, and Jeff Goldblum returns as mathematician Dr. Ian Malcolm for the first time in 20 years. “I had to overcome the impact of being in front of Ian Malcolm,” Bayona says. “After so many years, Jeff Goldblum was in front of a camera again talking about dinosaurs!” Like Mother Nature, Hollywood reboots always find a way.


http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/05/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-first-look/

They're part of the Dino saving group, but that could also mean just temporarily. I still think Daniela's character will end up being an antagonist
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Apparently Owen, Claire, Franklin & Zia are part of the same team according to his article :

“Claire’s founded an organization, Dinosaur Protection Group, and they’re finding a way to get these dinosaurs off the island,” Howard says. “She reaches out to Owen Grady to let him know this is happening.” Hmm. “Reaches out”? It seems Howard and Pratt’s burgeoning relationship now falls under the heading of “It’s complicated.” “When you see them at the beginning of this story, you get caught up as to what’s going on,” Howard says. “But it’s not what you would necessarily expect.”

Daniella Pineda (TBS’ The Detour) and Justice Smith (Paper Towns) play new characters involved with Claire’s dino-saving group, and Jeff Goldblum returns as mathematician Dr. Ian Malcolm for the first time in 20 years. “I had to overcome the impact of being in front of Ian Malcolm,” Bayona says. “After so many years, Jeff Goldblum was in front of a camera again talking about dinosaurs!” Like Mother Nature, Hollywood reboots always find a way.


http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/05/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-first-look/

They're part of the Dino saving group, but that could also mean just temporarily. I still think Daniela's character will end up being an antagonist

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Okay, that Baryonyx shot looks terrifying. I think the scene will be one of the highlights of the movie.
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So far, the reaction to the basic plot of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom has been all over the place. Naturally, not everyone was going to gravitate towards the basic plot that's been described, even more so if they were not fans of JW. Comparisons to The Lost World have been drawn, most unfavorably and citing laziness. Many questioning why there is an animal rights angle, especially with Claire being the one to lead it, for a group of animals that were artificially procured. Then there's the often intense knee-jerk negativity to the fact that the characters are going to a now volcanic island and have written off the film as some kind of disaster before its even landed. And these two articles below typify that.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/the-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-plot-sounds-like.html


In this first link, it's at least humourous for how much the writer misses the mark and assumes so much from so little. For example, losing it over the fact that the park was built on top of an island in the Pacific whereupon the volcano is becoming active again, even though volcanic activity in the Hawaiian islands is nothing unheard of. Then he claims "This is literally a film about volcanoes and dinosaur-shipping logistics." That's to say nothing of the mental gynmastics involved on how Ian Malcolm's involved in the film, facetiously saying aloud: "Did they knock him unconscious and just transport him there against his will?"

https://www.monkeysfightingrobots.com/heres-the-baffling-synopsis-for-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/

But this one takes the cow pie for sheer disdain and condescension. I've forced myself through videos and articles that have railed against not just Jurassic World but the franchise at large besides the only truly beloved first film. But the article tosses its own article out of the window by painting ALL the dinosaurs (herbivores and carnivores) in the same brush as "vicious killers", having clearly not paid ANY modicum of attention to the scenes involving the Brachiosaurus, the Triceratops, the Stegosaurus, the dying Apatosaurus and pretty much any scene with the herbivores in their element. Even the carnivores are not just mindless beasts. And he thinks that they're not worth saving. Larry Taylor also seems to think genetic engineering is as easy as waving a magic wand: "Also, since they were created in a lab why not.. oh I don’t know… make more?" So he concludes that the film is nothing more than a "soulless cash grab" that doesn't care about its audience "because dinosaurs!"

Mr Larry Taylor, on behalf of my sanity and love of dinosaurs, FUCK YOU.

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Just wait until Paleo Snobs like Mark Witton and the Feather Nazis complain and moan.

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So far, the reaction to the basic plot of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom has been all over the place. Naturally, not everyone was going to gravitate towards the basic plot that's been described, even more so if they were not fans of JW. Comparisons to The Lost World have been drawn, most unfavorably and citing laziness. Many questioning why there is an animal rights angle, especially with Claire being the one to lead it, for a group of animals that were artificially procured. Then there's the often intense knee-jerk negativity to the fact that the characters are going to a now volcanic island and have written off the film as some kind of disaster before its even landed. And these two articles below typify that.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/the-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-plot-sounds-like.html


In this first link, it's at least humourous for how much the writer misses the mark and assumes so much from so little. For example, losing it over the fact that the park was built on top of an island in the Pacific whereupon the volcano is becoming active again, even though volcanic activity in the Hawaiian islands is nothing unheard of. Then he claims "This is literally a film about volcanoes and dinosaur-shipping logistics." That's to say nothing of the mental gynmastics involved on how Ian Malcolm's involved in the film, facetiously saying aloud: "Did they knock him unconscious and just transport him there against his will?"

https://www.monkeysfightingrobots.com/heres-the-baffling-synopsis-for-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/

