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(btw, I love how Colin Trevorrow is always on set despite not being the director anymore... he really cares about the project)

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(btw, I love how Colin Trevorrow is always on set despite not being the director anymore... he really cares about the project)

He's a screenwriter + executive producer, so why would he not be present most of the time? He's paid to be there.

Well, Spielberg was the producer of JW but stayed there for like... zero days? Yes, Colin is the writer (and a less busy man than Spielberg, I guess), but the writers don't always go on set. I mean, it's not that weird he's on set, but that was not even a sure thing. From the various tweets and photos it almost seems like he's co-directing the movie with Bayona.

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Maybe I'm looking a bit too far into nothing, but Pratt hits me as little disinterested. I'd be game for Tom Hardy taking over from Pratt as the main protagonist. He's a far better actor.

What makes you think Chris Pratt is disinterested in the new film?
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Troyal1 wrote:
Maybe I'm looking a bit too far into nothing, but Pratt hits me as little disinterested. I'd be game for Tom Hardy taking over from Pratt as the main protagonist. He's a far better actor.

What makes you think Chris Pratt is disinterested in the new film?

I guess it's because he didn't tweet anything about JW2..? But I'm pretty sure he's so excited to shoot JW2, but he maybe just isn't a Twitter guy like Bryce, or maybe he's just not allowed.

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lol
(btw, I love how Colin Trevorrow is always on set despite not being the director anymore... he really cares about the project)

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I wanna see this shot in the film so badly. I really want to put this and the final product side-by-side.

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So T.rex confirmed in JW2. WOW. This pics are making me angry now. Hope something leaks. Enough with little secrets.


Anyway, I don't think we'll see multiple companies. Maybe InGen + Another one together, but I really doubt it.

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owenpratt wrote:
lol
(btw, I love how Colin Trevorrow is always on set despite not being the director anymore... he really cares about the project)

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I wanna see this shot in the film so badly. I really want to put this and the final product side-by-side.

All those pines, interesting. I wonder if that's purposeful. There's a tourist trap place about a mile or so from where they filmed the original TLW stuff called the Trees of Mystery. There's a gondola lift to the top of a mountain there, and it looks exactly like what it shown in that video Bayona posted...

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Maybe I'm looking a bit too far into nothing, but Pratt hits me as little disinterested. I'd be game for Tom Hardy taking over from Pratt as the main protagonist. He's a far better actor.

What makes you think Chris Pratt is disinterested in the new film?

I guess it's because he didn't tweet anything about JW2..? But I'm pretty sure he's so excited to shoot JW2, but he maybe just isn't a Twitter guy like Bryce, or maybe he's just not allowed.

To be fair, considering this, Infinity War, and family time, he's probably just too busy to show it like Bryce is.

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If that pine tree setting would supposedly be used for Nublar (?), it would look as much as Nublar as JP3 Sorna did TLW Sorna. As in not much at all and in reverse.
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Posted on the JPtoys forum, from a member who said it was shown to him by a friend found it on 4Chan. Given it was found on 4chan, it has a very high probability of being fake. Still, I do like what I see. Also, Dodgson is an odd choice given the screen time. Maybe a hint at a plot point in the next JP movie?

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If any of this turns out to be true, lets break it down. Spoilers ahead if you want to remain blind to any possible clues:

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Somehow it sounds great and terrible at the same time.
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Dodgson confirmed?

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- The idea of a proto-Indominus is somewhat intriguing, but also kind of unsettling.

- Totally stoked for the possible introduction of a Bayonyx. It's about damn time.

- More T. Rex is always a good thing.

- Beyond stoked if the Brachiosaurus is to reappear.

- Dodgson? Yes please!

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My heart almost stopped when I saw 
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If it's fake, you just can't play with someone's emotion like this. No.  Sad

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Personally I'm going to say I think it's fake, although I think there is a high probability of a lot of those things being in the movie, whether it's real or not. 

Kinda hope it's real(Finally Baryonyx, Finally Dodgson etc). 

But then kinda hope it's not(hybrid).


Edit: I'm not saying this means anything, but wouldn't this secret listing have the actual title? Or is it the other way around and this migh help its credibility?
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Wait, there's a hybrid in it? Please say to me it's an Indominus. Twisted Evil

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Posted on the JPtoys forum, from a member who said it was shown to him by a friend found it on 4Chan. Given it was found on 4chan, it has a very high probability of being fake. Still, I do like what I see. Also, Dodgson is an odd choice given the screen time. Maybe a hint at a plot point in the next JP movie?

Spoiler:

The proto-I. rex...Could it be that they're going to reveal that the JP3 Spinosaurus was a proto-hybrid like the Masrain Backdoor site said? And it's I hope that the Brachiosaurus is a respectable sized toy.



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Personally I'm going to say I think it's fake, although I think there is a high probability of a lot of those things being in the movie, whether it's real or not. 

Kinda hope it's real(Finally Baryonyx, Finally Dodgson etc). 

But then kinda hope it's not(hybrid).

If leaks on 4Chan and Reddit about movies have been proven to be right, then it's hard to blow this off too.

