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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:33 pm

Putin has been erased from 2 Hollywood movies. First, Hollywood turns a blind eye the to atrocities of China, then they fail to acknowledge the horrors of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Al Qauda, and ISIS, and now this. And yet, these same morons still bash the U.S.. Screw them.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:03 pm

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Putin has been erased from 2 Hollywood movies. First, Hollywood turns a blind eye the to atrocities of China, then they fail to acknowledge the horrors of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Al Qauda, and ISIS, and now this. And yet, these same morons still bash the U.S.. Screw them.
Wow that's pathetic. I don't want politics to change scenes in movies. Are people really that triggered to see Putin's face in a movie??
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:02 pm

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Putin has been erased from 2 Hollywood movies. First, Hollywood turns a blind eye the to atrocities of China, then they fail to acknowledge the horrors of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Al Qauda, and ISIS, and now this. And yet, these same morons still bash the U.S.. Screw them.
Wow that's pathetic. I don't want politics to change scenes in movies. Are people really that triggered to see Putin's face in a movie??

The normal audience, no. My guess is that it's 2 things.

1. Money. Hollywood might dig into the Russian market heavier, which means turning the other way to Russia's brutal methods and their homophobia. (Other then a short time period under Lenin's rule, Russia has always been a very traditional country.)

2. It would expose the moral relativism preached by many Hollywood actors/actresses. Let's face it, other then Angelina Jolie, how many people in Hollywood have tried to fight for reforms in countries in much worse shape then us. Better yet, how many of those same people acknowledge the evils of China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and *insert crappy 3rd world country here*? Very few.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:46 pm

The new cloverfield film "God particle" has been pushed back to February 2 2018
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:34 pm

T.J. Miller says that The Emoji Movie will fight Donald Trump and will be progressive.

I love that he says this, yet he basically admits that he was the only actor from the show 'Silicon Valley' who donated to Hillary's campaign. I mean, Sony tried this with GB2016, and look how that bombed/flopped.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:57 pm

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T.J. Miller says that The Emoji Movie will fight Donald Trump and will be progressive.

I love that he says this, yet he basically admits that he was the only actor from the show 'Silicon Valley' who donated to Hillary's campaign. I mean, Sony tried this with GB2016, and look how that bombed/flopped.

This thing has a $50 million budget, it will have to be nauseatingly bad to not turn a profit or at least not draw in a few million curious unfortunates.

Whereas GB2016 had a budget and marketing presence of nearly three times as much, and one that they hoped would make a respectable hit at the box office. This, being a non-Disney animated film, does not have the same lofty expectations.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:36 am

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T.J. Miller says that The Emoji Movie will fight Donald Trump and will be progressive.

I love that he says this, yet he basically admits that he was the only actor from the show 'Silicon Valley' who donated to Hillary's campaign. I mean, Sony tried this with GB2016, and look how that bombed/flopped.
So not only does it look awful but now this.

That's the problem with movie studios I feel. They try from the outset to figure out how to put a political message in a film. No matter how over the top. They don't build a film first, and then add it naturally.

Some of the greatest films ever had political messages but they were great because they were also FILMS.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:38 am

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T.J. Miller says that The Emoji Movie will fight Donald Trump and will be progressive.

I love that he says this, yet he basically admits that he was the only actor from the show 'Silicon Valley' who donated to Hillary's campaign. I mean, Sony tried this with GB2016, and look how that bombed/flopped.

The hilarious thing in all of this is that sh*t like this will ultimately end up hurting his "cause".

I find it so arrogant that people like this assume that the general public, in particular people who identify as conservative (or at least fall right of the position that Hollywood and the liberal media sit) are "uneducated", and that somehow this movie about fucking emojis is going to convince people to change their minds.

"You know, Fred, I used to think that securing our borders and regulating immigration during these incredibly tumultuous times was important, but after watching The Emoji Movie, I now realize that I was just being a racist piece of sh*t."



