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PostSubject: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 am

Hello everyone. I come with information on the new dinosaur designs from Jurassic World: Dominion, as well as various plot threads. These come via a leaker who has an established track record, henceforth referred to as "the source" to avoid attracting attention to him. Many of you may already know who I'm referring to. His own source is confident that interviews and set visits will confirm these leaks with time. This post will be split into four segments, so feel free to scroll down to the backstory if you don't care about dinosaur details. Bare with me, because the amount of leaked information is huge!

Part 1 - Dinosaur Species
First off, the new species and their descriptions. Some of these designs were corroborated by toy leaks yesterday, specifically the Pyroraptor and Dimetrodon. Besides the source's track record, this is another sign in favor of these leaks being true. The new designs are said to be inspired by James Gurney, author of the Dinotopia series.

Giganotosaurus (codenamed "Giant Dino" by Mattel) went through various designs before the current one was settled on. It was originally "monster-ish" with dark colors, similar to its appearance in Dino Crisis 2 but more accurate. This design was scrapped and replaced with a brighter design, sporting green and dirtish yellow colors. There was a design with protofeathers, but the final version instead has spikes and osteoderms that run from its head to its tail. It is said to be "like a larger T. rex" with a longer snout, but "less robust and more athletic." The source says that it has various scars, and compares it to the T. rex buck from TLW. Overall, the leaked plushie lines up with what is described here.

BioSyn's Deinonychus (codenamed "Speed Dino" by Mattel) is said to be in an interesting position lore-wise, which will be explained later on as part of the plot. It has three variants, which were given biome-based codenames during production. Each of these variants are based on a past Velociraptor design: TLW's males, and JP3's males and females. Two of these were already seen in set leaks from Malta. They are bigger and "more maleficent-looking" than Blue. Deinonychus are planned to replace Velociraptor as the antagonistic dromaeosaur in future films, so "don't be surprised" when Blue is still said to be the last of her kind.

BioSyn's Pyroraptor (codenamed "Fire Dino" by Mattel) also went through various designs. It was originally fully feathered and "quite beautiful." The current design has less feathers, but still has some. It looks like a phoenix with shades of red and blue, and it is said that research into birds of prey was made for creating its design. It is also smaller than the other dromaeosaur species. All of this lines up with the plushie and chibi figure leaked earlier yesterday, which heavily corroborates these leaks. Pyroraptor is said to be the new character dinosaur for this film, ala Blue and Stiggy. More information will be provided as part of the plot.

BioSyn's Therizinosaurus (codenamed "Slasher Dino" by Mattel) is likely to be a disappointment. Unlike most depictions in modern media, it lacks feathers and has "quills" instead. It is said to resemble a reptile more than a bird, with curved scythes similar to its appearances in Ludia's mobile games. Therizinosaurus is said to be green and orange, with blue and black details.

BioSyn's Quetzalcoatlus is described as being very similar in design to its appearance in JW1's pitch trailer, but with elements of the JP3 Pteranodon. It is said to be "dangerous, scary, and majestic" with bat-like wings and crow-like eyes. They are "elegant but weird," and more information will be provided as part of the plot.

Plesiosaurus (codenamed "Nessie"- make of this what you will) is likely to be another disappointing design. Its head is said to resemble that of an anaconda's. There are two variations. One is black and white resembling an orca, and the other is a muddied green and blue. More information will be provided as part of the plot.

Dimetrodon is said to have been added and removed from the film multiple times, but eventually made the cut. Its initial design is said to have resembled that of the JP1 Dilophosaurus, but the final design has two variations. One is said to be green and orange (like the one in the Lockwood Manor in FK,) and the other is said to be red and orange. The latter design matches up with the leaked plushie from yesterday, further corroborating these leaks.

There are 1-2 more major dinosaurs that are not described, and the source does not make it clear whether they're separate or the same thing. One is yet another dromaeosaur (codenamed "Mirror Dino" by Mattel,) and the other is genetically modified but not a hybrid. "Mirror Dino" was previously hinted by the source to be Utahraptor, while the latter is said to be inspired by the fictional "Excavaraptor" from John Sayles' cancelled Jurassic Park 4 script.
There are even more new dinosaurs, but are said to literally have background roles. This includes the officially revealed Lystrosaurus, as well as Microceratus and possibly Dreadnoughtus.

