Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:56 pm
What room is that where Daenerys is standing in photo 4? And her clothes, contrast to the previous seasons is so striking. Makes you wonder whether she makes it to the throne by the end of the season already.
You know by the way, I kinda hope it's the Kingslayer who ultimately stabs Cersei out of that world after he finally realizes what a monster she is, it would be kind of poetic.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:00 pm
Mistral wrote:
You know by the way, I kinda hope it's the Kingslayer who ultimately stabs Cersei out of that world after he finally realizes what a monster she is, it would be kind of poetic.
I'd love that to happen, both in the series and in the books.
How ironic, since he had been stabbing Cersei repeatedly for many years.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:06 pm
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mistral wrote:
You know by the way, I kinda hope it's the Kingslayer who ultimately stabs Cersei out of that world after he finally realizes what a monster she is, it would be kind of poetic.
I'd love that to happen, both in the series and in the books.
How ironic, since he had been stabbing Cersei repeatedly for many years.
Right
It would also show the conclusion of Kingslayer story arc that started from season 2, you know that there is (some) good in him behind the cover, and he isn't gonna stand by in silent in every instance of madness. And Cersei certainly is swimming ever deeper into that madness, if it's even possible at this point. Sister and lover she may be to him, but at some point he must see the true light right? Furthermore obviously the Mad King comparisons, as well as the typical Shakespearean premises that would make it poetic.
Anyway, lamest way for Cersei to die would probably be if Arya would somehow make her way to King's Landing and get her revenge hand by hand. It would be bit too cliche.
I doubt it's Daenerys (or her minions) who kills her, as they've never even met and rarely spoken of each other. There would be little emotional impact in that. Same with Jon Snow.
Tyrion is possibility, but he already killed his father (guess mother at birth too), doing same to the sister... ehh. And also, Jaime would kill him even harder for that.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:10 pm
I think Cersei will help take out the white walkers and be falsely remembered as a hero in some way, no matter how she dies. I saw a bunch of people on Reddit predicting that in some way. I feel that would fit with the "unfair" factor of the series.
Here was the quote. "It's the kind of playing with story and perception that both GRRM and D&D love."
Also I think Jon is in the crypts under winterfell.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:15 pm
I think it would make more sense for season 7 to concentrate dealing with the whole throne deal once and for all, ultimately leading to Cerse's fall and Daenerys inheriting the throne, and leave season 8 for the white walkers and finalizing everything. If it's "bit of both" in both seasons it's gonna be less coherent me thinks.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:27 pm
Well
Absolutely massive spoilers. Don't read unless you want to know about that subject.
Spoiler :
Apparently the wall coming down ends the season with Cersei untouched. From what I've read on free folk.
"Meeting at the dragonpit with basically everyone. They demonstrate the reality of the white walkers and it terrifies Cersei (apparently the Mountain[or the Hound] chops up the wight and it keeps moving, Jon shows them the only way to kill it is with dragonglass or fire). She tells them she will send forces to help defeat the undead, but admits to Jamie she was lying. She wants the undead to clear out as many of her enemies as possible."
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:28 pm
Alright, I won't read
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:30 pm
Probably a good choice. I kinda wish I didn't know every event of S7.... you know I feel like I know MORE ahead of time than when the books were out somehow lol.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:34 pm
I feel lucky I haven't been spoiled of anything in the show's entire run so far*. Mainly because I haven't spent time on social media or read articles regarding the subject.