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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:54 am

i still can't believe that thing was actually made--it reads more as a parody from The Simpsons or something
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:42 am

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James Cameron Plans to “Reinvent” ‘Terminator’ With New Trilogy

That's odd considering how Paramount planned to make a true Terminator 3 movie that was connected to Terminator 2: Judgement Day and would have ret-conned all the other movies after that out of existence. Perhaps Paramount gave the rights, or part of them, back to Cameron early. In any case, while James Cameron is more then talented enough to pull this off, I just think that people, myself included, would rather see the proper T3 movie with Cameron being the man behind it.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:15 pm

I wonder if James Cameron also plans to invent a way to extend human life, so he can take on his list of 100 upcoming projects without stress. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:39 pm

It looks like Sony's Barbie movie isn't dead yet. Anne Hathaway is in talks to replace Amy Schumer.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:44 pm

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It looks like Sony's Barbie movie isn't dead yet. Anne Hathaway is in talks to replace Amy Schumer.

Well, that is a definite improvement over that black hole of talent. Granted, if this is somehow supposed to play into the "not perfect enough to be Barbie" plot that was attached to the Schumer version, Anne Hathaway is maybe a bit too beautiful to be believably banished for not being pretty enough. It makes me wonder if they have revised that plot again so that it resembles the earlier, more family friendly drafts.

Its still going to be ground to paste going up against Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom and The Incredibles.

The Emoji Movie scores a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. This thing is finished.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:12 pm

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It looks like Sony's Barbie movie isn't dead yet. Anne Hathaway is in talks to replace Amy Schumer.

Well, that is a definite improvement over that black hole of talent. Granted, if this is somehow supposed to play into the "not perfect enough to be Barbie" plot that was attached to the Schumer version, Anne Hathaway is maybe a bit too beautiful to be believably banished for not being pretty enough. It makes me wonder if they have revised that plot again so that it resembles the earlier, more family friendly drafts.

Its still going to be ground to paste going up against Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom and The Incredibles.

The Emoji Movie scores a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. This thing is finished.

At this point, Sony has to set it back. I don't think they even shot any footage when Schumer was the lead. And if The Emoji Movie bombs as bad as it looks like, if not worse, then they would have no other choice but to do so.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:36 pm

I don't understand this Emoji movie and the reviews.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:15 am

I call upon the dark Lord's of Xalatho to sen Emoji Movie to the 10th level of hell.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:31 am

The emoji movie being 0 percent on rotten tomatoes is payback for mankinds sins.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:51 pm

The Emoji movie now has a 3% RT score.

That's the exact same score that Mortal Kombat: Annihilation has. Considering how that movie..well, annihilated the careers of every actor and actress involved...Not exactly the best sign.


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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:11 pm

I still completely fail to understand how Amy Pascal has a job. Watched the new midnight's edge video on the emoji and popeye controversy, and someone in the comments put it best.

"Amy Pascal is like the villain of this channel".

As a someone who is a huge Sony fan and has been buying their products all my life it hurts me. How much longer before reform?
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:55 pm

Good News for Warner Bros.

AT&T buying them has cured their debt. The main boss of AT&T John Sranky, will be the main boss now.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:43 pm

I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:18 pm

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I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.

From what I understand it is actually an AWFU movie as well. I mean even critics and fans gave ghostbusters a chance after all that awful press and trailers.

This one? I've heard from a friend who went that it's actually that bad.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:03 pm

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I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.

No, it's because we supposed to get a Popeye movie made by the guy who made Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. But Amy Pascal killed it. Instead, we got this instead. It wasn't the reason why the Popeye movie got cancelled, but it something to replace it. Not only that but many people consider it a ripoff of Wreck-It-Ralph, The Lego Movie, and Inside Out.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:03 pm

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I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.

No, it's because we supposed to get a Popeye movie made by the guy who made Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. But Amy Pascal killed it. Instead, we got this instead. It wasn't the reason why the Popeye movie got cancelled, but it something to replace it. Not only that but many people consider it a ripoff of Wreck-It-Ralph, The Lego Movie, and Inside Out.
I think for the movie to be that bad it needs to have awful dialogues, boring, bad characters and so on.

Not just bc it's a copy of another movie. If that's the case WHY the critics are being so harsh, then it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I grew interested in watching this via torrent to see how bad it is.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:45 pm

@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
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@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.

No, it's because we supposed to get a Popeye movie made by the guy who made Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. But Amy Pascal killed it. Instead, we got this instead. It wasn't the reason why the Popeye movie got cancelled, but it something to replace it. Not only that but many people consider it a ripoff of Wreck-It-Ralph, The Lego Movie, and Inside Out.
I think for the movie to be that bad it needs to have awful dialogues, boring, bad characters and so on.

Not just bc it's a copy of another movie. If that's the case WHY the critics are being so harsh, then it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I grew interested in watching this via torrent to see how bad it is.
The movie literally makes references to outdated memes like the pen pineapple apple pen. Good God I hope Sony goes under for this.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:17 am

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@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.

No, it's because we supposed to get a Popeye movie made by the guy who made Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. But Amy Pascal killed it. Instead, we got this instead. It wasn't the reason why the Popeye movie got cancelled, but it something to replace it. Not only that but many people consider it a ripoff of Wreck-It-Ralph, The Lego Movie, and Inside Out.
I think for the movie to be that bad it needs to have awful dialogues, boring, bad characters and so on.

Not just bc it's a copy of another movie. If that's the case WHY the critics are being so harsh, then it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I grew interested in watching this via torrent to see how bad it is.
The movie literally makes references to outdated memes like the pen pineapple apple pen. Good God I hope Sony goes under for this.
Sony will be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:25 am

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@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Spinosaur4.4 wrote:
I think I get why people are hating Emoji so much. It's because the movie pretty much sums up how people are futile and uses emojis and cellphones for futile things.

No, it's because we supposed to get a Popeye movie made by the guy who made Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. But Amy Pascal killed it. Instead, we got this instead. It wasn't the reason why the Popeye movie got cancelled, but it something to replace it. Not only that but many people consider it a ripoff of Wreck-It-Ralph, The Lego Movie, and Inside Out.
I think for the movie to be that bad it needs to have awful dialogues, boring, bad characters and so on.

Not just bc it's a copy of another movie. If that's the case WHY the critics are being so harsh, then it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I grew interested in watching this via torrent to see how bad it is.
The movie literally makes references to outdated memes like the pen pineapple apple pen. Good God I hope Sony goes under for this.
Sony will be fine.

Not their movie branch. It's been in big trouble for sometime now and one of their major financing partners pulled out last week.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:17 am

Dunkrik beats out both The Emoji Movie and Atomic Blonde to stay Number 1 at the box office.

Paramount has lost it's main lifeline to China.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:24 am

A Dunkirk historian gives his thoughts on what the movie did so well. A great read.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:18 pm

Sony Pictures lost $84 million in the first fiscal quarter.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:41 pm

Studies show Rotten tomatoes is influential on people seeing movies or not.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:32 am


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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:11 pm

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Considering how Dinsey owns the rights to Winnie The Pooh, or at least the TV show rights, I'm surprised that Fox made this movie instead of Disney. It still looks like a good movie, though.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:41 pm

i want to say Winnie-the-Pooh is public domain, but i'm not all that certain (i looked it up to check--the original books might be, but obviously the Disney adaptations aren't--and they're all from the mid- to late-1920s after copyright law became a thing)

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:10 pm

Al Gore had a new global warming movie that came out this weekend...but nobody knew about it and it bombed. It gets even better. Even many on the left didn't want to see this movie.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:09 pm

It got very poor ratings, and I say that as a very progressive person myself. I read some reviews and it just did not sound at all enticing.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:31 am

Colonel Miles Quaritch Will be an antagonist in all 4 of the next Avatar films.....

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"But it's not a whole bunch of new characters every time. There's not a new villain every time, which is interesting. Same guy. Same motherf**ker through all four movies. He is so good and he just gets better. I know Stephen Lang is gonna knock this out of the park."

I think this is pretty silly and could be a massive disappointment.

For one why am I supposed to now feel worried about his character through the sequels? Anything can happen and I know he'll be safe. Or if he dies, like the first one, I know he'll just come back. Which completely negates the consequence of death making it meaningless in this universe. And lastly why not have some cool new villains? The guy is a great actor but I don't want to see the same thing over and over.

Cameron is getting ahead of himself in my humble opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:22 pm

Disney plans to take all its stuff off Netflix and start its own streaming service. Terrible news. Hope it doesn't work out.

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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:43 pm

And this is why I'm still collecting Disney DVDs and blu-rays. I sure as hell hope this fails and people simply don't have the money to afford two streaming services, with clearly one of them Netflix being the more attractive one.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:56 pm

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And this is why I'm still collecting Disney DVDs and blu-rays. I sure as hell hope this fails and people simply don't have the money to afford two streaming services, with clearly one of them Netflix being the more attractive one.

This feels like Disney is getting to high on itself. One would have thought trying to find out what to do with Star Wars and not trying to fix Marvel's comic branch via firing most of the writing staff would have made them less egotistical, but, oddly enough, that's not the case. They must really be riding high on the MCU, Star Wars money (despite the flaws), and their original claim to fame, animation, even higher then we ever thought.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:10 pm

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And this is why I'm still collecting Disney DVDs and blu-rays. I sure as hell hope this fails and people simply don't have the money to afford two streaming services, with clearly one of them Netflix being the more attractive one.

The thing is that it really sucks for the consumer and Netflix. I get that Disney is in it to make money. But what if everyone else has this mindset?

What's next is AMC going to pull walking dead and breaking bad for their new service?

What if WB pulls their movies and decides to make original content that centers around stuff like Harry Potter for instance.

Because sickle made a good point that Disney will probably sweeten the deal by making an original Star Wars show or something. If that's successful I could see tons of other studios do the same thing.

I mean now only does Netflix not look as attractive, but are we going to get to the point of streaming services costing more or as much as cable.

Big disclaimer. I don't not advocate for torrents and piracy. But companies need to realize that when you nickel and dime to this degree you are absolutely creating them. They'll always be there but as prices go up and stuff like this happens there will be more piracy. Guaranteed.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:20 pm

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@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
And this is why I'm still collecting Disney DVDs and blu-rays. I sure as hell hope this fails and people simply don't have the money to afford two streaming services, with clearly one of them Netflix being the more attractive one.

The thing is that it really sucks for the consumer and Netflix. I get that Disney is in it to make money. But what if everyone else has this mindset?

I mean now only does Netflix not look as attractive, but are we going to get to the point of streaming services costing more or as much as cable.

Big disclaimer. I don't not advocate for torrents and piracy. But companies need to realize that when you nickel and dime to this degree you are absolutely creating them. They'll always be there but as prices go up and stuff like this happens there will be more piracy. Guaranteed.

Now that you mentioned it, I just remembered that Netflix was $20 billion in debt. This could be a 'bailout' of sort by Disney. After all, they have more then enough cash to throw enough nowadays. That being said, you're right. The backlash might be enough to cancel much of this out.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:29 pm

@Rhedosaurus wrote:
@Troyal1 wrote:
@BarrytheOnyx wrote:
And this is why I'm still collecting Disney DVDs and blu-rays. I sure as hell hope this fails and people simply don't have the money to afford two streaming services, with clearly one of them Netflix being the more attractive one.

The thing is that it really sucks for the consumer and Netflix. I get that Disney is in it to make money. But what if everyone else has this mindset?

I mean now only does Netflix not look as attractive, but are we going to get to the point of streaming services costing more or as much as cable.

Big disclaimer. I don't not advocate for torrents and piracy. But companies need to realize that when you nickel and dime to this degree you are absolutely creating them. They'll always be there but as prices go up and stuff like this happens there will be more piracy. Guaranteed.

Now that you mentioned it, I just remembered that Netflix was $20 billion in debt. This could be a 'bailout' of sort by Disney. After all, they have more then enough cash to throw enough nowadays. That being said, you're right. The backlash might be enough to cancel much of this out.

That's a very good point. And someone did make the point to me on Reddit that Netflix really can't sustain to pay a lot of these corporations for their movies constantly. It's why Netflix is trying to make their own original content more and more and more.

I wonder if one day all Netflix will be is their own stuff? Or mostly anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: General Movie Discussion   Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:01 pm

Well, that didn't take long for the backlash to start.

Netflix's stock dropped 5% as a result from that news.
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