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Dead2009 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:39 pm | |
| https://deadline.com/2020/06/universal-jurassic-world-production-uk-chris-pratt-bryce-dallas-howard-1202958819/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:44 pm | |
| More details here: - Quote :
- Many large-scale animatronics were mid-development when the production shut down and those animatronics require crews in close proximity to operate. Will Dominion re-work scenes to be more reliant on visual effects than practical? We certainly hope this isn’t the case and would rather the studio delayed the film’s release date to provide accurate time for the production to catch up.
Further, sticking to the release date after months of delay means a tight schedule, which could lead to these animatronics never being finished and entirely replaced with a VFX option.
We’ve spoken to numerous visual effects artists who all say the same thing: meeting the demands of this film means massive compromise – sets, actors, extras, dinosaurs and more will go VFX wherever possible, even if it would have been previously unwarranted and unwanted. The looming deadline means massive crunch with long hours, and realistically cannot be achieved with the quality expected out of Jurassic without massively expanding the films budged and bringing in more effects houses to collaborate. Ultimately, this is untested territory and unfortunately will effect the films original vision in unique ways, something we will be looking to understand further in the future. https://www.jurassicoutpost.com/jurassic-world-dominion-set-to-resume-filming-on-july-6 I really hope we don't get the highly compromised version of this movie just to meet a release date. Haven't they learned anything from JP3? | |
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IllOrfanato Compsognathus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:28 pm | |
| No, God please no...
Jurassic World - 14-year long development hell, script woven over Stephen Spielberg ideas, rewritten few times and containing uneven effects and characters Fallen Kingdom - script rewritten, executives argue with director, marketing team spoils movie with trailers and merch, 40 minutes of the movie is cut out Dominion - despite money spent, executives push towards effect/story comprimises in order to meet deadline
After my disappointment of FK I was positively surprised by Battle of Big Rock and now I read this sort of news. Jeeez, Universal - could you make at least one movie without producer interference? It's like Fox Studios over and over again... | |
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IllOrfanato Compsognathus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:29 pm | |
| PS. Something tells me these CGI replacements are connected to the snowy setpieces they begun shooting. You don't have snow now obviously. | |
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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:53 am | |
| - Robotpo wrote:
- More details here:
- Quote :
- Many large-scale animatronics were mid-development when the production shut down and those animatronics require crews in close proximity to operate. Will Dominion re-work scenes to be more reliant on visual effects than practical? We certainly hope this isn’t the case and would rather the studio delayed the film’s release date to provide accurate time for the production to catch up.
Further, sticking to the release date after months of delay means a tight schedule, which could lead to these animatronics never being finished and entirely replaced with a VFX option.
We’ve spoken to numerous visual effects artists who all say the same thing: meeting the demands of this film means massive compromise – sets, actors, extras, dinosaurs and more will go VFX wherever possible, even if it would have been previously unwarranted and unwanted. The looming deadline means massive crunch with long hours, and realistically cannot be achieved with the quality expected out of Jurassic without massively expanding the films budged and bringing in more effects houses to collaborate. Ultimately, this is untested territory and unfortunately will effect the films original vision in unique ways, something we will be looking to understand further in the future. https://www.jurassicoutpost.com/jurassic-world-dominion-set-to-resume-filming-on-july-6
I really hope we don't get the highly compromised version of this movie just to meet a release date. Haven't they learned anything from JP3? - IllOrfanato wrote:
- No, God please no...
Jurassic World - 14-year long development hell, script woven over Stephen Spielberg ideas, rewritten few times and containing uneven effects and characters Fallen Kingdom - script rewritten, executives argue with director, marketing team spoils movie with trailers and merch, 40 minutes of the movie is cut out Dominion - despite money spent, executives push towards effect/story comprimises in order to meet deadline
After my disappointment of FK I was positively surprised by Battle of Big Rock and now I read this sort of news. Jeeez, Universal - could you make at least one movie without producer interference? It's like Fox Studios over and over again... Fant4stic, Justice League, Rise Of Skywalker and now this. Hasn't Universal learned that rushed films suck? Really, they couldn't have simply delayed this? | |
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Spiegel Stegosaurus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:08 am | |
| Well it's really not a good sign but this is the movie Trevorrow really wanted to make, as he said, so I'm hopi g he pours his all into it to make up for lost time. | |
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dance2nite Sorna Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:17 pm | |
| The same people would have hated the film anyway regardless of if Covid happened or not so I don't see the problem with them filming it a few months later than scheduled & releasing it still in June next year as planned. They will have over 7 months of post-production if filming finishes in late October as scheduled.
If filming gets stopped again it will have to be delayed a year though. | |
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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:12 pm | |
| - dance2nite wrote:
- The same people would have hated the film anyway regardless of if Covid happened or not so I don't see the problem with them filming it a few months later than scheduled & releasing it still in June next year as planned. They will have over 7 months of post-production if filming finishes in late October as scheduled.
If filming gets stopped again it will have to be delayed a year though. That sounds like a VERY convenant excuse if this movie really does have the production issues that we fear it may have. | |
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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:49 am | |
| One other thing. Considering how pack 2021 will be movie wise, wouldn't it make more sense to delay this movie's release until 2022 and do the filming next year? Besides, as I said, rushed movies suck, and putting it in a year full of movies won't do it any favors either. | |
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dance2nite Sorna Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:01 pm | |
| Actually if it does release as planned in June 21, it will decimate the summer box office, there really isn't much else like Jurassic releasing... | |
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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:54 am | |
| - dance2nite wrote:
- Actually if it does release as planned in June 21, it will decimate the summer box office, there really isn't much else like Jurassic releasing...
Not with all the movies that were supposed to come out this year coming out next year. | |
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eagc7 Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:04 pm | |
| - dance2nite wrote:
- Actually if it does release as planned in June 21, it will decimate the summer box office, there really isn't much else like Jurassic releasing...
Yeah and plus it wont deal with that many movies, the only films that JW3 would compete with would be Kong and Venom, but Kong would be by its 4th weekennd when JW3 comes out, so it wont be much trouble as it would have made most of its money then. and JW3 would be in its 3rd weekend when Venom comes out, again by the time Venom comes out JW3 would've made most of its money. so JW in terms of competition will be fine in June 11, the other films being released closer to JW arent big blockbuster must see films. That is of course if there arent more delays, give more films could end up closer to JW3 date if other studios are forced to delay more films | |
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:50 pm | |
| Box office aside, the prospect of a rushed Jurassic with CGI extras and sets doesn't appeal to me personally. They won't have time to fine-tune the story either, in production or in re-shoots (remember Spielberg changed the ending of both JP and TLW while they were shooting).
I'd rather they just take their time and make a film that hopefully will not be comprised rather than rushing to meet a release date and the short-term "success" of the film coming out sooner (it's especially weird given how Trevorrow insisted on pushing the first JW back a year from its original release date in 2014). | |
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eagc7 Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:38 pm | |
| - Robotpo wrote:
- Box office aside, the prospect of a rushed Jurassic with CGI extras and sets doesn't appeal to me personally. They won't have time to fine-tune the story either, in production or in re-shoots (remember Spielberg changed the ending of both JP and TLW while they were shooting).
I'd rather they just take their time and make a film that hopefully will not be comprised rather than rushing to meet a release date and the short-term "success" of the film coming out sooner (it's especially weird given how Trevorrow insisted on pushing the first JW back a year from its original release date in 2014). Who knows maybe behind the scenes Colin is asking Universal for an extension and we dont know about it yet, but Universal as of now arent willing to push, though lets not rule out the possibillity that maybe theyw'll announce a new date on the day they resume filming. Though its also possble that despite missing 3 months or so, they maybe feel they can meet the deadline without any issues, i am sure they've done some post-production work on the scenes they filmed and maybe some scenes that were gonna be all CGI anyway Though if you do ask i do think resuming filming in July does still give the crew alot of time to properly work on the film, now if they push the filming into much much later, then yeah delay it, be it in Christmas 2021 or Early-Summer 2022. i mean this is not a Justice League situation in where Joss Whedon had to rewrite and reshoot the film with only 5 months till release, nor its a JP3 situation in where they had to start filming without a complete script Now lets all keep in mind you can still deliver a good movie with a shorter production frame, just as you can still deliver a bad movie with a longer production frame Now lets all keep in mind the original planned production shoot for Jurassic World 3 was 100 Dyas, which means the intended shooting frame is that of 3-4 months, so if they start by July, they'll be done by September-October, which gives plently of time to do Post-Production, it gives them 7 months of Post-Production, plenty of time to properly finish the film. | |
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dance2nite Sorna Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:09 pm | |
| Agreed with everything said in the above post, also Variety said filming is due to finish by late October (given there is no more production delays), so as said above 7 months is plenty of time for post-production. I would also guess ILM will work on the CGI as filming continues so once they have the scenes shot they will immediately begin working on the special effects. | |
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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:28 pm | |
| - Robotpo wrote:
- Box office aside, the prospect of a rushed Jurassic with CGI extras and sets doesn't appeal to me personally. They won't have time to fine-tune the story either, in production or in re-shoots (remember Spielberg changed the ending of both JP and TLW while they were shooting).
