General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.4

dance2nite wrote:

Yeah according to Neomorph -

Spoiler:

That scene is gonna be amazing for Bayona to play with.

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

YES! I love this post! It sums up how ignorant and hateful people are acting over this film PERFECTLY!

SmugTheFab wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

YES! I love this post! It sums up how ignorant and hateful people are acting over this film PERFECTLY!

Everyone is a damn hypocrite. It's really annoying.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

YES! I love this post! It sums up how ignorant and hateful people are acting over this film PERFECTLY!

Everyone is a damn hypocrite. It's really annoying.

I'm still not sure if they explain all the 'new' dinosaurs as dinosaurs that they conveniently weren't seen in the last movie. That can work for the Brachiosaurus and the Baryonyx, but not all the others.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

YES! I love this post! It sums up how ignorant and hateful people are acting over this film PERFECTLY!

Everyone is a damn hypocrite. It's really annoying.

It makes me mad.  It seems to me like if something isn't owned by Disney, people are going to complain about the smallest details or inconsistencies. But if it's owned by Disney, then everyone glorifies it? I don't see people complaining in the comments of the Star Wars trailer how similar to The Empire Strikes Back it is.

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

I think the raptor from the BTS is just an unfinished Blue animatronic,without the final layer of painting.

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

YES! I love this post! It sums up how ignorant and hateful people are acting over this film PERFECTLY!

Everyone is a damn hypocrite. It's really annoying.

I'm still not sure if they explain all the 'new' dinosaurs as dinosaurs that they conveniently weren't seen in the last movie. That can work for the Brachiosaurus and the Baryonyx, but not all the others.

That doesn't really bother me. They could just be a different batch that the guests didn't have access to seeing yet.

SmugTheFab wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

If for years people could accept that the Death Star was built with a massive flaw that could completely destroy it, then people should be able to accept that Jurassic Park was built on a volcanic island.

YES! I love this post! It sums up how ignorant and hateful people are acting over this film PERFECTLY!

Everyone is a damn hypocrite. It's really annoying.

It makes me mad.  It seems to me like if something isn't owned by Disney, people are going to complain about the smallest details or inconsistencies. But if it's owned by Disney, then everyone glorifies it? I don't see people complaining in the comments of the Star Wars trailer how similar to The Empire Strikes Back it is.

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Like I said, it's been many years. Perhaps they're trying to rid Isla Sorna of dinosaurs...? Probably not, but my point is there might be some intention we don't yet know about.

Then again, the creators of JW FK might have just wanted to have new cool dinosaur on the island.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Guys, I can't believe how many people in the comments are saying "why go back?", "You can make more Dinos" or "Let them die, who cares?". So many people lacking any slither of sympathy for sentient life forms.

Like, what do you mean why go back? Are people really this heartless? Don't answer, I know the answer is yes. lol.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

I'm not really sure where they stopped caring about the canon. Other than species of Dinos randomly appearing (which again, doesn't necessarily bother me because inGen), what have they screwed up canon-wise? I guess the inaccuracies in the callbacks to Jurassic Park made it a little underwhelming, but I'd need reminding haha

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

I'm not really sure where they stopped caring about the canon. Other than species of Dinos randomly appearing (which again, doesn't necessarily bother me because inGen), what have they screwed up canon-wise? I guess the inaccuracies in the callbacks to Jurassic Park made it a little underwhelming, but I'd need reminding haha

In JP3, they never explained were the Spino came from and given how we have a better idea of what it looked like, I doubt that they will ever explain why it looks so different from the 'modern' version. And given how the real one couldn't take down anything larger then medium sized dinosaurs (20-30 ft long 2-4 tons), we don't know how the JP3 Spino could win against a mostly full grown T. rex.

Then there are the JP3 raptors which look much different from TLW raptors without any explanation. The same with the JP3 and JW Pteranodons looking much different from the TLW one. And then there are small things like how the JW Stegosaurus's were almost tail draggers while those in TLW had straight upright tails.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

I'm not really sure where they stopped caring about the canon. Other than species of Dinos randomly appearing (which again, doesn't necessarily bother me because inGen), what have they screwed up canon-wise? I guess the inaccuracies in the callbacks to Jurassic Park made it a little underwhelming, but I'd need reminding haha

In JP3, they never explained were the Spino came from and given how we have a better idea of what it looked like, I doubt that they will ever explain why it looks so different from the 'modern' version. And given how the real one couldn't take down anything larger then medium sized dinosaurs (20-30 ft long 2-4 tons), we don't know how the JP3 Spino could win against a mostly full grown T. rex.

Then there are the JP3 raptors which look much different from TLW raptors without any explanation. The same with the JP3 and JW Pteranodons looking much different from the TLW one. And then there are small things like how the JW Stegosaurus's were almost tail draggers while those in TLW had straight upright tails.

"It wasn't on inGen's list, makes me wonder what else they're up to" that's enough. not every single detail needs to be explained, otherwise, they'd need a much longer movie. The Dinosaurs looking different is just Dinosaurs looking different. I doubt they'd all look exactly the same. Also, a lot of the Raptors in JP3 were male, right? The Spinosaurus looking different is just design, like the Raptors are oversized and the Dilo spits venom.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

I'm not really sure where they stopped caring about the canon. Other than species of Dinos randomly appearing (which again, doesn't necessarily bother me because inGen), what have they screwed up canon-wise? I guess the inaccuracies in the callbacks to Jurassic Park made it a little underwhelming, but I'd need reminding haha

In JP3, they never explained were the Spino came from and given how we have a better idea of what it looked like, I doubt that they will ever explain why it looks so different from the 'modern' version. And given how the real one couldn't take down anything larger then medium sized dinosaurs (20-30 ft long 2-4 tons), we don't know how the JP3 Spino could win against a mostly full grown T. rex.

Then there are the JP3 raptors which look much different from TLW raptors without any explanation. The same with the JP3 and JW Pteranodons looking much different from the TLW one. And then there are small things like how the JW Stegosaurus's were almost tail draggers while those in TLW had straight upright tails.

"It wasn't on inGen's list, makes me wonder what else they're up to" that's enough. not every single detail needs to be explained, otherwise, they'd need a much longer movie. The Dinosaurs looking different is just Dinosaurs looking different. I doubt they'd all look exactly the same. Also, a lot of the Raptors in JP3 were male, right? The Spinosaurus looking different is just design, like the Raptors are oversized and the Dilo spits venom.

Except that the JP3 Spino was the main dinosaur of the movie. Not only that, but while all the other dinosaurs have more or less the same basic design as their real-life counterparts, the JP3 Spino is SO much different then the modern one via the ways I mentioned previously, that you have to explain why it's so radically different and where it came from. Not doing so is just lazy and bad storytelling.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

I'm not really sure where they stopped caring about the canon. Other than species of Dinos randomly appearing (which again, doesn't necessarily bother me because inGen), what have they screwed up canon-wise? I guess the inaccuracies in the callbacks to Jurassic Park made it a little underwhelming, but I'd need reminding haha

In JP3, they never explained were the Spino came from and given how we have a better idea of what it looked like, I doubt that they will ever explain why it looks so different from the 'modern' version. And given how the real one couldn't take down anything larger then medium sized dinosaurs (20-30 ft long 2-4 tons), we don't know how the JP3 Spino could win against a mostly full grown T. rex.

Then there are the JP3 raptors which look much different from TLW raptors without any explanation. The same with the JP3 and JW Pteranodons looking much different from the TLW one. And then there are small things like how the JW Stegosaurus's were almost tail draggers while those in TLW had straight upright tails.

"It wasn't on inGen's list, makes me wonder what else they're up to" that's enough. not every single detail needs to be explained, otherwise, they'd need a much longer movie. The Dinosaurs looking different is just Dinosaurs looking different. I doubt they'd all look exactly the same. Also, a lot of the Raptors in JP3 were male, right? The Spinosaurus looking different is just design, like the Raptors are oversized and the Dilo spits venom.

Except that the JP3 Spino was the main dinosaur of the movie. Not only that, but while all the other dinosaurs have more or less the same basic design as their real-life counterparts, the JP3 Spino is SO much different then the modern one via the ways I mentioned previously, that you have to explain why it's so radically different and where it came from. Not doing so is just lazy and bad storytelling.

Wasn't the Spiosaurus accurate for it's time, though? I thought it wasn't until recently that the design changed a lot.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

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Well, I think do you agree that it was strange and had double meaning...I don't doubt they did on purpouse.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

SmugTheFab wrote:

Rhedosaurus, maybe they were shipped from Isla Sorna? It HAS been many years.

But why do that when you have plenty of dinosaurs on Nublar as is?

Originals: Rexy and the Brachiosaurus

Descendants of the originals: Parasaurolophus and maybe the Gallimimus and some of the Trikes.

New ones via JW: Everything else.

Not only that, but you also have the plot hole of a Spinosaurus being on the tour but the closest we got was that one skeleton which Universal tried, and failed, to explain it as that of the JP3 Spino.

No, people failed to understand what Universal meant. they meant it was the same species of Dinosaur seen in Jurassic Park 3, not that it was the same exact individual Spinosaurus from the film.

It sure seemed like Universal was ret-conning the JW skeleton as that of the JP3 Spino. The fact that they had a silhouette of it on the holoscape and had Rexy smash the skeleton clearly alluded to what happened in JP3. They did that as a way to ensure that enough fans won't talk about a rematch.




