General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.1

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Leave poor Rexy be. It's time for a new Rex. A buck, perhaps.

I wonder if a new T. rex that's a truly vicious creature and prepared to kill both protagonists and antagonists would be a welcome change.

For me, it absolutely would be. If this film is to indeed be "darker", then is can't feel as though the protagonists are protected from one of the top predators in the environment at all times. There has to be a sense of danger whenever the Rex is on screen.

As much as I love TLW and JW, they both did a lot to "defang" the Rex, so to speak. While TLW made the Rex family out to be sympathetic, JW made Rexy out to be a triumphant hero. Both ideas worked well, but I do long for the sense of dread that the Rex escape scene in JP provided.

edit: As far as showing Rexy's skeleton in JW2, it wouldn't be a big deal for me either way, but I'm not exactly a fan of the idea. Rexy's story arc is done, and revisiting it for the sake of revisiting it would simply be fan service (not saying that fan service is a bad thing, per se, as long as it serves a purpose).

If they really wanted to pull at the heart strings, they could have chosen to show her succumbing to her injuries in JW. Perhaps ending the film with a tracking shot going through the jungles of Isla Nublar, following a set of Rex tracks back to the old Visitors Center, and wrapping up showing Rexy lying down in the old VC, breathing heavily. As the classic JP theme quietly plays, the camera slowly zooms in on her eye, her breathing geting slower and more labored. Finally, as the camera is right on her eye, the sound of breathing stops, and she closes her eyes one last time, finally succumbing to her injuries. It would have been a nice, bittersweet ending imo. On the one hand, an old friend is saying goodbye, but on the other hand, she's dying as a free animal.

However, the time for that has passed imo. We're too far removed from JW and her story for something like that to have the impact that it should.

The domain names sounds like a group of people (not InGen or Masrani) are trying to get the dinosaurs off the island, likely because the ecosystem there would otherwise collapse and kill them all. Or maybe InGen's actually gonna bomb the island.
Also, they're starting the viral marketing WAY early this time.

"New dinosaurs" = hybrids.

Wanna bet? 


I would love to see an Acrochantosaurus finally appearing or another Carcharodontosaurid, but I know this is just a dream that will never come true.

I'll get fired for this, but, I rather see a cool new theropod hybrid than the same T.rex all over again. Sue me.


But since some fans love the T.rex more than the franchise, I bet we'll see Rexy again. Eh. I rather see a Buck level T.rex than her. Sue me again. 

I mean, I don't get that love everyone has for Rexy. Buck is way more charismatic (I know it sounds strange to call a dinosaur charismatic) and cool.  And she already appeared in 2 movies. She's old. No need for more useless fanservice. If you're going to show a "dinosaur character", show Blue instead. And she would fit in the story more than Rexy.


I didn't want any "dinosaur character" to appear again, honestly. I don't like how they force down a character on us. They are dinosaurs. They are wild. And they should be treated and respected like that. If they think that naming dinosaurs and making them characters will make me care for them, they are wrong. They'll just make me care less about them. If they want to put a dinosaur character in the next movie, I hope it's Blue only. I didn't even want her back but well...

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

I'll get fired for this, but, I rather see a cool new theropod hybrid than the same T.rex all over again. Sue me.

You got it.

Spoiler:

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

I'll get fired for this, but, I rather see a cool new theropod hybrid than the same T.rex all over again. Sue me.

You got it.

Spoiler:

Nice one!

owenpratt wrote:

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

I'll get fired for this, but, I rather see a cool new theropod hybrid than the same T.rex all over again. Sue me.

You got it.

Spoiler:

Nice one!

That was quite the comeback!

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

I'll get fired for this, but, I rather see a cool new theropod hybrid than the same T.rex all over again. Sue me.

You got it.

Spoiler:

Knew someone would do that.    

Thanks.

Oscar Faura brought on as cinematographer for Jurassic World 2.

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Oscar Faura brought on as cinematographer for Jurassic World 2.

This is very good news indeed!! Now we can bet that the next film will look terrific, and perhaps more in line with the previous three films! This movie is coming together as I had hoped.

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Oscar Faura brought on as cinematographer for Jurassic World 2.

Best news since Bayona was officially announced!!!

With more animatronics and Oscar Faura as cinematographer, JW2 will look better than JW, that's for sure.

They are ticking ALL the boxes for what I want in a JP film so far. If this all plays out well, I think we'll have a film leagues better than JW. Don't it twisted I like JW, but I've wanted a "different" kind of JP movie for a long time. The science, the animatronics, more suspense and darker!

So many good vibes in the JP corner right now. Still not hot on the composer, but I can live with it.

Completely random thought

I know this won't happen and many people would be against it, but it would be a dream come true for me, if Alfonso Cuarón did the last one. Random I know, but I'm a huge fan.

