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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:06 pm | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- So...Ive talked to at least two people who are convinced Maisie has at least some dino dna in her.
I honestly hope this isn't the case, because if this does happen/gets confirmed, then a lot of people are going to walk away from the franchise for good.Just keep the humanoid dinosaurs back in Super Mario Bros. Please. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
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BarrytheOnyx Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:09 pm | |
| All right, take it from someone who has seen the film: - Spoiler:
There is ZERO evidence that suggests Maisie has dinosaur DNA, there are some visual connections made between Maisie and the dinos, when she sees the Indoraptor's teeth in her reflection. And the fact that she is a human clone gives her a unique perspective on the dinosaurs as creatures with their own rights to live.
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Rhedosaurus Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:15 pm | |
| - BarrytheOnyx wrote:
- All right, take it from someone who has seen the film:
- Spoiler:
There is ZERO evidence that suggests Maisie has dinosaur DNA, there are some visual connections made between Maisie and the dinos, when she sees the Indoraptor's teeth in her reflection. And the fact that she is a human clone gives her a unique perspective on the dinosaurs as creatures with their own rights to live.
Good. I hope that it stays like that. _______________ The undisputed dominant predator of Jurassic Mainframe.
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Cbaitson Hatchling
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:42 pm | |
| Well. It’s online. It’s a good copy. You all know where to look if you’re interested. But I will say this. Go see it in cinema first! _______________ Follow me on Twitter @ChrisBaitson Follow me on Instagram cbaitson
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BarrytheOnyx Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:01 pm | |
| - Cbaitson wrote:
- Well. It’s online. It’s a good copy. You all know where to look if you’re interested. But I will say this. Go see it in cinema first!
Ummm, not sure I feel good at all about supporting piracy in any way, shape or form. Besides, if a film like The Last Jedi can get to the $1. 3 billion mark with slews of fans put off by the direction of the franchise, there is no reason Fallen Kingdom should be allowed to sag behind it. _______________ "Life will find a way." | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:40 pm | |
| I've been to see it today for the second time. Still glorious! God, I love this movie. And I just want to mention just how much of an Indiana Jones vibe this film gives off. The way they used shadows, reflections, low angled shots, camera movement and vehicles/props. And the sheer pace of the film just felt super adventurous, just like Indiana Jones! A really refreshing vibe for the franchise! | |
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Robotpo Nublar Velociraptor
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:38 pm | |
| Agreed, it's a roller coaster ride. This film, even more so than TLW, is Indy-esque, in particular because it's about man vs man as opposed to man vs nature or man vs beast.
The fight scene with Owen and the mercenaries was what Indy would look like ion 2018. | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:42 pm | |
| - Robotpo wrote:
- Agreed, it's a roller coaster ride. This film, even more so than TLW, is Indy-esque, in particular because it's about man vs man as opposed to man vs nature or man vs beast.
The fight scene with Owen and the mercenaries was what Indy would look like ion 2018. Yes! That fight scene! And the cartoony villain characters and the scene where they're scoping the dock with the binoculars! | |
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IllOrfanato Compsognathus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:53 pm | |
| I would like to ask about something. As we know, the entire third act for this movie was rewritten: https://jurassicoutpost.com/appears-entire-ending-jurassic-world-2-rewritten-not-bad-thing/ Has anyone got any idea what was the original ending about? I am reading reviews (still havent seems the movie) stating that JWFK is like two films in one and their tone is not really playing well with each other. @Sobek - aby news regarding this matter? | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:27 pm | |
| Anyone noticed how the scene where mills confronts Maisie, Owen and Claire is different int the trailer? In the trailer, Mills is absent from the scene and Owen says “You have to get us out of here”. I wonder if that scene initially played out much different? | |
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Spinosaur4.4 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:33 pm | |
| I wonder how many scenes got cut. _______________ "Chaos theory is a pseudoscience you asshole" - Headcanon line from Sickle_ClawFormer JPL member, Spinosaur4.4. | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:39 pm | |
| There’s definitely a few. There is a scene in the BTs trailer that involves eversol and mills and eversol is being shown the indoraptor for the first time and he says “we gotta show this thing to the buyers”. Perhaps it was cut to better for the pacing of the movie. | |
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TheDreamMaster Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:52 am | |
| - Cbaitson wrote:
- Well. It’s online. It’s a good copy. You all know where to look if you’re interested. But I will say this. Go see it in cinema first!