But this one takes the cow pie for sheer disdain and condescension. I've forced myself through videos and articles that have railed against not just Jurassic World but the franchise at large besides the only truly beloved first film. But the article tosses its own article out of the window by painting ALL the dinosaurs (herbivores and carnivores) in the same brush as "vicious killers", having clearly not paid ANY modicum of attention to the scenes involving the Brachiosaurus, the Triceratops, the Stegosaurus, the dying Apatosaurus and pretty much any scene with the herbivores in their element. Even the carnivores are not just mindless beasts. And he thinks that they're not worth saving. Larry Taylor also seems to think genetic engineering is as easy as waving a magic wand: "Also, since they were created in a lab why not.. oh I don’t know… make more?" So he concludes that the film is nothing more than a "soulless cash grab" that doesn't care about its audience "because dinosaurs!"

Mr Larry Taylor, on behalf of my sanity and love of dinosaurs, FUCK YOU.

I wouldn't worry too much about the idiots. Most of the reaction I'm seeing is extremely positive. There was always going to be a vocal minority that would write the thing off before they even saw it. I'm pretty damn confident that the film will speak for itself and, if not completely silence the doubters, at least discredit them. It basically seems like they're just nitpicking the plot details that have been readily available for a long time now because they've seen the teasers and can't find anything to criticize.

Practical effects? Check.

Vastly improved CGI? Check.

Darker/grittier/less glossy tone? Check.

Anyways, on a different note, I REALLY hope we get a score reminiscent of the "Raptors in the Kitchen" score for the Baryonyx scene.

Just imagine if we got this.....

General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.4 - Page 16 Jurassic-World-Fallen-Kingdom-New-Dinosaur-Photo

With this playing in the background...



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BarrytheOnyx wrote:
So far, the reaction to the basic plot of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom has been all over the place. Naturally, not everyone was going to gravitate towards the basic plot that's been described, even more so if they were not fans of JW. Comparisons to The Lost World have been drawn, most unfavorably and citing laziness. Many questioning why there is an animal rights angle, especially with Claire being the one to lead it, for a group of animals that were artificially procured. Then there's the often intense knee-jerk negativity to the fact that the characters are going to a now volcanic island and have written off the film as some kind of disaster before its even landed. And these two articles below typify that.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/the-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-plot-sounds-like.html


In this first link, it's at least humourous for how much the writer misses the mark and assumes so much from so little. For example, losing it over the fact that the park was built on top of an island in the Pacific whereupon the volcano is becoming active again, even though volcanic activity in the Hawaiian islands is nothing unheard of. Then he claims "This is literally a film about volcanoes and dinosaur-shipping logistics." That's to say nothing of the mental gynmastics involved on how Ian Malcolm's involved in the film, facetiously saying aloud: "Did they knock him unconscious and just transport him there against his will?"

https://www.monkeysfightingrobots.com/heres-the-baffling-synopsis-for-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/

But this one takes the cow pie for sheer disdain and condescension. I've forced myself through videos and articles that have railed against not just Jurassic World but the franchise at large besides the only truly beloved first film. But the article tosses its own article out of the window by painting ALL the dinosaurs (herbivores and carnivores) in the same brush as "vicious killers", having clearly not paid ANY modicum of attention to the scenes involving the Brachiosaurus, the Triceratops, the Stegosaurus, the dying Apatosaurus and pretty much any scene with the herbivores in their element. Even the carnivores are not just mindless beasts. And he thinks that they're not worth saving. Larry Taylor also seems to think genetic engineering is as easy as waving a magic wand: "Also, since they were created in a lab why not.. oh I don’t know… make more?" So he concludes that the film is nothing more than a "soulless cash grab" that doesn't care about its audience "because dinosaurs!"

Mr Larry Taylor, on behalf of my sanity and love of dinosaurs, FUCK YOU.

These guys have been hired to write articles, yet can't even understand a basic plot. Also, everyone seems to be completely missing the whole animal rights aspect of the plot. Either that or they don't care for sentient life all that much. It's nice to know that they don't give a shit, I guess.
Honestly, if this is the dumbest thing imaginable for them, then their standards are incredibly high, or they haven't seen many movies. Either way, both articles are objectively bad, displaying that no thought was put into them and a sole purpose of just shitting on the film without it even coming out yet.
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My favorite is the "Why not just make more dinosaurs?" stuff xD

Hmmm. What do you think would be easier/cheaper/less time consuming. Purchasing/finding intact dinosaur DNA, hiring scientists to turn that DNA into living, breathing animals, raising them (including providing a place for them to live, medical care, and feeding them on a regular basis), and somehow keeping all of this under wraps for how ever many years it would take until the dinosaurs are grown to a point where you can conceivably sell them, or just simply swiping the already made dinosaurs off of of Nublar?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... confused

