General Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom News Thread V.3

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?

I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency  to actually include the whole fan base.

There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.

It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.

Rant over: sorry.

Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much?

was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw.

Ehhh, one of the official social media accounts (I believe it was Twitter) was tweeting out "facts" about JW and I believe they worded it in a way which directly implied it was the same animal. A huge debate ensued. I will try and link it.

Picture: https://www.reddit.com/r/JurassicPark/comments/65qtev/the_spinosaurus_in_jurassic_park_3_is_the_same/

Discussion
https://jurassicmainframe.forumotion.com/t1009-universal-s-attempt-to-make-the-jw-spino-skeleton-that-of-the-jp3-spino

Troyal1 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?

I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency  to actually include the whole fan base.

There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.

It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.

Rant over: sorry.

Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much?

was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw.

Ehhh, one of the official social media accounts (I believe it was Twitter) was tweeting out "facts" about JW and I believe they worded it in a way which directly implied it was the same animal. A huge debate ensued. I will try and link it.

https://jurassicmainframe.forumotion.com/t1009-universal-s-attempt-to-make-the-jw-spino-skeleton-that-of-the-jp3-spino

I wouldn't call a debate as so much as it was a venting post since most of the fans could tell the differences between the skeleton and the JP3 Spino, which didn't look alike all that much, if at all.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

There's also been the careless handling of the two JP sequels since 2001. Universal just seems content in pretending that things would be better if those movies weren't focussed on. They even got the title of TLW wrong in one of their latest JW companion books. Not to mention that the few references we DO get to TLW and JP/// are bare bones at most, and little of which in the films itself. And no, I do not count dialogue mirroring or score callbacks as *real* references to the events that occurred in those films. What little references that we DO get are from the viral sites, which most of the general audience don't even know exist, and from background images in the Innovation Center that nobody but us die-hard fans will notice. All of these facts have led many fans and general audiences to believe that TLW and JP/// are being "dropped" from the timeline, and that they are okay with being forgotten.

My only hope now is that with Malcolm back for a cameo in Fallen Kingdom, that we'll get concrete references to TLW, at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is odd considering how most fans love TLW. I get why Universal is embarassed by JP3, but they only have themselves to blame on that part since it was only made for the sake of a JP trilogy. Why they don't just keep TLW as canon but kick out JP3 from the canon (Let's face it, it didn't really add much the franchise and the one thing it did, the Spinosaurus, was terribly executed and it will never get an explanation of how it came to be.) is beyond me.

I know you guys don't like JP3 and that's fine, but even I'm appalled by how it's being treated. I mean of course TLW deserves to be recognized more... but the Spino skeleton in JW being the one from JP3? Are you fucking kidding me?

I mean as much as I sh*t on Disney even they don't completely ignore the prequels even though some fans absolutely despise them. Atleast they have some decency  to actually include the whole fan base.

There are plenty of cool opportunities to acknowledge JP3, the reason spino was a monster and we could even see what the scientific Spino looked like. But probably never will.

It's sad that the people on the forum have more interest and better ideas than the writers on including the sequels.

Rant over: sorry.

Oh and one more thing. Why do the writers hate the Dilophosaur so much?

was that even confirmed? (spino skeleton being the one from jp3) either way most people dont like jp3 and Tlw seems mixed, but mentioning things from the previous two movies could be very possible in fallen kingdom. With malcolm coming back there has to be mention of his time in the tlw.

Ehhh, one of the official social media accounts (I believe it was Twitter) was tweeting out "facts" about JW and I believe they worded it in a way which directly implied it was the same animal. A huge debate ensued. I will try and link it.

https://jurassicmainframe.forumotion.com/t1009-universal-s-attempt-to-make-the-jw-spino-skeleton-that-of-the-jp3-spino

I wouldn't call a debate as so much as it was a venting post since most of the fans could tell the differences between the skeleton and the JP3 Spino, which didn't look alike all that much, if at all.

Yeah it was more of a "huh?? Say what?" topic

http://www.etonline.com/emmy-first-timers-bd-wong-mr-robot-85743


Okay, this is interesting. IF WU SURVIVES this movie, I'm going to lose my sh*t. Please make it happen. By the way, I want an Oppenheimmer type speech from Wu in defense of science. MAKE IT BAYONA.

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Lego Sets Info. (Just how many sets there'll be no pics or what the sets are.)

https://www.pintaram.com/u/lego_peru/1586590499890853803_5390876068

5 Normal Sets
3 Juniors Sets
2 Duplo Sets

They'll be out in April.


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Oviraptor wrote:

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Lego Sets Info. (Just how many sets there'll be no pics or what the sets are.)

https://www.pintaram.com/u/lego_peru/1586590499890853803_5390876068

5 Normal Sets
3 Juniors Sets
2 Duplo Sets

They'll be out in April.


