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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:29 am

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:33 pm

‘The Flash’: DC Film To Adapt Flashpoint Storyline

All who saw this coming, raise your hand and say "Called it!"

And yes, I called it too!
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:06 pm

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Ben is staying as Batman 

https://twitter.com/joblocom/status/888845160951435264

Of course he would say that. It's his talking points given to him by WB. What else could he say, that it's true? That would be a PR nightmare that would utterly destroy that chances of Justice League doing well at the box office.

Here's the Midnight's Edge: After Dark roundtable talk about all this.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:07 pm

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Troyal1 wrote:
Ben is staying as Batman 

https://twitter.com/joblocom/status/888845160951435264

Of course he would say that. It's his talking points given to him by WB. What else could he say, that it's true? That would be a PR nightmare that would utterly destroy that chances of Justice League doing well at the box office.

Here's the Midnight's Edge: After Dark roundtable talk about all this.


Well yeah I agree I certainly wouldn't put it in stone lol. He's gone back on lots of stuff he's said.

But at this point it would be a huge embarrassment if he dropped out after saying live in front of hundreds of people that he would be "an ape for Matt Reeves" lmao. He was really enthusiastic. If he drops out after that statement it'll be hard to ever trust what they say about this universe again.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:14 pm

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Ben is staying as Batman 

https://twitter.com/joblocom/status/888845160951435264

Of course he would say that. It's his talking points given to him by WB. What else could he say, that it's true? That would be a PR nightmare that would utterly destroy that chances of Justice League doing well at the box office.

Here's the Midnight's Edge: After Dark roundtable talk about all this.


Well yeah I agree I certainly wouldn't put it in stone lol. He's gone back on lots of stuff he's said.

But at this point it would be a huge embarrassment if he dropped out after saying live in front of hundreds of people that he would be "an ape for Matt Reeves" lmao. He was really enthusiastic. If he drops out after that statement it'll be hard to ever trust what they say about this universe again.

I honestly thought that the success of Wonder Woman would somehow translate into Ben staying via giving him optimism too. I guess things were far too much for him. A shame really. I guess part of him wants to, but with that's happened to him this year and how unstable the DCMU has been, he might not have much of a choice but to.

I honestly believe that the mishandling of the DCMU is what's making WB take far better care of their Godzillaverse.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:23 am

I'm inclined to believe Affleck to an extent. Thing is, DC just announced the Flash film is Flashpoint, aka where the New 52 began in comics. Just saying, if Flash comes back to an altered reality and Batman suddenly looks different, I wouldn't be surprised.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:44 pm

Tom Felton Won’t Return as a Series Regular on The Flash Season 4
Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/873873-tom-felton-the-flash-season-4#pXmM3E68PJOkGF12.99

Wonder Woman 2 To Release in December 2019
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:03 pm

Here's concept art of what Ares almost looked liked in Wonder Woman.

Personally, I think Ares looks more like a Roman gladiator then a Greek god of war.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:39 pm

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Here's concept art of what Ares almost looked liked in Wonder Woman.

Personally, I think Ares looks more like a Roman gladiator then a Greek god of war.

Based on this concept art alone, I think I would have preferred this look of Ares a LOT more. The black face and red eyes reminds me of the novel description of the Witch King of Angmar from The Lord of the Rings, and would have made Ares legitimately frightening. A lot of people could not live down seeing an animated copy of David Thewlis face behind the helmet. I understood why they took that liberty, to give a human face to Diana's enemy, but this would have been more intimidating and would have invited less criticism.

The thing with the Olympian gods in DC comics is that they don't really look like their mythical counterparts, there are a lot of stylized features about them that do blend them into looking more Roman than Greek.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:58 pm

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Rhedosaurus wrote:
Here's concept art of what Ares almost looked liked in Wonder Woman.

Personally, I think Ares looks more like a Roman gladiator then a Greek god of war.

Based on this concept art alone, I think I would have preferred this look of Ares a LOT more. The black face and red eyes reminds me of the novel description of the Witch King of Angmar from The Lord of the Rings, and would have made Ares legitimately frightening. A lot of people could not live down seeing an animated copy of David Thewlis face behind the helmet. I understood why they took that liberty, to give a human face to Diana's enemy, but this would have been more intimidating and would have invited less criticism.

The thing with the Olympian gods in DC comics is that they don't really look like their mythical counterparts, there are a lot of stylized features about them that do blend them into looking more Roman than Greek.

That makes sense considering how the Romans basically used the same Olympian gods that the Greeks did. I personally like this version the best. The 'Evil Spartan' look I call it.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:05 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:58 pm

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It looks like we're getting a Batman Beyond movie for the DCMU.

Are you sure that's what he said? The headline reads signed on to play the Batman in Matt Reeves trilogy and "Beyond", which implies that he will appear in more films than just the Reeves trilogy, possibly the Justice League sequel as well. It could be misdirection to keep people from questioning the stark possibility that he will exit the DCEU and a new actor will take his place. The article also doesn't source an extant article from any of the official movie reporting sites like Variety and Hollywood Reporter. Personally, I'm not buying it.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:44 am

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It looks like we're getting a Batman Beyond movie for the DCMU.

Are you sure that's what he said? The headline reads signed on to play the Batman in Matt Reeves trilogy and "Beyond", which implies that he will appear in more films than just the Reeves trilogy, possibly the Justice League sequel as well. It could be misdirection to keep people from questioning the stark possibility that he will exit the DCEU and a new actor will take his place. The article also doesn't source an extant article from any of the official movie reporting sites like Variety and Hollywood Reporter. Personally, I'm not buying it.

WB DC isn't exactly known for their PR skills as of the past few years.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:57 pm

Jaume Collet-Serra won't be directing Suicide Squad 2.

Just when WB had that one month of optimism and joy due to Wonder Woman, everything crashed and burned again...
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:37 pm

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Jaume Collet-Serra won't be directing Suicide Squad 2.

Just when WB had that one month of optimism and joy due to Wonder Woman, everything crashed and burned again...

I really fail to see how Jaume Collet-Serra's departure from the Suicide Squad gig is going to cast a pall of negativity over all things DC. He's a competent director but hardly a great one. Suicide Squad is not a hot property right now, it may have been a box office hit but most newcoming directors are naturally very wary of it. The success or failure of the sequel, at least in regards to becoming a quality film, did not rest on this one director. Simply put, nobody really cares about Suicide Squad, they care about Aquaman, Wonder Woman 2, The Batman, Flashpoint, Shazam and Green Lantern Corps.

On that note, we have Justice League and Aquaman head of us, and they are much more important to the future of the DCCU. If Justice League is divisive or gets a lukewarm reception (but again, still a financial hit), then Warner Bros will quickly get people to start talking about Aquaman and be able to bounce back. With all the reshoots that have been going on, the one big takeaway that I see in all this is that WB are not settling for sloppy seconds, they appear to be willing to put up the money necessary to fine tune this thing until they get it to a satisfying level, and if that involves increasing Wonder Woman's role or improving on dialogue scenes then make it so.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:50 pm

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Jaume Collet-Serra won't be directing Suicide Squad 2.

Just when WB had that one month of optimism and joy due to Wonder Woman, everything crashed and burned again...

I really fail to see how Jaume Collet-Serra's departure from the Suicide Squad gig is going to cast a pall of negativity over all things DC. He's a competent director but hardly a great one. Suicide Squad is not a hot property right now, it may have been a box office hit but most newcoming directors are naturally very wary of it. The success or failure of the sequel, at least in regards to becoming a quality film, did not rest on this one director. Simply put, nobody really cares about Suicide Squad, they care about Aquaman, Wonder Woman 2, The Batman, Flashpoint, Shazam and Green Lantern Corps.

On that note, we have Justice League and Aquaman head of us, and they are much more important to the future of the DCCU. If Justice League is divisive or gets a lukewarm reception (but again, still a financial hit), then Warner Bros will quickly get people to start talking about Aquaman and be able to bounce back. With all the reshoots that have been going on, the one big takeaway that I see in all this is that WB are not settling for sloppy seconds, they appear to be willing to put up the money necessary to fine tune this thing until they get it to a satisfying level, and if that involves increasing Wonder Woman's role or improving on dialogue scenes then make it so.

It's just that this comes after Ben Affleck supposedly leaving the DCMU after Justice League that it comes across as more bad news after more bad news. Not only that, but there has been talk about Justice League having a budget of up to $500 million due to Joss Whedon's reshoots. Given how BvS had a budget that was $410 million, that's not as unlikely as people think. Not only that, but Aquaman isn't as well liked as either Batman or Superman. And let's face it, the DCMU doesn't have the goodwill that Marvel did to make both of the Guardians Of The Galaxy movies and Ant-Man-which had a troubled history not unlike JW did-work.

I really want this to work and I'm happy that WB finally got their debt cured via AT&T buying them. But this just seems like a lot to overcome.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:31 pm

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Jaume Collet-Serra won't be directing Suicide Squad 2.

Just when WB had that one month of optimism and joy due to Wonder Woman, everything crashed and burned again...

I'm with Barry on this. I think it's better news. Although I have no hope for the film anyway.

But in other news.... Andrea Romano retires.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/07/31/legendary-voiceover-director-andrea-romano-retires
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:14 am

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It looks like that one women's only screening of Wonder Woman that the Alamo Drafthouse did were illegal after all.

The Wonder Woman good news just keeps comin' in!

Seriously, that whole debacle was over the stupidest and most pointless nonsense you could foist onto an anticipated blockbuster. It was sexist enough without excluding the male workers at the Alamo Drafthouse drop out for those proposed showings.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:54 pm

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Wonder Woman has made the $400 million dollar mark in the domestic box office. It's going to make over $800 million eventually.

This is great news for WB and the DCMU.

Good.

I have already had an argument with someone on Twitter who legitimately wants a black only, black panther screening.

It is ridiculous imo. Hopefully that will be the end of that.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:53 am

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Early cut of Justice League was deemed unwatchable and large changes were made.

Eh boy...

Uhhh, Rhedo, that link leads to an article called "Thank goodness! An oral history of ABC's TGIF" - its about Disney's television division featuring Bob Iger. There's nothing Justice League related anywhere.

But yeah... I read an article on a different website containing the same story. And now I consider myself back in the nervous phase of this lead-up to Justice League.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:32 pm

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Early cut of Justice League was deemed unwatchable and large changes were made.

Eh boy...

Uhhh, Rhedo, that link leads to an article called "Thank goodness! An oral history of ABC's TGIF" - its about Disney's television division featuring Bob Iger. There's nothing Justice League related anywhere.

But yeah... I read an article on a different website containing the same story. And now I consider myself back in the nervous phase of this lead-up to Justice League.

Crap...Sorry about that. My bad. Razz

In any case, here's more news with the CORRECT link.

Justice League has been changed to give us more about Steppenwolf's origin and less about his nephew, Darkseid, coming to Earth.

It looks like Steppenwolf being the big bad if the DCMU peters out might be possible.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:22 am

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:15 pm

Lindsay Ellis make a fool out of herself. Hasn't she heard of how well Wonder Woman did? I really wish that MisterMetokur made that expose on her like he originally planed.




Speaking of Wonder Woman, it has now reached the $800 million dollar mark.

And it's pretty much confirmed that Patty Jenkins will be back to direct Wonder Woman 2.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:03 pm

I used to like Ellis (and I still enjoy a lot of her earlier reviews, just like Doug Walker's earlier videos), but she's had a stick up her arse for a long time now. I knew she was crabby when it came to that long-winded essay about how "Jurassic World doesn't deserve Claire Dearing" and having a few words to say about Trevorrow.

But her reasoning that WB is misogynistic has little do no grounding to it, especially since they've not only got the most successful superheroine movie on the block but also by the way they've responded to the film's praise and ensured the sequel has a chance of being just as good or even better than the first film. In addition to this, I'm content to wait for Batgirl to get the greenlight and enter production.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:55 pm

A Joker origin movie is being produced by Martin Scorsese.