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BarrytheOnyx wrote:
So far, the reaction to the basic plot of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom has been all over the place. Naturally, not everyone was going to gravitate towards the basic plot that's been described, even more so if they were not fans of JW. Comparisons to The Lost World have been drawn, most unfavorably and citing laziness. Many questioning why there is an animal rights angle, especially with Claire being the one to lead it, for a group of animals that were artificially procured. Then there's the often intense knee-jerk negativity to the fact that the characters are going to a now volcanic island and have written off the film as some kind of disaster before its even landed. And these two articles below typify that.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/the-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-plot-sounds-like.html


In this first link, it's at least humourous for how much the writer misses the mark and assumes so much from so little. For example, losing it over the fact that the park was built on top of an island in the Pacific whereupon the volcano is becoming active again, even though volcanic activity in the Hawaiian islands is nothing unheard of. Then he claims "This is literally a film about volcanoes and dinosaur-shipping logistics." That's to say nothing of the mental gynmastics involved on how Ian Malcolm's involved in the film, facetiously saying aloud: "Did they knock him unconscious and just transport him there against his will?"

https://www.monkeysfightingrobots.com/heres-the-baffling-synopsis-for-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/

But this one takes the cow pie for sheer disdain and condescension. I've forced myself through videos and articles that have railed against not just Jurassic World but the franchise at large besides the only truly beloved first film. But the article tosses its own article out of the window by painting ALL the dinosaurs (herbivores and carnivores) in the same brush as "vicious killers", having clearly not paid ANY modicum of attention to the scenes involving the Brachiosaurus, the Triceratops, the Stegosaurus, the dying Apatosaurus and pretty much any scene with the herbivores in their element. Even the carnivores are not just mindless beasts. And he thinks that they're not worth saving. Larry Taylor also seems to think genetic engineering is as easy as waving a magic wand: "Also, since they were created in a lab why not.. oh I don’t know… make more?" So he concludes that the film is nothing more than a "soulless cash grab" that doesn't care about its audience "because dinosaurs!"

Mr Larry Taylor, on behalf of my sanity and love of dinosaurs, FUCK YOU.

Bary i definitely understand why that annoyed you.

I have no problem with different opinions. But information that is blatantly and objectively wrong, literally swimming in ignorance makes me really annoyed too. Especially when it's passed off as if the person knows what they are talking about. It's so arrogant.

It shouldn't bother me but i can relate.
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I love how people are like completely unrelentingly bashing the plot without having seen the full trailer. such idiocy.

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BarrytheOnyx wrote:
So far, the reaction to the basic plot of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom has been all over the place. Naturally, not everyone was going to gravitate towards the basic plot that's been described, even more so if they were not fans of JW. Comparisons to The Lost World have been drawn, most unfavorably and citing laziness. Many questioning why there is an animal rights angle, especially with Claire being the one to lead it, for a group of animals that were artificially procured. Then there's the often intense knee-jerk negativity to the fact that the characters are going to a now volcanic island and have written off the film as some kind of disaster before its even landed. And these two articles below typify that.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/the-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-plot-sounds-like.html


In this first link, it's at least humourous for how much the writer misses the mark and assumes so much from so little. For example, losing it over the fact that the park was built on top of an island in the Pacific whereupon the volcano is becoming active again, even though volcanic activity in the Hawaiian islands is nothing unheard of. Then he claims "This is literally a film about volcanoes and dinosaur-shipping logistics." That's to say nothing of the mental gynmastics involved on how Ian Malcolm's involved in the film, facetiously saying aloud: "Did they knock him unconscious and just transport him there against his will?"

https://www.monkeysfightingrobots.com/heres-the-baffling-synopsis-for-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/

But this one takes the cow pie for sheer disdain and condescension. I've forced myself through videos and articles that have railed against not just Jurassic World but the franchise at large besides the only truly beloved first film. But the article tosses its own article out of the window by painting ALL the dinosaurs (herbivores and carnivores) in the same brush as "vicious killers", having clearly not paid ANY modicum of attention to the scenes involving the Brachiosaurus, the Triceratops, the Stegosaurus, the dying Apatosaurus and pretty much any scene with the herbivores in their element. Even the carnivores are not just mindless beasts. And he thinks that they're not worth saving. Larry Taylor also seems to think genetic engineering is as easy as waving a magic wand: "Also, since they were created in a lab why not.. oh I don’t know… make more?" So he concludes that the film is nothing more than a "soulless cash grab" that doesn't care about its audience "because dinosaurs!"

Mr Larry Taylor, on behalf of my sanity and love of dinosaurs, FUCK YOU.

Bary i definitely understand why that annoyed you.

I have no problem with different opinions. But information that is blatantly and objectively wrong, literally swimming in ignorance makes me really annoyed too. Especially when it's passed off as if the person knows what they are talking about. It's so arrogant.

It shouldn't bother me but i can relate.  

Exactly, they couldn't even be bothered to actually read into it a little more before making an ill-informed article about it. There are so many reasons why they wouldn't "just clone more". Actually, the fact that they had to ask that question in the first place is dumb. the question itself is dumb.
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