Next up, the returning species. The source claims that various dinosaurs are returning from previous films, starting from JW1 specifically. Hard confirmed returning species are as follows: Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, Nasutoceratops, Compsognathus, Stegosaurus, Apatosaurus, Dimorphodon, Triceratops, Brachiosaurus, Mosasaurus, and Baryonyx.

Other dinosaurs from previous films are mentioned by the source as being likely to return, but he has not heard them specifically mentioned yet. These species are as follows: Sinoceratops, Stygimoloch, Carnotaurus, Parasaurolophus, Allosaurus, Gallimimus, Ankylosaurus, Pteranodon, and Ceratosaurus(!)

The source claims that various dinosaur designs are already out there, but the people who have them are holding them off.

I have no idea how they'll fit so many species into one film, so don't ask me. I'm just a messenger.

Part 2 - The Backstory
Dominion is said to tie the previous five films together in ways that will likely prove controversial. Trevorrow wasn't kidding when he said that all six films are like one storyline, as it feels like Jurassic Park 6 just as much as it is Jurassic World 3. Obviously the line between the backstory and main plot isn't entirely clear, but I will do my best to split them into separate sections.

BioSyn gained access to the cloning technology after the events of JP1, when their agents sent a team of spies to retrieve Dennis Nedry's Barbasol can. This will be shown in a flashback scene, explaining the set photo depicting the Visitor Center's lab. BioSyn's cloning technology is said to be inferior to InGen's. Their dinosaurs are more accurate but have behavior issues, so they seek to improve them- more on that later in Part 3.

After his fallout with Hammond, Lockwood still "used to hold a power" on InGen and their properties. He got ownership of FK's Sanctuary island after discussing it with Hammond, which is why it was never mentioned before.

Hammond knew about BioSyn's antics and lied in TLW. Rather than wanting to preserve the dinosaurs on Isla Sorna, he just wanted to prevent BioSyn from accessing more of InGen's technologies. This is the real motivation for the establishment of Sorna as a biological preserve. Ludlow took advantage of the situation to boot Hammond out from InGen and become the CEO. Although this will inevitably be controversial with fans, it explains why Hammond seemingly flip-flopped when he entrusted Masrani with his dying wish of opening Jurassic World.

Hammond discovered everything about BioSyn and Dodgson but died before being able to tell it to Masrani. Before Masrani could step in, Dodgson took advantage of Hammond's death to gather various titles from InGen, gaining access to the islands in the process. Wu initially worked for BioSyn after Hammond's death, but couldn't make use of their limited technologies. He was convinced to switch over to Masrani Global and make use of their superior technology.

BioSyn was behind everything in the new films. Despite having access to the islands, they couldn't have direct access to the research or the dinosaurs. They pulled the strings behind the fall of Jurassic World, as taking down the park was necessary for them to gain access to Masrani Global's technologies. "Various incidents out of the islands" (I'm not sure what this means) were provoked by BioSyn in order to blame Masrani Global and destroy their image.

Dodgson raised his reputation with InGen Security, partnering with Hoskins. Wu "couldn't accept cloning only dinosaurs for attractions," since he knew that he could go further to human cloning. Masrani didn't approve of Wu's research. Since Wu felt like his creativity was being limited, he began working with Hoskins and BioSyn behind the scenes.

Hoskins was suborned by BioSyn to cover up various illegal activities, such as the poaching and exporting of dinosaurs out of the islands (plural.) The captured dinosaurs were researched and had samples taken from them, before being sold on the black market.

Dodgson demanded the creation of the Indominus rex, in order to expose Masrani's genetics to the black market. This led to the downfall of Jurassic World- an inside operation between BioSyn, Hoskins, and Wu. However, another company (implied to be Mantah Corp from Camp Cretaceous) "stepped in and complicated things."

BioSyn were presumably the ones who evacuated Wu and his technologies. They achieved full control of the park research after the fall of Jurassic World. The source does not state whether or not Mills worked for BioSyn, but I'd consider it a possibility. After Lockwood's death, his buildings and properties were sold at an auction and bought by Dodgson for BioSyn.

Dinosaurs not present in the JW films- at least Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus in particular- were potentially culled by BioSyn in order to remove trace elements. This will make more sense later.