I'm not completely against the idea of Alfonso Cuarón directing the final Jurassic film; I loved The Prisoner of Azkaban and I liked Children of Men. I did not like Gravity and found it to be very overrated, however I can say it was a well directed and good looking film. I could see him making a very dark JP film, and I could see him bringing a lot of clout to the series as a respected director, and fitting the prototype that Bayona seems to be setting up for the next film. He seems more likely than the typical "Spielberg protege" mold that Joe Johnston and Colin Trevorrow fit, even more recent examples like Brad Bird and Jon Favreau, while great directors, might not be too likely if the franchise ends on a decidedly dark note.


Also in a recent interview, Bayona continues to say all the right things a JP fan wants to hear from the future director of JW2. Most notable is the possibility of JW2 having more substance and more to it's story than just dinosaur action;

“It doesn’t matter what the film is about – what is important always is what lies behind the story,” he says. “So as a filmmaker you need to take out the dinosaur and think about what is lying behind the story, beyond the dinosaurs, beyond the genre. For me the dinosaur is the surface.”

He also has some insightful things to say about Chris Pratt's Owen Grady, and rather encouragingly hints at the possibility that his next film will manage to be scarier than the previous films in the series.

J.A. Bayona interview: 'I think that somehow we over-protect kids'[/i]

I really like the discussion about truth and reality. It's something I hope he'll add to the movie. This also makes me a bit more hopeful that kids won't have a thick of a plot armor as they used to.

Tyrant Lizard wrote:

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

I'll get fired for this, but, I rather see a cool new theropod hybrid than the same T.rex all over again. Sue me.

You got it.

Spoiler:

I've been wanting to see Sue be resurrected in one of the 2 JW sequels for quite some time. I'd love to see her. Give her down/feathers on her back like how Fred The Dinosaur Man did with Rexy via his JW Rexy idea. If Universal does decide to kill off Rexy, then just introduce Sue as the new queen and have somebody say "the original queen has passed" or something like that. Besides, Sue is the real life Rexy.

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

I'm not completely against the idea of Alfonso Cuarón directing the final Jurassic film; I loved The Prisoner of Azkaban and I liked Children of Men. I did not like Gravity and found it to be very overrated, however I can say it was a well directed and good looking film. I could see him making a very dark JP film, and I could see him bringing a lot of clout to the series as a respected director, and fitting the prototype that Bayona seems to be setting up for the next film. He seems more likely than the typical "Spielberg protege" mold that Joe Johnston and Colin Trevorrow fit, even more recent examples like Brad Bird and Jon Favreau, while great directors, might not be too likely if the franchise ends on a decidedly dark note.


Also in a recent interview, Bayona continues to say all the right things a JP fan wants to hear from the future director of JW2. Most notable is the possibility of JW2 having more substance and more to it's story than just dinosaur action;

“It doesn’t matter what the film is about – what is important always is what lies behind the story,” he says. “So as a filmmaker you need to take out the dinosaur and think about what is lying behind the story, beyond the dinosaurs, beyond the genre. For me the dinosaur is the surface.”

He also has some insightful things to say about Chris Pratt's Owen Grady, and rather encouragingly hints at the possibility that his next film will manage to be scarier than the previous films in the series.

J.A. Bayona interview: 'I think that somehow we over-protect kids'[/i]

Pretty much everything you said is why i want him. Personally his Harry Potter movie and children of men are both masterpieces to me. I personally like how he takes adaptations and makes them his own and they feel different. Although i wouldn't want him changing the dino design and continuity etc. I agree with you about Gravity partially. I saw the film in IMAX and i can honestly say it was the most immersive film i have ever seen. People in the audience were in tears at certain parts because of how beautiful some of his tracking shots were. But yeah its not a great film after you've seen it, especially on a small screen. Not much substance besides the visuals. But where i was going with that was he can create amazing senses of Wonder and scale.

That is the reason i was so excited for Bayona. To me he is the same mold of director and isn't as "hollywood type." Even though it will have a massive budget with big stars.


Also am i the only one who wants spinoff films in between movies like star wars? I would love a few lower budget side stories. I know they don't have a whole universe(literal lol) to work with but there could be alot of potential.

I would love to see an entire movie with Dr Wu in the lead

Troyal1 wrote:

Also am i the only one who wants spinoff films in between movies like star wars? I would love a few lower budget side stories. I know they don't have a whole universe(literal lol) to work with but there could be alot of potential.

I would love to see an entire movie with Dr Wu in the lead

Back on JPLegacy, somebody brought up the idea of a sort of ET-ish type spinoff film. I can't exactly remember the details, but it had something to do with a child finding a small dinosaur and trying to keep it as a pet or something along those lines. I think that would be a pretty cool idea. It would be a very different type of film, but A) Still be grounded in reality, and B) Could be integrated into the JP canon/universe without having any lasting repercussions to the main franchise.