I never thought that him of all people would be interested in making a superhero movie. WB must have really paid him well.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:30 pm

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A Joker origin movie is being produced by Martin Scorsese.

I never thought that him of all people would be interested in making a superhero movie. WB must have really paid him well.

Not to be negative but stuff like transformers is also being produced by Spielberg right?

It is however odd for him, so he must see something in the joker.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:09 pm

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A Joker origin movie is being produced by Martin Scorsese.

I never thought that him of all people would be interested in making a superhero movie. WB must have really paid him well.

Not to be negative but stuff like transformers is also being produced by Spielberg right?

It is however odd for him, so he must see something in the joker.

Here's the thing, though. Other then the first movie, Spielberg has basically sat back and let Michael Bay do whatever he wanted. He's been like that since JP3 and JW was the rare exception. (I mainly attribute that to how Johnston was torn apart by the fans and how Spielberg was worried that Trevorrow might suffer the same fate.) I can't imagine Scorsese being that laid back.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:25 pm

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Rhedosaurus wrote:
A Joker origin movie is being produced by Martin Scorsese.

I never thought that him of all people would be interested in making a superhero movie. WB must have really paid him well.

Not to be negative but stuff like transformers is also being produced by Spielberg right?

It is however odd for him, so he must see something in the joker.

Here's the thing, though. Other then the first movie, Spielberg has basically sat back and let Michael Bay do whatever he wanted. He's been like that since JP3 and JW was the rare exception. (I mainly attribute that to how Johnston was torn apart by the fans and how Spielberg was worried that Trevorrow might suffer the same fate.) I can't imagine Scorsese being that laid back.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:25 pm

Matt Reeves says that The Batman won't take place in the DCMU.

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“Well, I have a vision for a way to do something with that character [Batman] that feels like it resonates with me personally, and a perspective that can grow outward into other things. When they [Warner Bros.] approached me, what they said was ‘look, it’s a standalone, it’s not part of the extended universe.’”

WOW! That's huge!

Here's the site that he said it on. Push the play button, move the scroll to the 25:50 mark and he'll say that quote a few seconds later.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:11 pm

Man, the last 48 hours have been a crazy roller coaster if you're a DC fan. When the Martin Scorcese produced Joker movie dropped, I thought it was some kind of rumour that got out of hand. (I mean, if that can happen, I want a Steven Spielberg produced Superman movie! Razz )

I'm still not sure how that is supposed to work, even when you consider that the Joker is not really supposed to have a concrete origin story, as evidenced by the "multiple choice past" line in The Killing Joke and the constantly changing traumatic stories of Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight. Yes, the chemical vat thing has been used time and again in film and animation but that's mainly because its so recognizable.

As for the Matt Reeves comments, that was another interesting case - I thought it was a red flag signifying that WB was going to abandon the DCEU and basically create a "Bat-verse", if you will, despite breaking new ground with Wonder Woman and buying themselves much needed time. Now, recently, he's clarified his statements that the events of The Batman (and likely the whole trilogy) will be focused on the titular character and not feature cameos from other members of the Justice League. Which, IMO, is something they should have considered from the beginning, since Batman's rogues gallery would be small fries compared to the likes of Zod, Doomsday, Ares or Steppenwolf.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:50 pm

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Man, the last 48 hours have been a crazy roller coaster if you're a DC fan. When the Martin Scorcese produced Joker movie dropped, I thought it was some kind of rumour that got out of hand. (I mean, if that can happen, I want a Steven Spielberg produced Superman movie! Razz )

I'm still not sure how that is supposed to work, even when you consider that the Joker is not really supposed to have a concrete origin story, as evidenced by the "multiple choice past" line in The Killing Joke and the constantly changing traumatic stories of Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight. Yes, the chemical vat thing has been used time and again in film and animation but that's mainly because its so recognizable.