Part 3 - The Main Story
Now for the film's plot itself, rather than just the backstory and retcons. The source didn't provide a detailed, chronological plot, but this should still help you piece together a basic idea of the film's premise.

According to the source, "We will see many scenes of cruelty and abuse. An apology to what happens with real endangered animals." "JWD feels more like a sequel of JP rather than FK, can easily ignore JP3 and JW1 events. Thanks to the good reception of FK's horror elements, the claustrophobic and tense moments are back, they know this is on the roots of JP. Dodgson and BioSyn are heavily inspired by JURASSIC PARK PART 2: THE CHAOS CONTINUES. VARIOUS dialogues and scenes from BioSyn will take direct inspiration from this game."

After the events of FK, BioSyn is the new leading company with dinosaurs. They take the responsibility of making sure the escaped dinosaurs don't cause trouble in urban regions, creating a false good image with the public. They use their public image to hide dirty activities, such as the dino black market, illegal hunting, the ownership of particular zoos, etc.

Maisie is considered missing, and Owen and Claire are accused of kidnapping her, killing Lockwood, and freeing the dinosaurs. Wu faked his death with the help of Dodgson, so he could continue his work and give BioSyn credit for "innovative" or accurate dinosaurs. All of BioSyn's previous species are alternative versions stolen from InGen, modified by Wu to look authentic. In reality, they're poorly modified with behavior issues.

Wu "is blind by ambition and is doing many actions without thinking of the consequences." Maisie is kidnapped due to being his first "perfect" clone. BioSyn's plan is to try to reverse engineer her to develop their own cloning technique.

BioSyn has two laboratories. One is for the public in a snowy region, "similar to the Starkiller of SW Ep 7." Believe it or not, the other lab is a classified one on Isla Sorna! This is probably due to fan demand for the island's return. The latter is where Wu made his innovative dinos, known as "super dinosaurs."

Besides the secret BioSyn lab, Sorna is now turned into a "Jurassic Sanctuary" (placeholder name.) The source does not specify what this means exactly. However, as another addition of my own, the "dinosaur habitat operated by a global corporation" mentioned in the leaked official synopsis sounds very likely to refer to Sorna.

The "super dinosaurs" are more intelligent and sociable, similar to Blue in general. Pyroraptor is almost certainly one of these, since the source claims that it is "extremely intelligent and will likely become the fanbase's new favorite one, with a role similar to Blue but with his own takes." Another assumption of my own is that BioSyn kidnapped Maisie in order to improve these even more.

"There's some type of dinosaur training program, where certain species are forced to do absurd things to be domesticated." Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that either.

The Deinonychus are based on old Velociraptors from Sorna, which were artificially evolved with the intention of being "better" and more accurate. This explains why they use raptor color schemes from TLW and JP3. However, they ended up being larger, more violent, and more difficult to contain due to BioSyn's then-limited technology. (As an aside, the original JP3 raptors are mentioned to be a naturally evolved variant, which explains their differences from those in the first two films.)

"BioSyn has no population control, with males and females, the dinos started to spread extremely fast, since they're taken without any control." Not entirely sure what this is referring to.

Blue is said to not appear for most of the film, as she is captured and held hostage on Sorna by BioSyn. The reasoning behind this is that she's not only the last of her kind, but also pregnant (presumably through parthenogenesis from her monitor lizard DNA.)

There is a subplot of the T. rex being hunted down in California: "Rexy claimed territory nearby a highly populated area, causing various problems and incidents. and attracting the attention of the police With that being said, they set a reward for whoever captures or kills her. Night and helicopter scenes are part of people hunting down Rexy in the woods. During the chase Rexy ends up by a Drive-In with many cars and people watching a classic movie."

The original trio of Grant, Sattler, and Malcolm are back "so this movie supports the new movie standard," whatever that means. Hopefully their roles are still major and meaningful.

There's a subplot of Grant figuring out "the mystery of raptors understanding humans." I take this to mean that he's the one who figures out why Blue, the Pyroraptor, and possibly others are relatively tame and docile. This would be fitting, given his past with raptors.

Through various perspectives, the skeletons in Jurassic World's closet are revealed. This includes the "shady shit that turned around" the "raptor squad," Indominus rex, and Indoraptor. Think of Eddie's speech in Camp Cretaceous. It is also revealed that over the years, BioSyn has given hunters and rich people access to the islands for sport hunting, research, military research, and more.