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Nice find Ovi! (Welcome back btw)

So interesting that they are marketing it much more to kids this time around.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

Oviraptor wrote:

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Lego Sets Info. (Just how many sets there'll be no pics or what the sets are.)

https://www.pintaram.com/u/lego_peru/1586590499890853803_5390876068

5 Normal Sets
3 Juniors Sets
2 Duplo Sets

They'll be out in April.


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Nice find Ovi! (Welcome back btw)

So interesting that they are marketing it much more to kids this time around.

They want to make sure the kids get scared . Assuming they are telling the truth about this one being more horror esq.

I don't think they meant it was specifically that Spinosaurus rather than it was the same type of Dinosaur from JP3 for the casual fans.

I don't think they meant it was specifically that Spinosaurus rather than it was the same type of Dinosaur from JP3 for the casual fans.

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Yes but Wu has wanted to create them for a long time. I think most of the normal Dinosaurs will be sold off to buyers from around the world at the Manor before Lockwood's final presentation of the Indoraptor but it/they escape their pens (kill Wu) & hunt down the rest of the cast in the manor. I also believe that earlier report that Raptors attack the Manor from the roof is actually somewhat false & the source got confused as it will actually be the Indoraptor(s) that attack the manor as I believe Blue may be the only normal raptor we see at the manor/auction.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Part of me still thinks that the Indoraptor is actually being made to sabotage the whole thing and that it's being orchestrated by another company.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Part of me still thinks that the Indoraptor is actually being made to sabotage the whole thing and that it's being orchestrated by another company.

Me an intellectual with a plot twist x2000.

Wu releases Indoraptor once he realizes that Lockwood is just selling the dinosaurs for gain, including the ones he wanted to keep for research

dance2nite wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Yes but Wu has wanted to create them for a long time. I think most of the normal Dinosaurs will be sold off to buyers from around the world at the Manor before Lockwood's final presentation of the Indoraptor but it/they escape their pens (kill Wu) & hunt down the rest of the cast in the manor. I also believe that earlier report that Raptors attack the Manor from the roof is actually somewhat false & the source got confused as it will actually be the Indoraptor(s) that attack the manor as I believe Blue may be the only normal raptor we see at the manor/auction.

I think it's Stygimoloch. The leaked Dinosaurs list said Stygimoloch has a special role. And, Stygimoloch puppet closed its eyes at cage on London set. I think Dino buyer will buy Stygimoloch at auction on Lockwood's manor.

JP_Korea wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Yes but Wu has wanted to create them for a long time. I think most of the normal Dinosaurs will be sold off to buyers from around the world at the Manor before Lockwood's final presentation of the Indoraptor but it/they escape their pens (kill Wu) & hunt down the rest of the cast in the manor. I also believe that earlier report that Raptors attack the Manor from the roof is actually somewhat false & the source got confused as it will actually be the Indoraptor(s) that attack the manor as I believe Blue may be the only normal raptor we see at the manor/auction.

I think it's Stygimoloch. The leaked Dinosaurs list said Stygimoloch has a special role. And, Stygimoloch puppet closed its eyes at cage on London set. I think Dino buyer will buy Stygimoloch at auction on Lockwood's manor.

I think alot of Dinosaurs will be sold off, not just Stygimoloch!

dance2nite wrote:

JP_Korea wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

A

Spoiler:

has just appeared on JW FK's IMDB cast list so I think its now pretty much ok to say there will be a auction at Lockwood's Manor.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/fullcredits/

I think its pretty fair to say the other obvious thing too. That the Indoraptor is being specially bred for that auction.

Yes but Wu has wanted to create them for a long time. I think most of the normal Dinosaurs will be sold off to buyers from around the world at the Manor before Lockwood's final presentation of the Indoraptor but it/they escape their pens (kill Wu) & hunt down the rest of the cast in the manor. I also believe that earlier report that Raptors attack the Manor from the roof is actually somewhat false & the source got confused as it will actually be the Indoraptor(s) that attack the manor as I believe Blue may be the only normal raptor we see at the manor/auction.

I think it's Stygimoloch. The leaked Dinosaurs list said Stygimoloch has a special role. And, Stygimoloch puppet closed its eyes at cage on London set. I think Dino buyer will buy Stygimoloch at auction on Lockwood's manor.

I think alot of Dinosaurs will be sold off, not just Stygimoloch!

I wonder how much of buyers will get killed and/or eaten.

I wonder if Owen and Claire pull a Nick Van Owen and are involved in derailing the auction somehow - perhaps unintentionally releasing the Indoraptor, which they then need to stop. They ideally should be involved in propelling the story forward as more than mere spectators and/or Lockwood's dupes.

Robotpo wrote:

I wonder if Owen and Claire pull a Nick Van Owen and are involved in derailing the auction somehow - perhaps unintentionally releasing the Indoraptor, which they then need to stop. They ideally should be involved in propelling the story forward as more than mere spectators and/or Lockwood's dupes.