I would like to remind we don't support piracy in any form. We are aware a few members may have seen leaked copies, but we have asked them not to mention said leaks if they want to talk about the film. So, if you have seen it this way, discuss, butdo not mention the piracy at all. Universal is aware of us, and we'd like to stay on good terms with them. Thanks. _______________ Make the Sayles JP IV script into an animated series! Admit it, you'd watch it. "We'll use the Force."- Finn "That's not how the Force works!"- Han Solo
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brunofernando Embryo
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:59 am | |
| When did Lockwood cloned Maisie? Because if Hammond and him parted ways because of that, she should be at least 25 years old. I don't know if I missed it, but I don't think they explained that.
He wanted to do it at that time but only managed now (I mean, 10 years ago, probably her age)? | |
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Troyal1 Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:07 am | |
| - brunofernando wrote:
- When did Lockwood cloned Maisie?
Because if Hammond and him parted ways because of that, she should be at least 25 years old. I don't know if I missed it, but I don't think they explained that.
He wanted to do it at that time but only managed now (I mean, 10 years ago, probably her age)? A side project for Wu years after Hammond died is my guess. Lockwood probably begged him for a while and Wu finally got comfortable enough to experiment on a human. I think it would have been awesome if we got a glimpse at a failed clone. That would be terrifying and really dark but still. | |
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:42 am | |
| - Troyal1 wrote:
- brunofernando wrote:
- When did Lockwood cloned Maisie?
Because if Hammond and him parted ways because of that, she should be at least 25 years old. I don't know if I missed it, but I don't think they explained that.
He wanted to do it at that time but only managed now (I mean, 10 years ago, probably her age)? A side project for Wu years after Hammond died is my guess. Lockwood probably begged him for a while and Wu finally got comfortable enough to experiment on a human.
I think it would have been awesome if we got a glimpse at a failed clone. That would be terrifying and really dark but still. So that would make Wu as Maisie's real 'father'? Damn thats dark. Wonder why Mills was so goddamned determined to get Maisie at the end too. I had a thought it could be bcause she was the sole heir of Lockwood mansion, but a darker part of me wonders if it has to do with the cloning process and all that. (but yeah the original Maisie would have been over 25 by now) _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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lblanc Embryo
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:08 am | |
| - Sickle_Claw wrote:
- Troyal1 wrote:
- brunofernando wrote:
- When did Lockwood cloned Maisie?
Because if Hammond and him parted ways because of that, she should be at least 25 years old. I don't know if I missed it, but I don't think they explained that.
He wanted to do it at that time but only managed now (I mean, 10 years ago, probably her age)? A side project for Wu years after Hammond died is my guess. Lockwood probably begged him for a while and Wu finally got comfortable enough to experiment on a human.
I think it would have been awesome if we got a glimpse at a failed clone. That would be terrifying and really dark but still. So that would make Wu as Maisie's real 'father'? Damn thats dark. Wonder why Mills was so goddamned determined to get Maisie at the end too. I had a thought it could be bcause she was the sole heir of Lockwood mansion, but a darker part of me wonders if it has to do with the cloning process and all that.
(but yeah the original Maisie would have been over 25 by now) Or she was cloned to stay at that age forever? | |
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Dilophosaurus Gallimimus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:44 am | |
| [quote="Sickle_Claw"][quote="Troyal1"] - brunofernando wrote:
- Wonder why Mills was so goddamned determined to get Maisie at the end too. I had a thought it could be bcause she was the sole heir of Lockwood mansion, but a darker part of me wonders if it has to do with the cloning process and all that.