I'd rather they just take their time and make a film that hopefully will not be comprised rather than rushing to meet a release date and the short-term "success" of the film coming out sooner (it's especially weird given how Trevorrow insisted on pushing the first JW back a year from its original release date in 2014). Perhaps Universal has the 'glory year' of 2015 still in their heads and that they think that they can relive it next year. In any case, this really does cast a shadow. More so with so many movies that were supposed to be coming out this year moved to 2021. | |
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:42 pm | |
| Dodgson, we've got Dodgdon here. - Quote :
- Veteran character actor Campbell Scott has joined the cast of Jurassic World: Dominion as a key character from the original Jurassic Park, Collider has exclusively learned.
Sources say that Scott will play Lewis Dodgson...In "Jurassic World: Dominion", Dodgson has been promoted to CEO of Biosyn Genetics, but only time will tell whether the character proves to be the threequel’s big villain. Either way, Dodgson’s reemergence may serve as the catalyst for the return of the franchise’s three original heroes... https://collider.com/jurassic-world-3-lewis-dodgson-campbell-scott/ | |
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IllOrfanato Compsognathus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:48 pm | |
| I am very pleased to know, that we will have Dodgson in the movie.
That being said, I am prepared that his character arc will be displayed on the promo websites for the upcoming film, not the film itself. I really hope to be mistaken here. | |
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The Malone Society Pachycephalosaurus
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:35 pm | |
| - IllOrfanato wrote:
- I am very pleased to know, that we will have Dodgson in the movie.
That being said, I am prepared that his character arc will be displayed on the promo websites for the upcoming film, not the film itself. I really hope to be mistaken here. I am personally hoping that Dominion's viral marketing will include a website for Biosyn, where they pose as a benevolent company and Dodgson poses as a benevolent CEO. I think that could be really clever. | |
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:55 pm | |
| - The Malone Society wrote:
- IllOrfanato wrote:
- I am very pleased to know, that we will have Dodgson in the movie.
That being said, I am prepared that his character arc will be displayed on the promo websites for the upcoming film, not the film itself. I really hope to be mistaken here. I am personally hoping that Dominion's viral marketing will include a website for Biosyn, where they pose as a benevolent company and Dodgson poses as a benevolent CEO. I think that could be really clever. That has been my hope as well, and maybe it will have some frame of timeline for the company as well. Even show their current projects. Also maybe something like the Masrani site with the 'jurassic hacker' going into the code and showing what they have really been up to. The 'redacted' stuff. | |
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Trexbreakout Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:09 am | |
| Just rewatching JW... anyone else think that biosyn might be behind the radios being scrambled? | |
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:26 pm | |
| - Trexbreakout wrote:
- Just rewatching JW... anyone else think that biosyn might be behind the radios being scrambled?
Unsure. But I am thinking that Biosyn could very well have been the people that Hoskins was on the phone with when the group interrupts him in the lab at the end. | |
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rommegrot Embryo
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:21 am | |
| Have you guys seen the new set photos? What do you think? Back to Sorna perhaps? | |
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:12 pm | |
| Link please?
Also: https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1140839-the-batman-jurassic-world-more-resuming-uk-filming | |
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rommegrot Embryo
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:18 pm | |
| Jurassic_world_fandom at Instagram. Its a storyboard there and everything. | |
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:26 pm | |
| https://www.instagram.com/jurassic_world_fandom/?hl=en
It does look Sorna-ish, but it could also be woods near Lockwood Manor? Weren't some of the TLW scenes on Sorna shot in Northern CA (the redwoods specifically)?
I really hope they don't go back to an island AGAIN when they spent so much time setting up a story on the mainland in FK and BaBR.
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:13 pm | |
| - Robotpo wrote:
- https://www.instagram.com/jurassic_world_fandom/?hl=en
It does look Sorna-ish, but it could also be woods near Lockwood Manor? Weren't some of the TLW scenes on Sorna shot in Northern CA (the redwoods specifically)?
I really hope they don't go back to an island AGAIN when they spent so much time setting up a story on the mainland in FK and BaBR.
I have a feeling that we might only see island in opening titles, or in some sort of flashback. | |
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:49 pm | |
| ^^ That I'd be fine with.
Also, new comments from Trevorrow on filming here: https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1140966-jurassic-world-dominion-director-discusses-resuming-production | |
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dance2nite Sorna Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:36 pm | |
| By the sounds of Trevorrow's comments they will make the June 2021 date baring no more production delays, good news!! | |
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rommegrot Embryo
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| Subject: Re: General Jurassic World: Dominion News Thread v1.0 Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:52 pm | |
| Can we all sit down and discuss alle the rumor/leaks from Instagram? Jurassic_world_fandom post leaks everyday. I dont know how much i can say here, but its very cool to read. | |
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