As for the Matt Reeves comments, that was another interesting case - I thought it was a red flag signifying that WB was going to abandon the DCEU and basically create a "Bat-verse", if you will, despite breaking new ground with Wonder Woman and buying themselves much needed time. Now, recently, he's clarified his statements that the events of The Batman (and likely the whole trilogy) will be focused on the titular character and not feature cameos from other members of the Justice League. Which, IMO, is something they should have considered from the beginning, since Batman's rogues gallery would be small fries compared to the likes of Zod, Doomsday, Ares or Steppenwolf.

Don't forget how Zack Synder may be coming back to finish Justice League with Whedon trying to deal with the latest controversies surrounding himself. (Which he himself mostly made.)

I think that WB may have strongarmed Reeves into backtracking. That's the only explanation I can think of.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:54 pm

Seriously? Matt Reeves said it himself. Batman is part of the DCEU. Ben Affleck is not leaving as Batman. Where do you guys get the idea that THIS: (https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/900784577802678272)

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:48 am

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Seriously? Matt Reeves said it himself. Batman is part of the DCEU. Ben Affleck is not leaving as Batman. Where do you guys get the idea that THIS: (https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/900784577802678272)

is backtracking?


Well, according to himself via that one interview, he did say it was a standalone movie. And studios that have problems with a movie/movie franchise do things like this. (Sony strongarming the surviving cast of the original GB cast into endorsing GB2016.)
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:07 pm

BIG NEWS/LEAKS via Reddit.

Aquaman pushed to Oct 5, 2018.

The Superman funeral might be ret-conned out of existence/explained as Kent faking his own death.

Superman and Lois will get married.

The Batgirl movie might not get made, in large part due to Whedon's problems.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:00 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:
BIG NEWS/LEAKS via Reddit.

Aquaman pushed to Oct 5, 2018.

The Superman funeral might be ret-conned out of existence/explained as Kent faking his own death.

Superman and Lois will get married.

The Batgirl movie might not get made, in large part due to Whedon's problems.

Honestly most of the leaks about DC in Reddit are pretty fake I think.

Reddit only ever been reliable for a few things leak wise.

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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:46 pm

Why would they retcon the Superman funeral??

Especially since the marketing for Justice League has been focused on the other members of the league rather than Superman, and how often it's referred to that Superman is gone, we see it a lot in the trailer (and in the beginning of Suicide Squad). They've already committed to the idea that he died to defeat Doomsday, and alluded to the possibility (via the musical score) that the Codex will play a part in resurrecting him. I just find it really far-fetched and actively destructive to the DCEU by cheapening Supes' sacrifice by asserting that he "faked" it.
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PostSubject: Re: The DC Comics Thread   Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:51 pm

Sickle_Claw wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
BIG NEWS/LEAKS via Reddit.

Aquaman pushed to Oct 5, 2018.

The Superman funeral might be ret-conned out of existence/explained as Kent faking his own death.

Superman and Lois will get married.

The Batgirl movie might not get made, in large part due to Whedon's problems.

Honestly most of the leaks about DC in Reddit are pretty fake I think.

Reddit only ever been reliable for a few things leak wise.


Well, they did get it right on BvS and Suicide Squad. And let's not forget about Stantz1984. Keep that in mind.




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Why would they retcon the Superman funeral??

Especially since the marketing for Justice League has been focused on the other members of the league rather than Superman, and how often it's referred to that Superman is gone, we see it a lot in the trailer (and in the beginning of Suicide Squad). They've already committed to the idea that he died to defeat Doomsday, and alluded to the possibility (via the musical score) that the Codex will play a part in resurrecting him. I just find it really far-fetched and actively destructive to the DCEU by cheapening Supes' sacrifice by asserting that he "faked" it.

My guess is that WB learned the wrong lessons from BvS. I.E. They heard all the negative reaction from it via fans wanting it to take place in another movie so, if this leak is true, they are doing this. Besides, in the very end, you see that he's not as dead as we thought. Not saying it's a good idea, but it's the only thing I can think of.
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