Well she would be very valuable as the first ever human clone. Also maybe he actually did care about her a little? He said he was her legal guardian now. | |
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Dilophosaurus Gallimimus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:47 am | |
| - Six-Foot Turkey wrote:
- Anyone noticed how the scene where mills confronts Maisie, Owen and Claire is different int the trailer? In the trailer, Mills is absent from the scene and Owen says “You have to get us out of here”. I wonder if that scene initially played out much different?
I think that might have been done for the benefit of the Indoraptor jump scare. We weren't expecting it at that moment, also it comes straight after the clone reveal so the audience is distracted. It certainly worked on me. Also the Indoraptor takes out two guys in that scene now instead of one which was cool. | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:19 am | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:32 am | |
| “she would save them, you know. She would save all of them” love how this line ties into the ending! | |
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Dilophosaurus Gallimimus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:35 am | |
| - Six-Foot Turkey wrote:
- “she would save them, you know. She would save all of them” love how this line ties into the ending!
Yeah that was a great touch and something I definitely picked up on my second watch. | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:40 am | |
| The more I think about this film, the more intriguing it gets. I also believe the dialogue was a big improvement since Jurassic world. But yeah that line was nice setup and payoff | |
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V.a.nublarensis Dilophosaurus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:53 am | |
| I still don't get the scene where Mills is calling Wheatley right after Blue is captured and Maisie barges into the room like "Mr. Mills, the dinosaurs are-" | |
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Dilophosaurus Gallimimus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:59 am | |
| - V.a.nublarensis wrote:
- I still don't get the scene where Mills is calling Wheatley right after Blue is captured and Maisie barges into the room like "Mr. Mills, the dinosaurs are-"
She's talking about imaginary dinosaurs. She does the same at the beginning of the film with Lockwood and the nanny. She said she took a trip through the Cretaceous and the nanny didn't make it. | |
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V.a.nublarensis Dilophosaurus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:05 am | |
| - Dilophosaurus wrote:
- V.a.nublarensis wrote:
- I still don't get the scene where Mills is calling Wheatley right after Blue is captured and Maisie barges into the room like "Mr. Mills, the dinosaurs are-"
She's talking about imaginary dinosaurs. She does the same at the beginning of the film with Lockwood and the nanny. She said she took a trip through the Cretaceous and the nanny didn't make it. Okay, that makes sense. So she's definitely spent enough time with both Iris and Mills in her life to be able to play pretend with them. I do wonder how much time she's ever spent outside the mansion. She knows how to lockpick, has her own homemade elevator, and can walk through ledges. | |
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Six-Foot Turkey Triceratops
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:31 am | |
| I wanna know what happens to Iris in the end. Owen and Claire just seem to take Maisie with them and we never see where Iris goes or what happens to her. | |
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Dilophosaurus Gallimimus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:36 am | |
| - Six-Foot Turkey wrote:
- I wanna know what happens to Iris in the end. Owen and Claire just seem to take Maisie with them and we never see where Iris goes or what happens to her.
I just assumed that she left after Mills fired her. | |
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Sickle_Claw Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:38 am | |
| - Dilophosaurus wrote:
- Sickle_Claw wrote:
- Troyal1 wrote:
- brunofernando wrote:
- Wonder why Mills was so goddamned determined to get Maisie at the end too. I had a thought it could be bcause she was the sole heir of Lockwood mansion, but a darker part of me wonders if it has to do with the cloning process and all that.
Well she would be very valuable as the first ever human clone. Also maybe he actually did care about her a little? He said he was her legal guardian now. He was very rough with her when he locked her in her room, I think he jsut saw her in terms of monetary value to him sadly. Yeah, I wonder if Wu put some kind of failsafe in Maisie to make the good guys dependent on him. (Like the lysine contingency) _______________ Read my Story Jurassic Park: Chaos Theory!
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Dilophosaurus Gallimimus
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| Subject: Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom SPOILER thread Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:19 pm | |
| Btw it was interesting that the Allosauruses in this movie were juveniles. Hopefully that means we will get to see adults in JW3. | |
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