A black market scene takes place on Malta, which is where some previously leaked set photos were taken. Various dinosaurs are freed and go nuts. This includes the leaked Deinonychus, which chase Owen through the streets while he's on his motorcycle.

The Plesiosaurus appear in a Malta scene with boats, but the source does not specify anything else about their role. It is stated that there are multiple Quetzalcoatlus, and that they create a big mess after they are freed.

The climax of the film is, most likely, in the lab on Sorna. Set photos indicate that Owen, Claire, Maisie, Grant, Sattler, Malcolm, Wu, and various new characters are all present.

Wu "was never a villain, but only acted on his own will in favor of science." He is injured while trying to save Maisie from the "Mirror Dinos." The set photos confirm that he has a broken arm during the climax, but it isn't mentioned whether this is before or after he saves Maisie. The source does not mention whether he lives or dies.

Dodgson ends up being killed by his own "evil raptor squad." The source does not specify whether it consists of Deinonychus or "Mirror Dinos," but he does specify that it is lead by Blue at that point in the film.

The source never mentions this, but I thought I should bring it up. Sam Neil mentioned in an interview that, at the start of the film, Grant and Sattler haven't seen eachother in many years. The set photos confirm that they end up kissing, so get ready for Degler to be NTR'd.

"This movie is a new era in a way, the dinos are the antagonists [and so for the NEXT MOVIES], the idea is to make the InGen dinosaurs get forgotten in the following years, and the paleo accurate designs become the new stars."

Part 4 - Extras (not Dominion)
The source also provided some information on Camp Cretaceous: "E750 already has its design on the hands of some people, completely different from what we saw so far, much more "monster" than dinosaur, similar to indom and indo, will be leaked soon, around 2-3 weeks. He was created by Wu demanded by Mantah Corp. He's inspired by the Slasher from Terra Nova. 5 seasons, the third in the end of this semester, 4th on the end of the year [opening up JWD's marketing through a special event] and the 5th and last on early 2022, after the first JWD trailer."

And on Jurassic World Evolution: "JWE2 will be revealed THIS YEAR during a Microsoft event, for various platforms, with release next to JWD, teasing various JWD animals on it."

And lastly, this is not from the source. It's the official leaked synopsis that I mentioned earlier: "When young Maisie is abducted by dino-poachers, Owen and Claire set out to find and rescue her, with their journey taking them to a dinosaur habitat operated by a global corporation with a possibly sinister  agenda... that's even now being investigated by Alan Grant and Ellie Sattler."
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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 6:26 am

If all of this is true, I have very mixed feelings about this... As soon as I read this quote:

"JWD feels more like a sequel of JP rather than FK, can easily ignore JP3 and JW1 events."

I was all like "Oh boy...here we go yet AGAIN with another sequel that ignores TLW and JP3 and only has nods to the first JP..."

But then I read about how Isla Sorna should play a significant role in the movie and how we should see plenty of it on the climax of the movie and that kinda makes me a bit calm again.

It seems Sorna still has dinosaurs wich is something fans wanted. But on the other hand, the fact that fans had to demand Sorna to appear in this trilogy kinda tells me that their plan all along was to just continue to ignore it and ignore anything and everything TLW and JP3 related (but that is just me maybe reading too much into it):

Also, I REALLY hope this not just another film in wich Rexy is the only T Rex around. If we are going to Sorna and we never get to see Buck, Doe or at the very least their son Junior then it would be very odd to just have old Rexy for an entire trilogy. Like come on Colin and Co.... It is not a risk to bring back dinosaur or characters from TLW. There was no backlash to that movie so there will be no backlash by having dinosaurs or characters form TLW back. The only really unpopular characters from the first trilogy were the Kirbys. The only dinosaur from the franchise that is really hated is the Spinosaurus. But those are all from JP3.

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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2021 12:41 pm

On the one hand, it certainly sounds better then JW:FK. And it is nice to see it come back to it's roots and the fact that the outrage and questions about Sorna are getting explained on film and not on those dumb sites.

On the other hand, it just seems too late that we're getting Sorna, more accurate dinosaurs, and the franchise going back to it's roots now when all of this should have happened in the first JW movie. And I can't help but wonder how they plan to explain how the military didn't wipe out most of the dinosaurs one the mainland.

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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeTue Mar 09, 2021 8:50 am

Interesting! Did he say anything about Spinosaurus? I have heard a lack of rumors that it should be included. Anyway, very cool that Isla Sorna is part of the film 😃
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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeThu Mar 11, 2021 6:43 pm

Oh, come on guys, this is obviously pure fan-fic. Don't encourage him.
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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeThu Mar 11, 2021 6:45 pm

Why do you say that?
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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeThu Mar 11, 2021 6:51 pm

No named source/link, no evidence, way too much detail, too much like what a fan would make up. There's one of these posted at least once a month on a fan board/Reddit or whatever, it's always made up.

You can tell because (possibly) genuine spoilers are like one/two sentences and generally vague. Remember when the dino-auction and descriptions of the stiggy/bary/carno from FK were leaked and they were like one sentence each?
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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeFri Mar 12, 2021 12:43 am

Ah, i guess you right. I always gets so exited when things like this comes out. 😜
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PostSubject: JWD Leaks   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeSat Apr 24, 2021 2:04 pm

I really hope the Spinosaurus returns in Dominion, considering how loved it is by 80% of the Fanbase. He is a badass Dinosaur
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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeTue Apr 27, 2021 4:11 pm

I knew pretty much everything about GOT S8, TROS , and GvK due to leaks months before I watched them. They were detailed and updated throughout but were all proven true.

This leak could be true as well. I'm less skeptical of leaks now but still got to take everything with a pinch of salt until proven true.

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PostSubject: Re: Major plot leaks!   Major plot leaks! Icon_minitimeTue Apr 27, 2021 5:34 pm

Dr. Wu wrote:
I knew pretty much everything about GOT S8, TROS , and GvK due to leaks months before I watched them. They were detailed and updated throughout but were all proven true.

This leak could be true as well. I'm less skeptical of leaks now but still got to take everything with a pinch of salt until proven true.

A similar thing happened with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. There was this website called making Star Wars wich had leaked the entire plot back in April or May of 2015 and when people finally saw the movie in December of 2015 it was an almost exact match to what they had written.

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Great, another movie I'll walk out of feeling like the franchise is dead, just like Fallen Kingdom. What they're doing with Hammond is like a mom coming to her son and telling him his dad wasn't a hero but was actually an abusive, psychotic, cheating drunkard and she lied for years to keep that image out of his head. Slap to the damn nuts.
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Megatronus Rex wrote:
Great, another movie I'll walk out of feeling like the franchise is dead, just like Fallen Kingdom. What they're doing with Hammond is like a mom coming to her son and telling him his dad wasn't a hero but was actually an abusive, psychotic, cheating drunkard and she lied for years to keep that image out of his head. Slap to the damn nuts.

I understand you because that is exactly how I felt after both Jurassic Park 3 and Jurassic World.

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So far the Jurassic World films are what I wanted for a second trilogy though I may be in the minority.

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Dr. Wu wrote:
So far the Jurassic World films are what I wanted for a second trilogy though I may be in the minority.

There are plenty of people who genuinely like them.

Both Jurassic World and Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. And I hate Jurassic World with great passion. But having read countless reviews,articles,Twitter posts, Facebook groups, forums and message boards, I have to say that the general consensus of Jurassic World seems to be a very mixed bag. It appears that around half of the fanbase likes it as a fun popcorn flick and the other half really hates it for quite a number of reasons. There was a similar reaction to it among the general public. Around half of the general public appears to like it as a fun popcorn flick while the other half of the general public really hates it for quite a number of different reasons.

So there is no clear minority with the general consensus of Jurassic World. There is no clear majority either. It is not loved by a clear majority (like some claim) but those who really hate it are more of a half than a clear majority.

Similar with Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. There appears to be no clear majority or minority or at least that what it seems (based again on reading countless reviews, articles, Twitter posts, Facebook grouos, forums and message boards). There are plenty of fans who liked it but many others were very very disappointed by it for quite a few reasons.

The Last Jedi, now THAT is a movie hated by a clear majority of both the hardcore fanbase and the general public hehe.



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Megatronus Rex wrote:
Great, another movie I'll walk out of feeling like the franchise is dead, just like Fallen Kingdom. What they're doing with Hammond is like a mom coming to her son and telling him his dad wasn't a hero but was actually an abusive, psychotic, cheating drunkard and she lied for years to keep that image out of his head. Slap to the damn nuts.

