Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:20 pm
CT-1138 wrote:
CNN is the KING of overdoing a story. It's a real pain because you don't get any actual news, you just get 5 people discussing the same subject over and over and over again. They're the only major news source I don't care to follow, and I follow most of them including both MSNBC and FOX News (I like to keep tabs on what the fringe sources out there). I mean, sure MSNBC and FOX are echo chambers for the left and the right respectively, but CNN is just a cave of people talking to each other about the same news story over and over and over. It's overkill. I'd rather listen to NPR or read the New York Times.
I wonder how long it will take/how low their ratings must get before people get fired. This can't last forever, no matter how long they continue to do this.
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:21 pm
Here's an interesting You Tube video about why we don't see action cartoons and animated cartoons anymore. It also talks a little bit about the decline of Saturday morning cartoons.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:09 pm
So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:39 pm
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So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.
Good stuff imho.
Seth McFarlane is a die-hard Star Trek fan, so you know he didn't want to screw it up. He even wanted to direct a Star Trek movie. I'm happy you like it. I'm not a big fan of Seth since much of his stuff is just needlessly cruel and nihilistic to me. It's to the point where some of his stuff is mean-spirited for the sake of it. But that's just me.
In any case, many Star Trek fans are more excited for this then they are for Star Trek: Discovery.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:53 pm
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Tyrant Lizard wrote:
So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.
Good stuff imho.
Seth McFarlane is a die-hard Star Trek fan, so you know he didn't want to screw it up. He even wanted to direct a Star Trek movie. I'm happy you like it. I'm not a big fan of Seth since much of his stuff is just needlessly cruel and nihilistic to me. It's to the point where some of his stuff is mean-spirited for the sake of it. But that's just me.
In any case, many Star Trek fans are more excited for this then they are for Star Trek: Discovery.
Normally I'd agree, but like I said earlier, this certainly didn't hit me as mean spirited. It's apparent that he has massive respect for the source material when you watch The Orville. It's not at dark or as meta as one would think it would be either. Sure, there are a few meta jabs, but basically, it's a comedic Star Trek series.
Discovery just seems way too different and up its own ass for me. I'll check it out regardless, but I don't have high hopes.
So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.
Good stuff imho.
Seth McFarlane is a die-hard Star Trek fan, so you know he didn't want to screw it up. He even wanted to direct a Star Trek movie. I'm happy you like it. I'm not a big fan of Seth since much of his stuff is just needlessly cruel and nihilistic to me. It's to the point where some of his stuff is mean-spirited for the sake of it. But that's just me.
In any case, many Star Trek fans are more excited for this then they are for Star Trek: Discovery.
Normally I'd agree, but like I said earlier, this certainly didn't hit me as mean spirited. It's apparent that he has massive respect for the source material when you watch The Orville. It's not at dark or as meta as one would think it would be either. Sure, there are a few meta jabs, but basically, it's a comedic Star Trek series.
Discovery just seems way too different and up its own ass for me. I'll check it out regardless, but I don't have high hopes.
I'm in a FB movie group called Midnight's Edge, which was founded on the trainwreck known as Fant4stic, and they've covered Discovery quite a bit. It's more of a mess then you think.
Worse yet, the show will take a cheap shot at Trump supporters. It looks like CBS is going for the SJW crowd like Sony did with GB2016. And it won't work. Sorry, but if they think they can pander to Millennials like this, they're wrong because at the same time, they are alienating the Millennials that ARE Star Trek fans that saw ST episodes during the 1980's, 1990's, and the early-mid 2000's. And let's not forget about how they're alienating their main audience as well.
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So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.
Good stuff imho.
Seth McFarlane is a die-hard Star Trek fan, so you know he didn't want to screw it up. He even wanted to direct a Star Trek movie. I'm happy you like it. I'm not a big fan of Seth since much of his stuff is just needlessly cruel and nihilistic to me. It's to the point where some of his stuff is mean-spirited for the sake of it. But that's just me.
In any case, many Star Trek fans are more excited for this then they are for Star Trek: Discovery.
Normally I'd agree, but like I said earlier, this certainly didn't hit me as mean spirited. It's apparent that he has massive respect for the source material when you watch The Orville. It's not at dark or as meta as one would think it would be either. Sure, there are a few meta jabs, but basically, it's a comedic Star Trek series.
Discovery just seems way too different and up its own ass for me. I'll check it out regardless, but I don't have high hopes.
I'm in a FB movie group called Midnight's Edge, which was founded on the trainwreck known as Fant4stic, and they've covered Discovery quite a bit. It's more of a mess then you think.
Worse yet, the show will take a cheap shot at Trump supporters. It looks like CBS is going for the SJW crowd like Sony did with GB2016. And it won't work. Sorry, but if they think they can pander to Millennials like this, they're wrong because at the same time, they are alienating the Millennials that ARE Star Trek fans that saw ST episodes during the 1980's, 1990's, and the early-mid 2000's. And let's not forget about how they're alienating their main audience as well.