*Well other than the obvious "Jon Snow is not dead", but no-one would've really been naive enough to believe he was dead anyway right. It was nothing shocking like Ned Stark or Red Wedding or Oberyn etc
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:13 pm
Kingslayer talks about the Cersei theory me and apparently others hope/expect for https://winteriscoming.net/2017/04/25/nikolaj-coster-waldau-theory-jaime-will-kill-cersei-absolutely-makes-sense/
Also, those salaries lol https://winteriscoming.net/2017/04/25/five-game-thrones-actors-reportedly-earning-2-million-per-episode-seasons-7-8/
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu May 04, 2017 10:00 pm
Yeah, as I said on the other thread, not particularly excited by that prospect, especially if it it means more than one series to be produced at a time. One I can take, if the context is good.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Wed May 24, 2017 10:16 am
Some more pics... nothing really earth shattering http://ew.com/tv/game-of-thrones-season-7-exclusive-new-photos/dracarys-daenerys-emilia-clarke-dragons-are-enormous-in-season-7-and-ready-for-war-in-this-jaw-dropping-first-look-battle-image-more-exclusive-new-photos-ahead
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu May 25, 2017 6:17 am
It's here! Real goosebumps!
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:46 pm
So in the new trailer someone just pointed this out to me!
He's huge!!!
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:16 pm
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of fans with more.... conservative leanings were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:22 pm
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of (older, right-wing) "fans" were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
Besides, even if there was a minority in the show, people would be screaming bloody murder if he got killed.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:25 pm
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of fans with more.... conservative leanings were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:31 pm
Tyrant Lizard wrote:
BarrytheOnyx wrote:
Mr John Boyega has greatly disappointed me today...
John Boyega slams "lack of diversity" on Game of Thrones
To quote: "There are no black people on Game of Thrones. You don't see one black person in Lord of the Rings. I ain't paying money to always see one type of person on-screen! Because you see different people from different backgrounds, different cultures, every day."
Boyega, dude, you are aware that The Lord of the Rings was written by an early 20th century gentleman who wanted to create a mythology for England? And George R.R. Martin wanted to create his own work of fantasy that was steeped in Medieval European history? And therefore the fact that they are mostly centered on a pre-Modern, fantastical Northern European/Caucasian perspective actually makes sense??
This level of arrogance and contempt for both of these works of fantasy (despite my issues with the Game of Thrones show) really pisses me off. He is basically saying "if these shows/films don't have a black person in a prominent role, regardless of actual quality, then screw them."
Its also worth noting that there were small token efforts to put Black and Asian men and women in the Laketown setting in the second and third Hobbit films. And that caused a lot of fans (myself included) to bend over backwards to attempt to justify this in the context of other races of men coming to Laketown because it is a trade city with ties to the wider world, and that this was before the Easterlings and Haradrim were coerced into Sauron's thrall. And plenty of fans with more.... conservative leanings were still bitching about it, claiming that Jackson had "went PC" or more variations of this diatribe, or simply even more annoyed he made another change from the book. Imagine how angry and upset book fans would be if one of the main characters was inexplicably played by a man of different race than what Tolkien (or Martin) had specified?
cough...
WINNER! *Slot machine pours out lots of gold coins*
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:35 pm
Pretty much. So yeah, I really have to wonder if he really knows anything about either series?
Again, its that combination of arrogance and ignorance that really gets my goat.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:25 pm
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Pretty much. So yeah, I really have to wonder if he really knows anything about either series?
Again, its that combination of arrogance and ignorance that really gets my goat.
What about Grey worm? Missandei? Obreyn Martell? Sand snakes?
Might not all be black but they certainly aren't white, and they are certainly more than "background cameos" of people on the streets. There was even an episode in the show that was very anti slaver.
Sure it's true that the MAIN characters are white but ultimately it sounds like John has never watched the fucking show.
Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:10 am
Wow, hard to believe that someone who works in the entertainment industry like Boyega say something like that, makes me wonder if he has watched the entire series.
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:50 pm
What's everyone thinking of this season so far? I have my issues with it because I know what's happening. But I'm enjoying it.
Also since season 8 scripts are going out I might have legitimately read a real synopsis of the ending. If it's real all I can say is ... DAMN..
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:01 pm
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Also since season 8 scripts are going out I might have legitimately read a real synopsis of the ending. If it's real all I can say is ... DAMN..
Do you still have that synopsis somewhere? If so, can you send me a pm?
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Subject: Re: Game of thrones Discussion. Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:35 am