JPLegacy Memorial Thread

I still have a lot of bookmarks from JPL stored (when I did the News, fanfic threads) that I havent deleted and quite frankly I dont think I ever will.

Looking around the Zara Death thread, reminded of what I, and no one else, refers to as "hand-gate". Remember when the trailers came out, and we saw the Mosasaur eat the Pteranodon. Then in the next trailer we saw one carry off Zara.

Now fast forward to getting the tv spots and clips, and people started thinking maybe Zara gets eaten. Then there was the TV spot that showed the hand. Then it got removed, or another tv spot showed the version without it. There were still people denying it, I even remember myself screencapping and then drawing a big circle in MS paint to show the hand.

It was pretty fun discussion overall.

TheDreamMaster wrote:

Looking around the Zara Death thread, reminded of what I, and no one else, refers to as "hand-gate". Remember when the trailers came out, and we saw the Mosasaur eat the Pteranodon. Then in the next trailer we saw one carry off Zara.

Now fast forward to getting the tv spots and clips, and people started thinking maybe Zara gets eaten. Then there was the TV spot that showed the hand. Then it got removed, or another tv spot showed the version without it. There were still people denying it, I even remember myself screencapping and then drawing a big circle in MS paint to show the hand.

It was pretty fun discussion overall.  

I agree it was one of the funniest times ever! There where all the sudden all these people on JPL and IMDB who were suddenly huge Zara fans, and were worried about her. Then she turned out to be barely in the movie XD.

Also I remember the theories, about cloning Zara.

There were interesting corners of JPL I rarely explored that were always interesting to go into such as the Park Brochure, Jurassic Innards, and the encyclopedia. I always revisited the image galleries for toys, games, comics, fan art, and the films.

When we lost JPL

Mhm, cloning Zara, you say? (whoops. A little too seductive.) Guess I've finally heard it all!

I haven't, of course. Man. What an enthralling little group we were! Made me laugh sometimes to browse the discussing going on. Now I wish I had been a little more active, but back then I wasn't faced with the improbability that the forums were ever going to close.

Yeah. Naïve.

TheRexMan22 wrote:

Mhm, cloning Zara, you say? (whoops. A little too seductive.) Guess I've finally heard it all!

I haven't, of course. Man. What an enthralling little group we were! Made me laugh sometimes to browse the discussing going on. Now I wish I had been a little more active, but back then I wasn't faced with the improbability that the forums were ever going to close.

Yeah. Naïve.

To be fair, besides that its been said what a surprise it was to even a lot of the mods there, I actually had no idea it'd come pretty close t closure a couple times before. Someone mentioned Ty at one point talked about shutting it all down in 2014, something I don't remember at all, and I joined in 2013. Then when Pokes brought this forum back to life, I saw at one point something had happened regarding hosting and it was unsure if the site would go back up or not. I guess everyone that stuck with it from the start knew the possibility was there, I guess it just took some stuff for Ty to finally reach a breaking point.

TheDreamMaster wrote:

TheRexMan22 wrote:

Mhm, cloning Zara, you say? (whoops. A little too seductive.) Guess I've finally heard it all!

I haven't, of course. Man. What an enthralling little group we were! Made me laugh sometimes to browse the discussing going on. Now I wish I had been a little more active, but back then I wasn't faced with the improbability that the forums were ever going to close.

Yeah. Naïve.

To be fair, besides that its been said what a surprise it was to even a lot of the mods there, I actually had no idea it'd come pretty close t closure a couple times before. Someone mentioned Ty at one point talked about shutting it all down in 2014, something I don't remember at all, and I joined in 2013. Then when Pokes brought this forum back to life, I saw at one point something had happened regarding hosting and it was unsure if the site would go back up or not. I guess everyone that stuck with it from the start knew the possibility was there, I guess it just took some stuff for Ty to finally reach a breaking point.  

Part of me wants to say calling out those other dudes for misleading the public with their clickbait is what set Ty off this go round :/

Dead2009 wrote:

TheDreamMaster wrote:

TheRexMan22 wrote:

Mhm, cloning Zara, you say? (whoops. A little too seductive.) Guess I've finally heard it all!

I haven't, of course. Man. What an enthralling little group we were! Made me laugh sometimes to browse the discussing going on. Now I wish I had been a little more active, but back then I wasn't faced with the improbability that the forums were ever going to close.

Yeah. Naïve.

To be fair, besides that its been said what a surprise it was to even a lot of the mods there, I actually had no idea it'd come pretty close t closure a couple times before. Someone mentioned Ty at one point talked about shutting it all down in 2014, something I don't remember at all, and I joined in 2013. Then when Pokes brought this forum back to life, I saw at one point something had happened regarding hosting and it was unsure if the site would go back up or not. I guess everyone that stuck with it from the start knew the possibility was there, I guess it just took some stuff for Ty to finally reach a breaking point.  

Part of me wants to say calling out those other dudes for misleading the public with their clickbait is what set Ty off this go round :/

There's probably parts I don't know, but I have a pretty good idea of what happened, and its probably best not to drag it up again as we'd actually like to try and unite the fandom again in the future if possible. Not to say you are wrong, there's an element of that to it, but there's more than that, and at this point its all just history. You can PM me if you want to know or have some questions, but as far as publicly, the staff and I want to put the problems of the past behind us.

Ah yes, RIP Jurassic Park legacy. May it rest in peace.

Yeah I think this site is exactly what I wanted JPLegacy to be... so just JPLegacy but without a... well, I'll just end that sentence (I always have to allude to some form of conflict because I'm a jackass like that).

Regardless, this site is fantastic, and I think it is probably a good thing to see that this thread is sort of dying down. It means we are moving on. We are ready to continue. It sounds like JPLegacy has officially become a thing of the past and it is all history now.

And from here on out, there isn't anywhere to go but up. Very little if any hostility and conflict that I've seen amongst the community... it sounds like we (I should probably say 'you' since I'm just some random member with little significance) are managing to rebuild quite well. I'm pretty satisfied with this place.

Well, the old site no doubt felt the same way when it was still brand new (yes I know this forum's well over four years old w/e). But here's hoping this place walks a significantly smoother path.

I haven't been using this site much. The death of JPL really took a toll on me. I'm afraid, because I've been less willing to write. Things are not looking good.

Lord Kristine wrote:

I haven't been using this site much. The death of JPL really took a toll on me. I'm afraid, because I've been less willing to write. Things are not looking good.

But this site is JPL reborn LK. Yes, JPL was our go to JP site but just because it's gone doesn't mean this can't be our new go to JP site. There're so many people from JPL here and it's still growing. You're not alone here.

I lost my alternate wedding vows from Owen to Claire. That crushed me.

Lord Kristine wrote:

I lost my alternate wedding vows from Owen to Claire. That crushed me.

I'm sorry you lost them. Can't you make new ones here?

Lord Kristine wrote:

I haven't been using this site much. The death of JPL really took a toll on me. I'm afraid, because I've been less willing to write. Things are not looking good.

Based on your next post, I get that you've lost some things, and that always sucks. But it was a website, and we've tried our best to carry on from where it left off. We need people to post, we have some regular posters, and we get a couple new members here and there, but we really need the community to help us grow again. We all lost a little something with JPL, at least those that were on it a lot, but the site in that form isn't coming back. Why not try to move on, and help rebuild a better site?

On another note to everyone here, if you know anyone interested in JP, please mention this site. We're still moving on strong, but we need to get the word out that we exist.

TheDreamMaster wrote:

Lord Kristine wrote:

I haven't been using this site much. The death of JPL really took a toll on me. I'm afraid, because I've been less willing to write. Things are not looking good.

Based on your next post, I get that you've lost some things, and that always sucks. But it was a website, and we've tried our best to carry on from where it left off. We need people to post, we have some regular posters, and we get a couple new members here and there, but we really need the community to help us grow again. We all lost a little something with JPL, at least those that were on it a lot, but the site in that form isn't coming back. Why not try to move on, and help rebuild a better site?

On another note to everyone here, if you know anyone interested in JP, please mention this site. We're still moving on strong, but we need to get the word out that we exist.    

I'm just bummed because I offered to pay $360 for the site (all I had in cash at the time), and I feel like if I had offered up to 800, I could have saved us. Now, I've lost so many memories, so many TSJPFEW-related threads. I feel like I've been punched and punched and am on the verge of blacking out.

Lord Kristine wrote:

TheDreamMaster wrote:

Lord Kristine wrote:

I haven't been using this site much. The death of JPL really took a toll on me. I'm afraid, because I've been less willing to write. Things are not looking good.

Based on your next post, I get that you've lost some things, and that always sucks. But it was a website, and we've tried our best to carry on from where it left off. We need people to post, we have some regular posters, and we get a couple new members here and there, but we really need the community to help us grow again. We all lost a little something with JPL, at least those that were on it a lot, but the site in that form isn't coming back. Why not try to move on, and help rebuild a better site?

On another note to everyone here, if you know anyone interested in JP, please mention this site. We're still moving on strong, but we need to get the word out that we exist.    

I'm just bummed because I offered to pay $360 for the site (all I had in cash at the time), and I feel like if I had offered up to 800, I could have saved us. Now, I've lost so many memories, so many TSJPFEW-related threads. I feel like I've been punched and punched and am on the verge of blacking out.

Money wasnt the issue lol. Other people offered him higher and he still turned it down...that says something.

It also says something that I was willing to pay that much, and the feelings of so many people were disregarded. I lost everything.

Lord Kristine wrote:

It also says something that I was willing to pay that much, and the feelings of so many people were disregarded. I lost everything.

Tyrannosaur lost 15+ years of his life being in this fandom and getting treated like shit for trying to establish a set canon and basic guidelines for the community yet was taken over by a site where one of the people who run it literally said "Canon is your opinion".

But from my point of view, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Our voices were not heard. We do not matter. I have no hope, because no matter where I go, I cannot save my home. If this site dies, and the next site dies, no one will listen to me or anyone else. We are without value.

Richard Levine wrote:

Lord Kristine wrote:

It also says something that I was willing to pay that much, and the feelings of so many people were disregarded. I lost everything.

Tyrannosaur lost 15+ years of his life being in this fandom and getting treated like shit for trying to establish a set canon and basic guidelines for the community yet was taken over by a site where one of the people who run it literally said "Canon is your opinion".

Was the person who said that the one rouge admin who basically hijacked JPL back in 2009?

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Richard Levine wrote:

Lord Kristine wrote:

It also says something that I was willing to pay that much, and the feelings of so many people were disregarded. I lost everything.

Tyrannosaur lost 15+ years of his life being in this fandom and getting treated like shit for trying to establish a set canon and basic guidelines for the community yet was taken over by a site where one of the people who run it literally said "Canon is your opinion".

Was the person who said that the one rouge admin who basically hijacked JPL back in 2009?

No.

I've always been of the opinion that no one person should own a cultural property. I do not own TSJPFEW. It belongs to the readers. Otherwise, I'd be perfectly happy spitting words into the void. But I only gain something from the people who read. To say that they have no bearing in my work is disrespectful. We live in a world where voices, however many there are, will not drown out the single proprietor. That's why George Lucas can keep Star Wars locked away. That's why JPL died. We are nothing more than rats scrambling to the next empty box when the last one is destroyed. No one cares about what we want. At least by scurrying into the open, we will be stepped on immediately. One way or another, we will all be killed, and there's no stopping it. All we can do is delay the inevitable, not by saving our home, but by never questioning why we must live like vermin. I once thought that the Jurassic Park community was full of people who cared about each other. I was wrong. When all is said and done, each one of us is incapable of carrying out a selfless act. We do what we do for our own self interest, and put on the facade of brotherhood. I could disappear from this place, and no one would risk their neck to assist me. When one of us is stepped on, the others fear the same. That's why we do not love each other. That's why I was a fool for ever having faith in the goodness of my peers.

Richard Levine wrote:

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Richard Levine wrote:

Lord Kristine wrote:

It also says something that I was willing to pay that much, and the feelings of so many people were disregarded. I lost everything.

Tyrannosaur lost 15+ years of his life being in this fandom and getting treated like shit for trying to establish a set canon and basic guidelines for the community yet was taken over by a site where one of the people who run it literally said "Canon is your opinion".

Was the person who said that the one rouge admin who basically hijacked JPL back in 2009?

No.

OK. I only asked because I that was my first thought.

I guess the question now is can the benefits of staying here outweigh my sorrow? I never thought there would come a time when something would drive me away from this fandom, but I don't think there's anything for me here.

I do understand where you're coming from Lk and I do feel bad for your loss but sometimes people just get to a breaking point with things. I won't put Ty down because he decided to wash his hands with the site but I agree that the torch could have been passed to us. I feel the staff here are more than capable of running this place and I have no doubt we could have run things at Jpl just fine.

However, the reality is that JPL is done and it isn't coming back in the forn that it was. We're all crushed that the place is gone but we have an opportunity to create something special here I believe. However, none of that will matter if the community doesn't pitch in. Many of us do care very dearly about JP and I consider many of you to be my friends. I'm sure a lot of members feel that way about others.

We need you guys to help us create a new spirit of JPL here. We can merely lay the foundations down and make adjustments but the lifeblood comes from you guys. Yes, by shutting down JPL ty did take the physical site away from you but the spirit will only die if people choose it to die.

On one final note though, can you honestly blame Ty for all the crap he had been taking over the years to just get to a breaking point? His methods of operation were questionable at times but I doubt many people could have lasted as long as he did.

Megaspino2 wrote:

I do understand where you're coming from Lk and I do feel bad for your loss but sometimes people just get to a breaking point with things. I won't put Ty down because he decided to wash his hands with the site but I agree that the torch could have been passed to us. I feel the staff here are more than capable of running this place and I have no doubt we could have run things at Jpl just fine.

However, the reality is that JPL is done and it isn't coming back in the forn that it was. We're all crushed that the place is gone but we have an opportunity to create something special here I believe. However, none of that will matter if the community doesn't pitch in. Many of us do care very dearly about JP and I consider many of you to be my friends. I'm sure a lot of members feel that way about others.

We need you guys to help us create a new spirit of JPL here. We can merely lay the foundations down and make adjustments but the lifeblood comes from you guys. Yes, by shutting down JPL ty did take the physical site away from you but the spirit will only die if people choose it to die.

On one final note though, can you honestly blame Ty for all the crap he had been taking over the years to just get to a breaking point? His methods of operation were questionable at times but I doubt many people could have lasted as long as he did.

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This post right here, 100%.

Just to add to what I was saying before, don't you guys see that at the end of the day you made JPL special. It wasn't anything Ty did or didn't do to make it such a great place it was the people, the members, who made the place shine. All of the dedicated work put into the site wasn't always a product of the staff. Many people sent in art, created interesting topics of discussion, made great fan fics, created amazing mods for the games, and most of all fostered the atmosphere that people came to like about it.

I find it disheartening to see many people essentially loosing hope of a better website. Sure this place isn't as big or fancy as JPL but everything has to start somewhere. Hell, even JPL must have had humble beginnings because it too was also created from the ruins of another great JP fan site. So, if JPL could have built up from something small to the site that it was then this site also has the potential to do the same.