The sad part? CBS is now trying to block early reviews of Star Trek Discovery! I think this proves the new series is a train wreck.
So The Orville debuted today. I thought it was great. Really captured the spirit of old Trek. The humor, while certainly funny, was more restrained than I thought it would be, which is a good thing imho. It let the Trek side of it shine through. And never once did it hit me as mean spirited in the way that something like "A Million Ways To Die In The West" did.
Good stuff imho.
Seth McFarlane is a die-hard Star Trek fan, so you know he didn't want to screw it up. He even wanted to direct a Star Trek movie. I'm happy you like it. I'm not a big fan of Seth since much of his stuff is just needlessly cruel and nihilistic to me. It's to the point where some of his stuff is mean-spirited for the sake of it. But that's just me.
In any case, many Star Trek fans are more excited for this then they are for Star Trek: Discovery.
Normally I'd agree, but like I said earlier, this certainly didn't hit me as mean spirited. It's apparent that he has massive respect for the source material when you watch The Orville. It's not at dark or as meta as one would think it would be either. Sure, there are a few meta jabs, but basically, it's a comedic Star Trek series.
Discovery just seems way too different and up its own ass for me. I'll check it out regardless, but I don't have high hopes.
I'm in a FB movie group called Midnight's Edge, which was founded on the trainwreck known as Fant4stic, and they've covered Discovery quite a bit. It's more of a mess then you think.
Worse yet, the show will take a cheap shot at Trump supporters. It looks like CBS is going for the SJW crowd like Sony did with GB2016. And it won't work. Sorry, but if they think they can pander to Millennials like this, they're wrong because at the same time, they are alienating the Millennials that ARE Star Trek fans that saw ST episodes during the 1980's, 1990's, and the early-mid 2000's. And let's not forget about how they're alienating their main audience as well.
The sad part? CBS is now trying to block early reviews of Star Trek Discovery! I think this proves the new series is a train wreck.
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:56 pm
Here's the recent news about Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Here's the recent news about Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville.
Thought it was a shitty move by CBS to put their new show as bait to get people to sign up for their streaming service. Also the entire show isn't even premiering at once its being split into two parts, which will release one part one month, the other part the other. This to try to get at least 20 bucks each from each subscriber since they will have to pay for at least 2 months just tow watch the show.
Also I read in the latest entertainment weekly. The captain isn't the 'main character' of Discovery! It's the first officer. (That lady in all the promos who was the only human to go to Vulcan academy or some thing)
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm
Sickle_Claw wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Here's the recent news about Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville.
Thought it was a shitty move by CBS to put their new show as bait to get people to sign up for their streaming service. Also the entire show isn't even premiering at once its being split into two parts, which will release one part one month, the other part the other. This to try to get at least 20 bucks each from each subscriber since they will have to pay for at least 2 months just tow watch the show.
Also I read in the latest entertainment weekly. The captain isn't the 'main character' of Discovery! It's the first officer. (That lady in all the promos who was the only human to go to Vulcan academy or some thing)
It makes you wonder what CBS will do once this crashes and burns and if they have any backup plans.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:32 am
"The Man in the High Castle" has been occupying my time recently. Highly recommend.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:06 am
Sickle_Claw wrote:
Also I read in the latest entertainment weekly. The captain isn't the 'main character' of Discovery! It's the first officer. (That lady in all the promos who was the only human to go to Vulcan academy or some thing)
Yeah, Sonequa Martin. She was a mainstay on The Walking Dead for a few years.
If her performance/character here is anything like what she did on TWD, we're in for a VERY boring main character. I mean, she's a decent enough actress, but from what I've seen she's completely and utterly charisma-less.
The Emmys hit a new low last Sunday. That and the key demo ratings was the worst.
Translation: Millennials are starting to get sick of the Trump bashing as well.
Also I loved how everyone suddenly turned on spicer the day after the show five minutes after they had publicly 'accepted' him.
These people are going to give Trump a second term and they don't even know it.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:30 am
So just finished pt 1 and 2 of the Orville pilot. I really liked it.... the interactions between the characters are good. And honestly, havent seen a Captain/First Officer interaction like this in a while on Trek.
(Still rooting for them to get together by the end lol) They are doing a pretty decent job with the side characters trying to make them likable I think its kind of working.
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Subject: Re: Let's Talk Television Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:53 am
Sickle_Claw wrote:
So just finished pt 1 and 2 of the Orville pilot. I really liked it.... the interactions between the characters are good. And honestly, havent seen a Captain/First Officer interaction like this in a while on Trek.
(Still rooting for them to get together by the end lol) They are doing a pretty decent job with the side characters trying to make them likable I think its kind of working.
I really dig The Orville, although I'll admit I enjoyed the pilot more than the second episode. I'm hoping that as time goes on they'll move further away from pop culture references. They seem kind of out of place to me :/
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