Damn, watch a JP movie with Wu's point of view would be awesome IMO. Scientists rock man, and watch the genius behind everything as a lead is a dream.

Way more interesting than a generic mind "raptor" trainer IMO.

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

Damn, watch a JP movie with Wu's point of view would be awesome IMO. Scientists rock man, and watch the genius behind everything as a lead is a dream.

Way more interesting than a generic mind "raptor" trainer IMO.

Yes!!! I threw the Wu idea in there for you as I thought you'd love a movie focusing on him.

And @Tyrant Lizard. That would be very cool to see something like that.

My idea of a spinoff would probably be centered around different events taking place and then connecting throughout the film. Like a film focused on Wu and Ingen/Biosyn, but also having other characters and stories on the side(like a little girl with a pet Dino).

I remember a thread in JPL about adapting several other Crichton novels as spin-offs. They'd contain a lot of focus on genetic modification not on dinosaurs. It would be cool if JW2 mentions that several companies are beginning to move away from dinosaurs and into other things, and that would set up the spin-offs.

For the longest time, I've entertained the idea that the Sequel Trilogy that started with Jurassic World would have a definitive ending, and then we'd have six awesome (or not-so-awesome) dinosaur movies that can be enjoyed for years to come. After the sixth film, if Universal don't want to let it, they perhaps should consider branching out to other characters and settings along the lines of Star Wars would be very interesting.

This notion of the "JP spinoff" would work best if we're looking at deliberately smaller films (just like the first one was, in a fashion) with greater emphasis on characters over set-pieces. The new characters could be scientists, as Spino suggested, and offer a greater level of insight into the dinosaurs. In a sense, one could imagine that once the new trilogy is wrapped up, and the official "main story" is concluded, the spin-offs could allow audiences to indulge in the JP Universe without there needing to be world-changing events and plotlines. I would much prefer this over Universal pulling a "Fast & Furious" on the JP series and just make it a naked cash-grab ruled by sexy action stars and over-the-top set-pieces.

The few spinoff ideas I do have would also add more creature variety to the franchise. If the "main story" mainly features dinosaurs (and usually the most popular ones), the spin-offs could feature Ice Age animals like Mammoths, Megaloceros, Smilodons, Wooly Rhinos and other Pleistocene fauna. They could set it in a facility in Siberia and instead of containing a breakout, they try to determine how an extinct ecosystem re-asserts itself. I would also be more open to a Jaws-esque story involving marine reptiles (including Plesiosaurs and Ichthyosaurs) causing havoc for people working or living on the coast and at sea, maybe even involving a submarine that's attacked by a Mosasaur (think along the lines of Hunt For Red October). Essentially you have other facets of prehistoric life on display in the spin-offs without the need to just throw them in without knowing how to use them.

Another thing that I've been wanting to see since the trailer for JW landed was an animation or comic series that covered the 14 years between JP3 and JW, taking cues from the creative minds behind Masrani Global website and the Backdoor site. We still have many questions for just how InGen and Masrani Global were able to secure interest in a new theme park, securing Isla Nublar and taking care of the dinosaur inhabitants. The scrapped JP animated series could be re-tooled into an official animated series that acts as a prequel to Jurassic World, and serving as a bridge between the new and old trilogies.

Good news, we are getting the editor of "A Monster Calls, The Impossible, Pans Labyrinth & Crimson Peak" according to Bayona :

https://twitter.com/FilmBayona/status/814579715621158912

dance2nite wrote:

Good news, we are getting the editor of "A Monster Calls, The Impossible, Pans Labyrinth & Crimson Peak" according to Bayona :

https://twitter.com/FilmBayona/status/814579715621158912

Awesomesauce.

Damn, this film is shaping up to be a real doozy.

Things are really shaping up!

Bayona's doing well with getting great people to work on this and I couldn't be happier!

I wonder when we will get the casting of Lucy? It seems to be taking a long time since they started the audition process nearly 3 months ago in October. Wonder what the hold up is?

dance2nite wrote:

I wonder when we will get the casting of Lucy? It seems to be taking a long time since they started the audition process nearly 3 months ago in October. Wonder what the hold up is?

We still have the entire month of january ahead of us. I am sure we will get some casting news this month. Its pretty much guaranteed, with filming starting end of february.

Bayona may try to find a small role for Geraldine Chaplin? :

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/76980

dance2nite wrote:

Bayona may try to find a small role for Geraldine Chaplin? :

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/76980

Yeah, saw and took note of that earlier in the day. I think it was really more the interviewer saying that then Bayona though. But Bayona did say he would be open to it. Also her roles in his other movies are really minor though.

Just came to think, don't know if this is the right topic for it so sorry if it's a little off topic but...If we get to see Nublar again, what if Wu never left the island?? What if we get to know new places never explored on Nublar, and even old JP instalations?