D

They will look pretty stupid like Nick did by releasing the Dinosaurs, causing more havoc, innocent deaths & the letting them escape into the nearby forests so I hope not.

JP_Korea wrote:

I think it's Stygimoloch. The leaked Dinosaurs list said Stygimoloch has a special role. And, Stygimoloch puppet closed its eyes at cage on London set. I think Dino buyer will buy Stygimoloch at auction on Lockwood's manor.

For some reason I believe, that so-called Stygimoloch/adult Pachycephalosaurus might have a role described in TLW Novel. Namely the herd of them surrounding vehicle and person/people trying to escape them. It is cool to have badass herbivore.

Yeah, I hope Claire and Owen aren't involved in releasing the Indoraptor. Like mentioned above, one of the things many hated about the characters in TLW is that they made things worse and caused deaths of even more people.

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Yeah, I hope Claire and Owen aren't involved in releasing the Indoraptor. Like mentioned above, one of the things many hated about the characters in TLW is that they made things worse and caused deaths of even more people.

I have a feeling it may be Wu who releases it.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Yeah, I hope Claire and Owen aren't involved in releasing the Indoraptor. Like mentioned above, one of the things many hated about the characters in TLW is that they made things worse and caused deaths of even more people.

I have a feeling it may be Wu who releases it.

We know how smart the raptors are as well as how remarkably intelligent I. rex was. Given how Indoraptor has the DNA of both animals for a base, it being smart enough to free itself isn't out of the question, either.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

Six-Foot Turkey wrote:

Yeah, I hope Claire and Owen aren't involved in releasing the Indoraptor. Like mentioned above, one of the things many hated about the characters in TLW is that they made things worse and caused deaths of even more people.

I have a feeling it may be Wu who releases it.

We know how smart the raptors are as well as how remarkably intelligent I. rex was. Given how Indoraptor has the DNA of both animals for a base, it being smart enough to free itself isn't out of the question, either.

I think the Indoraptor(s) will free itself/themselves? too, a person would be incredibly stupid to free it themselves...

And considering how many of JW's criticisms centered around the lack of intelligence shown by the characters in vital situations, it would take a boneheaded move like this to really add unwanted fuel to their fires.

Yea i wonder if Colin has found a way to make the dinosaurs escaping not make any of our characters seem extremely dumb. perhaps a 3rd party we are un aware of is involved. i can picture an extreme version of the PETA organization freeing the dinosaurs.

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Yea i wonder if Colin has found a way to make the dinosaurs escaping not make any of our characters seem extremely dumb. perhaps a 3rd party we are un aware of is involved. i can picture an extreme version of the PETA organization freeing the dinosaurs.

Or possibly BioSyn, this time succeeding in their latest sabotage of InGen...

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

Herrerasaurus wrote:

Yea i wonder if Colin has found a way to make the dinosaurs escaping not make any of our characters seem extremely dumb. perhaps a 3rd party we are un aware of is involved. i can picture an extreme version of the PETA organization freeing the dinosaurs.

Or possibly BioSyn, this time succeeding in their latest sabotage of InGen...

That would be the best way to have people releasing it via Wu being a Biosyn agent.

If Owen and Claire or even that stupid useless kid ends up releasing Indoraptor/the dinosaurs, I'll hate them forever and root for them to get killed. Like seriously, this would be even more stupid than Nick van Asshole as an eco terrorist putting a lot of lifes in danger. This would be as immoral as Dr. Wu experiments. They would be no better.

I hope Malcolm plays a good part in putting Owen and Claire in their place and teaching them some lessons.

And Wu releasing Indoraptor? Can't see it. Why would he do it, why would he risk his own life? The only way I can see Wu pulling a mad scientist action is IF someone actually stops his work. But that would be a very extreme situation.

I think the best scenario is for Indominus to free itself/themselfes. Like, outsmart Dr. Wu.

Spinosaur4.4 wrote:

If Owen and Claire or even that stupid useless kid ends up releasing Indoraptor/the dinosaurs, I'll hate them forever and root for them to get killed. Like seriously, this would be even more stupid than Nick van Asshole as an eco terrorist putting a lot of lifes in danger. This would be as immoral as Dr. Wu experiments. They would be no better.

I hope Malcolm plays a good part in putting Owen and Claire in their place and teaching them some lessons.

And Wu releasing Indoraptor? Can't see it. Why would he do it, why would he risk his own life? The only way I can see Wu pulling a mad scientist action is IF someone actually stops his work. But that would be a very extreme situation.

I think the best scenario is for Indominus to free itself/themselfes. Like, outsmart Dr. Wu.

I get why Malcolm would want to put Claire in her place for her lack of respect for the dangers of the Dinosaurs, but why Owen?