And even if that wasn't the case, the so much of the fanbase interpreted that way because of poorly worded Universal wrote it.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

That's because Star Wars gets a free pass on everything. It's so popular and massive that even people that never before liked it pretend to love it all of a sudden (because it's cool to). I've grown off Star Wars gradually. Not really anything I get excited for and that franchise itself has many, many plot holes that people just overlook because "OMG IT'S STAR WURZZZZZ, SO COOL!!!!"

To be fair, Disney has filled in some of the plot holes via Star Wars: Rebels, which takes place between the prequels and the OT. With the plot holes in the JP movie franchise, Universal barely cares at all. I remember talking to Ty about this and he said that it annoyed him how Universal stopped caring about the canon after TLW.

Those holes may have been 'fixed' now, but there was a long ass time between then that those plot holes were just ignored.

Unfortunately, unless Universal gets a Kevin Feige figure for the JP franchise, I think we are looking at the same thing here.

I'm not really sure where they stopped caring about the canon. Other than species of Dinos randomly appearing (which again, doesn't necessarily bother me because inGen), what have they screwed up canon-wise? I guess the inaccuracies in the callbacks to Jurassic Park made it a little underwhelming, but I'd need reminding haha

In JP3, they never explained were the Spino came from and given how we have a better idea of what it looked like, I doubt that they will ever explain why it looks so different from the 'modern' version. And given how the real one couldn't take down anything larger then medium sized dinosaurs (20-30 ft long 2-4 tons), we don't know how the JP3 Spino could win against a mostly full grown T. rex.

Then there are the JP3 raptors which look much different from TLW raptors without any explanation. The same with the JP3 and JW Pteranodons looking much different from the TLW one. And then there are small things like how the JW Stegosaurus's were almost tail draggers while those in TLW had straight upright tails.

"It wasn't on inGen's list, makes me wonder what else they're up to" that's enough. not every single detail needs to be explained, otherwise, they'd need a much longer movie. The Dinosaurs looking different is just Dinosaurs looking different. I doubt they'd all look exactly the same. Also, a lot of the Raptors in JP3 were male, right? The Spinosaurus looking different is just design, like the Raptors are oversized and the Dilo spits venom.

Except that the JP3 Spino was the main dinosaur of the movie. Not only that, but while all the other dinosaurs have more or less the same basic design as their real-life counterparts, the JP3 Spino is SO much different then the modern one via the ways I mentioned previously, that you have to explain why it's so radically different and where it came from. Not doing so is just lazy and bad storytelling.

Wasn't the Spiosaurus accurate for it's time, though? I thought it wasn't until recently that the design changed a lot.

That restoration was based on far more guesswork/speculation then what people think. Mainly because of how the original remains were destroyed and how very little remains were found between then and JP3. And let's not forget about Jack Horner's anti-T. rex bias.

I think of the websites as canon the same way JPTG is canon. They are part of the film universe, but there are continuity errors, just like in any film.

V.a.nublarensis wrote:

I think of the websites as canon the same way JPTG is canon. They are part of the film universe, but there are continuity errors, just like in any film.

I take the websites and Jurassic Park: The Game as being completely canon. They are both stated to be canon, and therefore they are through word of god until stated otherwise by Universal.

The Beeg One wrote:

V.a.nublarensis wrote:

I think of the websites as canon the same way JPTG is canon. They are part of the film universe, but there are continuity errors, just like in any film.

I take the websites and Jurassic Park: The Game as being completely canon. They are both stated to be canon, and therefore they are through word of god until stated otherwise by Universal.

And that even counts how Universal tried to state that Spino skeleton in JW was that of the JP3 Spino despite all the clear differences between the two?

Rhedosaurus wrote:

And that even counts how Universal tried to state that Spino skeleton in JW was that of the JP3 Spino despite all the clear differences between the two?

That statement isn't part of the website.

V.a.nublarensis wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

And that even counts how Universal tried to state that Spino skeleton in JW was that of the JP3 Spino despite all the clear differences between the two?

That statement isn't part of the website.

Well, that's what Universal said with that one virtual tour or whatever it was that they said.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Well, that's what Universal said with that one virtual tour or whatever it was that they said.

It was like a 15 second video on Twitter or something.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

V.a.nublarensis wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

And that even counts how Universal tried to state that Spino skeleton in JW was that of the JP3 Spino despite all the clear differences between the two?

That statement isn't part of the website.

Well, that's what Universal said with that one virtual tour or whatever it was that they said.

not gonna lie, looking at that snapshot from the Spinosaurus easter egg has me thinking. If they did mean just the same species, they've worded that horrendously. If they do in fact mean it's the same Spinosaurus from the 3rd film when the hell did they decide this. You'd think it would've been mentioned either in Jurassic World or the marketing before the film came out.