General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3

brunofernando wrote:

We got our first Jurassic World images in April, 2016 in the Entertaiment Weekly magazine.
Just release a new still so we can have something to discuss about ):

April 2014, you mean? 2016 would have been rather anti-climatic.

But yes, we obviously could use some news. Ideally we should get something in the fall, the trailer at the very least.

According to Chris Pugh (ChrisLikesDinos) on Twitter, he is hearing the trailer MAY be attached to "The Last Jedi" but that it will premiere online earlier (most likely late November around Thanksgiving like JW did).

That seems likely, as it's another big franchise continuation. The JW trailer played before the last Hobbit movie back in 2014.

dance2nite wrote:

According to Chris Pugh (ChrisLikesDinos) on Twitter, he is hearing the trailer MAY be attached to "The Last Jedi" but that it will premiere online earlier (most likely late November around Thanksgiving like JW did).

I wonder if it'll appear online extra early, in unfinished form

Robotpo wrote:

brunofernando wrote:

We got our first Jurassic World images in April, 2016 in the Entertaiment Weekly magazine.
Just release a new still so we can have something to discuss about ):

April 2014, you mean? 2016 would have been rather anti-climatic.

But yes, we obviously could use some news. Ideally we should get something in the fall, the trailer at the very least.

lol, yeah, 2014! Sorry!

Troyal1 wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

According to Chris Pugh (ChrisLikesDinos) on Twitter, he is hearing the trailer MAY be attached to "The Last Jedi" but that it will premiere online earlier (most likely late November around Thanksgiving like JW did).

I wonder if it'll appear online extra early, in unfinished form

Knowing the fandom it would get grabbed and run on instagram first for meaningless clicks,

and then people would start posting it openly on twitter. And then people would be like

"spoilers omg" and then the 'other' people would be like " "follow me and lets talk in dms if you want to talk the spoilers"

I know this is a bizarre concept because it would not work from a marketing standpoint at all(so it's never happening), but how would you guys feel about never getting a trailer at all?

It would be infuriating but an awesome experience to watch JP without seeing any footage whatsoever. Obviously I could do it on my own by avoiding all trailers but I don't have that kind of self control.

Troyal1 wrote:

I know this is a bizarre concept because it would not work from a marketing standpoint at all(so it's never happening), but how would you guys feel about never getting a trailer at all?

It would be infuriating but an awesome experience to watch JP without seeing any footage whatsoever. Obviously I could do it on my own by avoiding all trailers but I don't have that kind of self control.

I think only a few trailers (2 or 3) are necessary because we get major spoilers when there are so many trailers and TV Spots.

Dr. Wu wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

I know this is a bizarre concept because it would not work from a marketing standpoint at all(so it's never happening), but how would you guys feel about never getting a trailer at all?

It would be infuriating but an awesome experience to watch JP without seeing any footage whatsoever. Obviously I could do it on my own by avoiding all trailers but I don't have that kind of self control.

I think only a few trailers (2 or 3) are necessary because we get major spoilers when there are so many trailers and TV Spots.

Guys, this is going to be treated as a big blockbuster. Think like age of Ultron level where we had as many as 10 different tv spots before it was all over.

I know but I would just rather have 2 or 3 trailers to have less spoilers. It will of course have a lot more trailers but to me 2 or 3 would be just fine.

I bet another Thanksgiving night premiere (the NFL game on NBC) is a lock. I would also bet it will be attached to every print of The Last Jedi. Frank Marshall is married to Kathleen Kennedy (head honcho at Lucasfilm) and Colin is doing Episode 9. There is too much shared DNA for their not to be some cross marketing deals being made.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

Dr. Wu wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

I know this is a bizarre concept because it would not work from a marketing standpoint at all(so it's never happening), but how would you guys feel about never getting a trailer at all?

It would be infuriating but an awesome experience to watch JP without seeing any footage whatsoever. Obviously I could do it on my own by avoiding all trailers but I don't have that kind of self control.

I think only a few trailers (2 or 3) are necessary because we get major spoilers when there are so many trailers and TV Spots.

Guys, this is going to be treated as a big blockbuster. Think like age of Ultron level where we had as many as 10 different tv spots before it was all over.

Yep. We already had a pretty crazy amount of tv spots for JW.

Dr. Wu wrote:

I know but I would just rather have 2 or 3 trailers to have less spoilers. It will of course have a lot more trailers but to me 2 or 3 would be just fine.

I would say every single death except for Lockwood's will probably be spoiled in trailers.

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

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What do u think the trial may be about?

dance2nite wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

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What do u think the trial may be about?

Well maybe property rights. Culpability for Jurassic World incident? Maybe even Ingen suing costa rica for the rights to remove the dinosaurs off of Nublar...with Lockwood making 'evidence' that the dinosaurs will be in imminent danger aka volcano if not removed.

Also Malcolm may be there as the dino expert about nobler.

What is the source for this, if any? It's not particularly coherent. What is a "corporate court room"? Since when do corporations have their own courts? Who or what are the "specials", and why is Malcolm "standing trial"?

This seems made up, IMO...or it's just really badly described.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here"

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here"

When TLW stopped being canon?

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here"

When TLW stopped being canon?

It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here"

When TLW stopped being canon?

It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even.

To be fair, you can blame Universal for starting this mess for not ensuring that TLW is hard canon back when they were making JW.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here"

When TLW stopped being canon?

It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even.

To be fair, you can blame Universal for starting this mess for not ensuring that TLW is hard canon back when they were making JW.

I think it's kind of obvious it's still canon. Why would they have to say it?

brunofernando wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

IllOrfanato wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Some new info regrading Malcolm's involvement :

Spoiler:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX80wAfFh9-/?hl=en&taken-by=jurassic_world2018

Interesting, on IMDB there is someone cast as a "senator's aid".

I see people are getting so literal at this point they dont want to even just have the possibility he's probably there as an expert witness for this trial or whatever.

I thought few months ago (and also wrote somewhere one the internet), that it would be a good idea to have some sort of court scene, where dialogues between characters could wrap-up / retcon the events between movies. And I see, that there is a real chance of having this idea in the movie.

I think if Malcolm is an expert witness at a trial, all that is needed to make TLW still canon is for him to say something like "I ran from dinosaurs two separate times so I'm the expert here"

When TLW stopped being canon?

It never did, just people started saying that without basis to the point where they started believing it even.

To be fair, you can blame Universal for starting this mess for not ensuring that TLW is hard canon back when they were making JW.

I think it's kind of obvious it's still canon. Why would they have to say it?

Because in a few interviews, Trevorrow made it seem like it they weren't by saying that this was a direct sequel to the original JP movie. He clarified that TLW and JP3 were still canon, but since then many fans have thought otherwise.

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?

I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency  to actually include the whole fan base.

There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.

It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.

Rant over: sorry.

Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much?

Troyal1 wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?

I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency  to actually include the whole fan base.

There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.

It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.

Rant over: sorry.

Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much?

I don't particularly hate JP///, and I certainly don't want it retconned out, but I do find it inferior. In fact, I actually think I've been unfairly harsh towards the movie in the past.

Troyal1 wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?

I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency  to actually include the whole fan base.

There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.

It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.

Rant over: sorry.

Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much?

was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw.