Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Thu May 31, 2018 5:27 am
I want to know about the deaths and how the indoraptor dies
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Thu May 31, 2018 7:35 am
Isoka13 wrote:
I want to know about the deaths and how the indoraptor dies
Spoiler:
Mills >> gets eaten by Rexy when he tries to scape with the Indominus tooth. Eversoll >> killed by Indoraptor inside the elevator (you can see parts of this scene in the first behind the scenes released) Wheatley >> killed by Indoraptor when he goes inside the cage to extract a tooth. Indoraptor >> falls from the roof and gets impaled on the trike's horns. This was spoiled very early during the beginning of the shooting.
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Thu May 31, 2018 7:42 am
Sobek wrote:
Isoka13 wrote:
I want to know about the deaths and how the indoraptor dies
Spoiler:
Mills >> gets eaten by Rexy when he tries to scape with the Indominus tooth. Eversoll >> killed by Indoraptor inside the elevator (you can see parts of this scene in the first behind the scenes released) Wheatley >> killed by Indoraptor when he goes inside the cage to extract a tooth. Indoraptor >> falls from the roof and gets impaled on the trike's horns. This was spoiled very early during the beginning of the shooting.
What happens to Wu after
Spoiler:
Franklin knocks him out
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Thu May 31, 2018 7:45 am
What is that Malaise spoiler that is unconfirmed? I am dying to know
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Thu May 31, 2018 7:55 am
What happens to the submarine?
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Thu May 31, 2018 8:24 am
Does Lockwood die and is the Ingen Contractor in the film and if so what does he do?
Not sure. I think he gets knocked out and that's it. Probably arrested?
Any idea on why the shot of the eye is cut?
Also new footage. Shows more of the same but looks a bit brutal in that it confirms
Spoiler:
Ted Levine loves to torture the animals by taking teeth.
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:31 am
Does anyone know anything regarding Owen and Claire by any chance?
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:37 am
100% confirmed
Spoiler:
They are in the movie Sorry I had to!
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:32 am
Do we know if Parasaurolophus is mentioned in the junior novel? I did see that it is in the JW:FK poster book. But I’ve not seen any confirmation of it appearing in the film.
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:02 am
What's the deal with Lockwood?
I mean, it seems kind of weird that everyone would be so enigmatic about such an important character, unless there was some big twist regarding him.
Firstly, James Cromwell doesn't appear on any of the on-set featurettes or give us any insight about the character (in fact he doesn't appear to have been interviewed about the film, period). Could this be because saying anything about the character might give some big twist away?
Secondly, the producers rather enigmatically stated that they didn't believe Lockwood was a villain per se, which indicates that he does something that some audiences will construe as antagonistic. Another article stated that, whilst he would not be "an outright villain", he would have "questionable ways of dealing with the situation". And the dino-auction that Gunnar is running is happening in the basement of Lockwood's goddamn mansion, so it's impossible that he wouldn't know what's going on.
Either A) Lockwood is the main villain of the film who manipulated Owen and Claire, and has orchestrated both the dinosaur auction and the Indoraptor's creation. B) Lockwood is suffering from some kind of terminal illness or something, his last wishes are for the dinosaurs to be transported to some reserve. However, he dies very early on in the film, maybe even before they leave for Nublar, and the scenes in his mansion happen after he has died.
Which one is closer to being the truth?
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:38 am
From what it seems a bit of A and B
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I mean, it seems kind of weird that everyone would be so enigmatic about such an important character, unless there was some big twist regarding him.
Firstly, James Cromwell doesn't appear on any of the on-set featurettes or give us any insight about the character (in fact he doesn't appear to have been interviewed about the film, period). Could this be because saying anything about the character might give some big twist away?
Secondly, the producers rather enigmatically stated that they didn't believe Lockwood was a villain per se, which indicates that he does something that some audiences will construe as antagonistic. Another article stated that, whilst he would not be "an outright villain", he would have "questionable ways of dealing with the situation". And the dino-auction that Gunnar is running is happening in the basement of Lockwood's goddamn mansion, so it's impossible that he wouldn't know what's going on.
Either A) Lockwood is the main villain of the film who manipulated Owen and Claire, and has orchestrated both the dinosaur auction and the Indoraptor's creation. B) Lockwood is suffering from some kind of terminal illness or something, his last wishes are for the dinosaurs to be transported to some reserve. However, he dies very early on in the film, maybe even before they leave for Nublar, and the scenes in his mansion happen after he has died.
Which one is closer to being the truth?
From what I've read
Spoiler:
a bit more of B). Lockwood was an associate of Hammond and indeed does want the dinosaurs protected. It's the people behind him with Wu that want them sold and used for military application. He has scenes early, and then scenes later, because the junior novelization claims one of his guys (I forgot which but it's in this thread) poisons him through his IV and kills Lockwood at the end of the film.
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Oh please. Websites are the cheapest and laziest way of ensuring that canon is so. with a finished cartoon, movie, or book, once it's finished, it's done. It's solid, concrete, hardened. With a website, it can still be changed on a whim. It's too fluid. Too maluable. Also, the game was barely semi-canon to being with and poor sales did not help. Sorry, but between how they treated Sorna like shit and how they did this in the laziest way possible, is it any wonder why people treat this new trilogy like a different timeline? It's not much different then how SW fans look at the TLJ, even more so considering how KK threw out the old EU. But even then, KK had enough common sense due to the fan outrage to re-canonize much of that. Say what you want about Rouge One (which I really like) and Solo, but at least they keep the PT has hard canon. Even TFA did that. This JW trilogy doesn't do that at all.
Really, I'm stunned about how many fans are just willing to just accept all of this, no questions asked. And even IF this movie ensures that these dumbass sites are canon, then is it really worth destroying the past for the sake of what's going on in the here and now?
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Don’t appreciate the tone dude. Not once did I disagree with anything or say anyThing against it. Was just pointing out what is in play. In reality it’s no different to people not realising that Star Wars comics and Novels are canon. We might see Sorna in the Claire Novel. Whether we like it or not the game and the websites are canon. I don’t agree with how Sorna has been handled but there isn’t much point harping on about something that’s not going to change.
Except that JW changed the continuality to the point where it basically ret-conned the game out as canon. So, claiming that it is when JW changed so much is a mute point.
As for not harping on things that won't change. That's a defeatist mindset. Look at how the backlash against Zilla 98 was so strong that it killed off the sequel and forced Toho to bring back the real Godzilla in 2000. If a fanbase that's much smaller and niche then us can make a difference, then why can't we?
Sobek wrote:
The big plot twist was planned from the beggining, but was ommited from the novel for some reason.
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As for Sorna, it is not mentioned by name in the movie, but they do talk about the 'other island'. That's about it.
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Spinosaurus, multiple Indoraptors and possibly Metriacanthosaurus all appeared in earlier drafts. Spinosaurus was possibly replaced by Carnotaurus and Metriacanthosaurus by Allosaurus.
Whu is Universal/Spielberg so hellbent on treating Sorna like crap? Do they really just not care?
I’m literally done having conversation with you if that’s how you are going to be. You didn’t even take the time to address how shitty you spoke,and continue to speak to me and other members.
Clearly your word/say opinion whatever the hell it is, is better and more true than anyone else. So there’s no reasoning. It’s honestly quite poisonous and needs to stop. We value your membership here but I think you take your signature way to literally. Maybe take a step back for five minutes and think.
Fair enough. I was harsh on you and I won't blame you for neg-repping me since I did deserve it.
Be that as it may, I do take umbrage to you saying how my views are 'poisonous'. Here's why. Considering how poorly the canon is being treated is, it really bothers me that fans are just willing to just accept it and not make themselves more vocal. Think about it, if Ghostbusters fans voiced their displeasure over GB 2016 and Godzilla fans REALLY voiced their displeasure via Zilla '98, and if both the Ghostbusters franchise and the Godzilla franchise are more niche then this one, then why can't we do the same here? I admit that I can sound slightly repetitive, but if nobody voices their displeasure, then things will only get worse. Don't you think that doing nothing is even worse?
In other words, if the fans who wanted a Rex vs. Spino rematch with T. rex winning got themselves noticed, then why can't the majority of the JP fanbase get themselves noticed about something that most of the fans CAN unite over? The reason why I'm frustrated is because I'm amazed that few people are getting upset then if this happened to most other fans of franchises. Again, I was wrong in being aggressive and I admit, I deserved to be neg-repped by you. But please don't try to attack my reasons for being upset.
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# 19 seems to confirm a recent spoiler concerning the character.
Do we know if Parasaurolophus is mentioned in the junior novel? I did see that it is in the JW:FK poster book. But I’ve not seen any confirmation of it appearing in the film.
Not sure if it is mentioned, but rumor has it Para appears briefly inside the manor.
Do we know if Parasaurolophus is mentioned in the junior novel? I did see that it is in the JW:FK poster book. But I’ve not seen any confirmation of it appearing in the film.
Not sure if it is mentioned, but rumor has it Para appears briefly inside the manor.
I've heard this before - do we know where this rumor came from? Would be weird for a Parasaur to appear in the manor when we've seen no evidence that they are even on the island anymore.
Also, if someone wouldn't mind PMing me about the twist/big spoiler, I'd appreciate it!
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Do we know if Parasaurolophus is mentioned in the junior novel? I did see that it is in the JW:FK poster book. But I’ve not seen any confirmation of it appearing in the film.
Not sure if it is mentioned, but rumor has it Para appears briefly inside the manor.
I've heard this before - do we know where this rumor came from? Would be weird for a Parasaur to appear in the manor when we've seen no evidence that they are even on the island anymore.
Also, if someone wouldn't mind PMing me about the twist/big spoiler, I'd appreciate it!
I’m betting he means it appears as a statue, just like another fan favorite.
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:53 am
"There's something about Maisie" yeah that definitely confirms the thing about Lockwood many people will be divided on. Just how FAR it goes, im concerned, I hope it ends there, and it doesnt 'expand' further on what this might mean for the future.
Although for Wu, im pretty much convinced Wu will make himself useful. By inputting failsafes that ensure he will always be required to be around. Even by the protagonists.
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:19 am
Im really worried about the one track listing. Mega spoilers incoming
Spoiler:
Universal has done such a damn good job at hiding the fact about Maisie. And I know we have a certain member here who left Twitter just to avoid spoilers, but he’s really looking forward to the soundtrack. I tired to play dumb and tell him to close his eyes when the OST is released. And that there was nothing major but it showed some minor details. Hopefully most people won’t think anything of it.
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:02 am
How does Dr. Wu get a Indominus tooth if the submarine is destroyed by the Mosasaurus?
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:51 am
Dr. Wu wrote:
How does Dr. Wu get a Indominus tooth if the submarine is destroyed by the Mosasaurus?
Spoiler:
Here's the full description from reddit:
"The movie opens with a submarine traveling through murky black water. The gates to mosasaurus lagoon open and submarine enters, one of the pilots tells the other that "whatever was down here is dead by now. The words "Isla Nublar 20 miles off the coast of Costa Rica appear. The submarine finds the Indominus Rex's skeleton and cuts off a piece which causes it float to the surface where we pan up and see the silloute of the mosasuar thats revealed by lightening. It's really creepy. We then see a helicopter retrieve the bone.We cut back to under the water and we see the mosasaur slowly sneak up on the sub, just as it's about to bite we cut to the surface of the lagoon and see a light under the surface but then it suddenly goes out. Then we see a guy in a yellow raincoat by some exposed wiring and he has an ipad type thing he is using to open the doors to the lagoon and the guys on the helicopter are telling him to shut the door. Rexy is stalking him and the guys on the chopper are trying to warn him, he keeps looking away when the lightening makes her visible. She then starts to chase him and he runs towards the helicopter and stops closing the lagoon doors leaving them open, you can really feel the weight behind Rexy and it's pretty scary. They lower a ladder from the chopper and the guy gets on it. Narrowly avoiding a bite from Rexy. Rexy grabs the other end of the ladder as the guy tries to climb it and shakes it violently as the guy holds on for dear life. Rexy lets go and the chopper gets away, except the mosasaur leaps out of the water and eats the guy and pulls the ladder off. The chopper gets away with the I. Rex bone and the marine reptile swims out of the lagoon."
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:14 am
Could someone PM me every spoilers?? I saw this thread now. I'm so curious
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Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:10 pm
Sickle_Claw wrote:
"There's something about Maisie" yeah that definitely confirms the thing about Lockwood many people will be divided on. Just how FAR it goes, im concerned, I hope it ends there, and it doesnt 'expand' further on what this might mean for the future.
Although for Wu, im pretty much convinced Wu will make himself useful. By inputting failsafes that ensure he will always be required to be around. Even by the protagonists.
I'm not against the big Maisie deal. Let's face it, it was inevitable that this franchise would do something like this movie does. To be fair, it's more likely that I'm too pissed off about how the first 2 sequels/Sorna has been treated to get upset about this.
In any case, I agree with Sickle Claw about being worried about how far this might go.
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Thu May 31, 2018 5:27 am
Sorry I had to!