You can throw in Malcolm's treatment in JW:FK in there too, at least to a degree. To be honest, I expect VERY mediocre treatment of all the returning characters. Even if this does right the ship after JW:FK, I just think it's gonna be too little too late.


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So far the Jurassic World films are what I wanted for a second trilogy though I may be in the minority.

There are plenty of people who genuinely like them.

Both Jurassic World and Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. And I hate Jurassic World with great passion. But having read countless reviews,articles,Twitter posts, Facebook groups, forums and message boards, I have to say that the general consensus of Jurassic World seems to be a very mixed bag. It appears that around half of the fanbase likes it as a fun popcorn flick and the other half really hates it for quite a number of reasons. There was a similar reaction to it among the general public. Around half of the general public appears to like it as a fun popcorn flick while the other half of the general public really hates it for quite a number of different reasons.

So there is no clear minority with the general consensus of Jurassic World. There is no clear majority either. It is not loved by a clear majority (like some claim) but those who really hate it are more of a half than a clear majority.

Similar with Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. There appears to be no clear majority or minority or at least that what it seems (based again on reading countless reviews, articles, Twitter posts, Facebook grouos, forums and message boards). There are plenty of fans who liked it but many others were very very disappointed by it for quite a few reasons.

The Last Jedi, now THAT is a movie hated by a clear majority of both the hardcore fanbase and the general public hehe.

The first JW was liked at the time, but now I've noticed that a lot of people have turned on it like they did with TFA. I still like the first JW, but even I must admit that it hasn't aged well. JW:FK is a divisive movie among the fanbase, but I've noticed that many old-guard fans like myself and movie buffs outright hate the movie.

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I grew up watching the original trilogy and I'm a fan of JW:FK. So far I don't hate none of the films of the franchise though I love some more than others.

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Great, another movie I'll walk out of feeling like the franchise is dead, just like Fallen Kingdom. What they're doing with Hammond is like a mom coming to her son and telling him his dad wasn't a hero but was actually an abusive, psychotic, cheating drunkard and she lied for years to keep that image out of his head. Slap to the damn nuts.

You can throw in Malcolm's treatment in JW:FK in there too, at least to a degree. To be honest, I expect VERY mediocre treatment of all the returning characters. Even if this does right the ship after JW:FK, I just think it's gonna be too little too late.


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So far the Jurassic World films are what I wanted for a second trilogy though I may be in the minority.

There are plenty of people who genuinely like them.

Both Jurassic World and Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. And I hate Jurassic World with great passion. But having read countless reviews,articles,Twitter posts, Facebook groups, forums and message boards, I have to say that the general consensus of Jurassic World seems to be a very mixed bag. It appears that around half of the fanbase likes it as a fun popcorn flick and the other half really hates it for quite a number of reasons. There was a similar reaction to it among the general public. Around half of the general public appears to like it as a fun popcorn flick while the other half of the general public really hates it for quite a number of different reasons.

So there is no clear minority with the general consensus of Jurassic World. There is no clear majority either. It is not loved by a clear majority (like some claim) but those who really hate it are more of a half than a clear majority.

Similar with Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. There appears to be no clear majority or minority or at least that what it seems (based again on reading countless reviews, articles, Twitter posts, Facebook grouos, forums and message boards). There are plenty of fans who liked it but many others were very very disappointed by it for quite a few reasons.

The Last Jedi, now THAT is a movie hated by a clear majority of both the hardcore fanbase and the general public hehe.

The first JW was liked at the time, but now I've noticed that a lot of people have turned on it like they did with TFA. I still like the first JW, but even I must admit that it hasn't aged well. JW:FK is a divisive movie among the fanbase, but I've noticed that many old-guard fans like myself and movie buffs outright hate the movie.

There were some positive reactions when Jurassic World premiered back in 2015. But it was also quite hated from the star by botha significant amount of fans and people from the general public. In fact on the hardcore fanbase many fans were not that thrilled with the raptors being used as "pets" or them being on the side of the good guys. Also many fans felt that the final battle (Rex Raptor Mosa VS Indominus) felt unrealistinc a way too much like Jurassic Avengers and others (myself included) felt that final battle was very very unsatisfying (not giving T Rexes proper redemption by having it once again defeated in seconds and having the Mosasaurus being the one to actually win the battle) after a 14 year wait. Among the general public Jurassic World was often called "dumb" for the whole using dinosaurs on the military and other plot decisions.

But yeah, in the years since (2016 towards 2020) the negativity and hate are significantly more prominent than the positivity (wich I love because it has only helped to highlight even more how good and great The Lost World is hehe. Making it even more clear now that it is indeed the best sequel in the franchise).

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I don't see the Raptors in JW as pets. It's like someone trying to train a lion or tiger. Sure they may be more domesticated than wild lions and tigers but that doesn't mean the "domesticated" lion or tiger won't ever turn on you.

That's how I see the raptors in JW.

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I don't see the Raptors in JW as pets. It's like someone trying to train a lion or tiger. Sure they may be more domesticated than wild lions and tigers but that doesn't mean the "domesticated" lion or tiger won't ever turn on you.

That's how I see the raptors in JW.

I know but some fans saw it that way and that notion or belief was seen even more after Fallen Kingdom. Many fans now want the Raptors to go back to being like their JP, TLW and JP3 selves. When they are just lethal antagonists saved for specific scenes on the movie.

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Someone on Reddit pointed out that the description for Wu working for Biosyn contradicts the established lore from the Masrani/DPG websites, as in he couldn't have worked -- even briefly -- for Biosyn after Hammond's death because he was always with InGen, which was then immediately bought by Masrani.
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Someone on Reddit pointed out that the description for Wu working for Biosyn contradicts the established lore from the Masrani/DPG websites, as in he couldn't have worked -- even briefly -- for Biosyn after Hammond's death because he was always with InGen, which was then immediately bought by Masrani.
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If these leaks are real, he switched to Byosin when Masrani bought INGEN, but was then convinced to come back. It doesn't contradict anything afaik

I don't think the timeline we've been given allows for it, unless he worked there for like 2 days, which just seems like why even mention it then.
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Hey you guys, this need you all have with wanting to keep circularly arguing this same jaded and overly entitled opinion is chasing people off with your constant complaining. Do you know what would be nice? You just let people HAVE their own damn opinion and stop pushing conformity. The jaded movie fan trope is tired, old, and worn out as well as complete and utter bullshit that needs to become extinct fast.  

There used to be an old saying that needs to return that you should all start doing, if you have nothing nice to say (or useful) then shut your damn mouth.

This isn't a conspiracy this is me tired of seeing people arguing about the first batch of new material (and only material) that they cannot control and have no input in because they are not making the movie and need to stop crying about their petty and often idiotic head canons.

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"During the chase Rexy ends up by a Drive-In with many cars and people watching a classic movie."

I guess these spoilers are true now we know what's in the IMAX exclusive scene... Shocked
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Someone on Reddit pointed out that the description for Wu working for Biosyn contradicts the established lore from the Masrani/DPG websites, as in he couldn't have worked -- even briefly -- for Biosyn after Hammond's death because he was always with InGen, which was then immediately bought by Masrani.
You do realize he easily could've been working for them behind ingen's back, which fits with Wu's unscrupulous character. I doubt he has an loyalties to a specific company. Even if it was contradictory the JW films are full of retcons so this wouldn't be out of the norm.

Since this leak correctly predicted the t rex attacking a drive-in theater it has some credence to it, which isn't surprising considering fallen kingdom also had a very similar leak. The creature designs seem par for the course, I always predicted that even with their claims of "accuracy" they would remain mostly the same just with some feathers tacked on.


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Okay, I do dislike some of the ideas in this plot leak but it's far from the disaster it could be. I just don't get that crushing feeling I got reading The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker plot leaks. To be completely honest, I actually LIKE a lot of the ideas in here, especially those that fix the lore and bind it together. It's one of the better ways to move past Fallen Kingdom for those that weren't big fans, but doesn't insult it for those who were fans.

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Okay, I do dislike some of the ideas in this plot leak but it's far from the disaster it could be. I just don't get that crushing feeling I got reading The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker plot leaks. To be completely honest, I actually LIKE a lot of the ideas in here, especially those that fix the lore and bind it together. It's one of the better ways to move past Fallen Kingdom for those that weren't big fans, but doesn't insult it for those who were fans.

Don't like the idea of it was Dodgson all along?

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