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I'd say it's fake, only because it misspells Dodgson & I don't want to get my hopes up too much...
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If this is a leak from an anonymous source, then it seems pretty benign. Certainly compared to other cited examples of troubled productions spilling out into the open.

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I'm not blowing it off as fake at all. But there are also a lot of people on those sites that think it's funny to scare people or get their hopes up with fake leaks. I mean a guy in 2016 made a fake controller for the Nintendo switch just to cause a stir. I'm not saying I believe it's not real, but I also know people love to pull stuff. 

It would not surprise me if this is real. Nothing sounds too crazy. If it's fake it's definitely a decent fake
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Yeah as people say, the format seems right for Mattel stuff though

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I think it's fake. It's too awesome for me to belive.

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Soooo. What exactly does 

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I still think that they're going to have the JP3 Spinosaurus be explained as the first super-hybrid. The Masrani backdoor site heavily implied that it was via 'accident left on Sorna'. Maybe this could be to solidify that.

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Soooo. What exactly does

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I still think that they're going to have the JP3 Spinosaurus be explained as the first super-hybrid. The Masrani backdoor site heavily implied that it was via 'accident left on Sorna'. Maybe this could be to solidify that.

If they acknowledged Spino, they'd have to acknowledge Sorna as well, but they don't seem to have interest in respecting that canon as otherwise they'd suddenly have to explain all the plot holes they've made in ignoring TLW/JP3.

Anyway, why would Spino have been hybrid? It's just a normal dinosaur. Yes with serial killer attitude, but that's more of a lazy film design / plot device than anything else, and can explained with excuses. In JP3, Billy mentions it not being in the "InGen list", but for all for we know (for the lack of explanation) that list might just be of animals meant to be at Jurassic Park. And anything else was not yet ready to be implemented, like Spino. It's plausible.

The Masrani website is just marketing off brand to please some fans, I don't care what it says. Just like JPTG was supposedly official canon to JP, lol right.
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True, but the canon JPTG was not Movie-based canon (i.e. JP, TLW, JP3, JW), so its chances of being retconned were always high to begin with, compounded by it's mixed reception and mediocre sales.

I would hesitate to jump the gun and say we will get a lot references to the first two sequels, but the fact that they're at least looking to the books means they may have to acknowledge Isla Sorna sooner rather than later. If they wanted to explicitly write out the two middle sequels from the canon they would have come out and said it without hesitation back when the new film was released. At any rate, simply saying there's a second island and that there were previous attempts to create weaponized dinosaurs that failed would still be fairly incidental to the plot of the sequel but would not require audiences to have seen TLW and JP3 if they didn't want to.

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Soooo. What exactly does

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I still think that they're going to have the JP3 Spinosaurus be explained as the first super-hybrid. The Masrani backdoor site heavily implied that it was via 'accident left on Sorna'. Maybe this could be to solidify that.

If they acknowledged Spino, they'd have to acknowledge Sorna as well, but they don't seem to have interest in respecting that canon as otherwise they'd suddenly have to explain all the plot holes they've made in ignoring TLW/JP3.

Anyway, why would Spino have been hybrid? It's just a normal dinosaur. Yes with serial killer attitude, but that's more of a lazy film design / plot device than anything else, and can explained with excuses. In JP3, Billy mentions it not being in the "InGen list", but for all for we know (for the lack of explanation) that list might just be of animals meant to be at Jurassic Park. And anything else was not yet ready to be implemented, like Spino. It's plausible.

The Masrani website is just marketing off brand to please some fans, I don't care what it says. Just like JPTG was supposedly official canon to JP, lol right.

What plot holes did they make?
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True, but the canon JPTG was not Movie-based canon (i.e. JP, TLW, JP3, JW), so its chances of being retconned were always high to begin with, compounded by it's mixed reception and mediocre sales.

I would hesitate to jump the gun and say we will get a lot references to the first two sequels, but the fact that they're at least looking to the books means they may have to acknowledge Isla Sorna sooner rather than later. If they wanted to explicitly write out the two middle sequels from the canon they would have come out and said it without hesitation back when the new film was released. At any rate, simply saying there's a second island and that there were previous attempts to create weaponized dinosaurs that failed would still be fairly incidental to the plot of the sequel but would not require audiences to have seen TLW and JP3 if they didn't want to.

Certain infamous administrator at JPL was so furious at his insistence of JPTG being uber critical official canon to films and JP universe, that he basically shut down my and couple others mouths for disagreeing. Bitter memories of that saga. But film canons are always different thing to expanded franchise canons, whether they have blessings of authorities or not. And as you said, those blessings can be quickly removed again anyway.

I'm pretty sure like 99,9% of the people who saw JW had seen TLW and JP3 in the past. If not at the time of release, at least sometime before JW. The film is/was too well known as Jurassic Park 4. But in any case, the reason why they were ignored in JW canon had nothing to do with that. As I said, they would have had to explain the plot holes on screen. The San Diego incident's ramifications, knowledge of first park's existence to the public, the another island being left out alone etc etc. By swooping them under the carpet and pretending they don't exist, but at the same time ordering to include some subtle hints to the side brand Masrani marketing site, they could stay away from explaining but also technically claim not to have ignored TLW/JP3 by pointing out to the marketing. Technically...
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