The Star Wars thread

Troyal1 wrote:

Star was the last Jedi shot 15% digital.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/6wlfhy/1015_of_star_wars_the_last_jedi_was_shot_digitally/

Linked to Reddit because the link is to a tweet

I don't even know why Rian Johnson or Disney even agreed to that; shooting on digital is a surefire way to prevent the 4K scans of The Last Jedi from being complete ones, like The Force Awakens. Sure, 85% might be a genuine ultra-HD upgrade, but 15% of it won't be.

Oshronosaurus wrote:

i hope it's an exploration of young Obi-wan early in his training with Qui-gon, because that means Liam Neeson will be back!

did you guys hear about that kid, Honiker, who got killed out in some canyon?
I don't think, dead, means what you think it means, but he's alive I guess, he just can't hear?
but what I mean is, he thinks Liam Neeson is a real jedi, and he wants to be his apprentice,
right now, uh, he's alive? he got tortured, for like, 10 years, in captivity, and now he's writing a book about the Sith, and he's a genious, and wants
to write Episode VIII and IX himself, and make them like, 14 hours each,
have Liam Neeson bring his friends, and they'll just make it for free?
I'd work on star wars for free, no doubt... he got super fucked up when he read about, or played the game, to learn about Korriban, and that's there the Sith kid he writes about, comes from...

do you know what he's been doing? it's really, freaky cool insane, but like, what does dead mean? do people act like, "well in the real world,"
cuz I don't think he knows what you mean, and his old life with his family, he doesn't know how old he is, what you think money is for, and he's, a ghost
Honiker is, anyway, till he finds his family,
he's working super hard, not for money at all,
but to make himself mega famous, because he doesn't know how to find

what? shouldn't we let him win? 14 hour movies, for free?

jericho wrote:

Oshronosaurus wrote:

i hope it's an exploration of young Obi-wan early in his training with Qui-gon, because that means Liam Neeson will be back!

did you guys hear about that kid, Honiker, who got killed out in some canyon?
I don't think, dead, means what you think it means, but he's alive I guess, he just can't hear?
but what I mean is, he thinks Liam Neeson is a real jedi, and he wants to be his apprentice,
right now, uh, he's alive? he got tortured, for like, 10 years, in captivity, and now he's writing a book about the Sith, and he's a genious, and wants
to write Episode VIII and IX himself, and make them like, 14 hours each,
have Liam Neeson bring his friends, and they'll just make it for free?
I'd work on star wars for free, no doubt... he got super fucked up when he read about, or played the game, to learn about Korriban, and that's there the Sith kid he writes about, comes from...

do you know what he's been doing? it's really, freaky cool insane, but like, what does dead mean? do people act like, "well in the real world,"
cuz I don't think he knows what you mean, and his old life with his family, he doesn't know how old he is, what you think money is for, and he's, a ghost
Honiker is, anyway, till he finds his family,
he's working super hard, not for money at all,
but to make himself mega famous, because he doesn't know how to find

what? shouldn't we let him win? 14 hour movies, for free?

Huh? Link?

jericho wrote:

Oshronosaurus wrote:

i hope it's an exploration of young Obi-wan early in his training with Qui-gon, because that means Liam Neeson will be back!

did you guys hear about that kid, Honiker, who got killed out in some canyon?
I don't think, dead, means what you think it means, but he's alive I guess, he just can't hear?
but what I mean is, he thinks Liam Neeson is a real jedi, and he wants to be his apprentice,
right now, uh, he's alive? he got tortured, for like, 10 years, in captivity, and now he's writing a book about the Sith, and he's a genious, and wants
to write Episode VIII and IX himself, and make them like, 14 hours each,
have Liam Neeson bring his friends, and they'll just make it for free?
I'd work on star wars for free, no doubt... he got super fucked up when he read about, or played the game, to learn about Korriban, and that's there the Sith kid he writes about, comes from...

do you know what he's been doing? it's really, freaky cool insane, but like, what does dead mean? do people act like, "well in the real world,"
cuz I don't think he knows what you mean, and his old life with his family, he doesn't know how old he is, what you think money is for, and he's, a ghost
Honiker is, anyway, till he finds his family,
he's working super hard, not for money at all,
but to make himself mega famous, because he doesn't know how to find

what? shouldn't we let him win? 14 hour movies, for free?

the hell are you on about?

Guys, I think it's a spam bot.

CT-1138 wrote:

Guys, I think it's a spam bot.

I think so too. Look at the rest of his posts. All weird and nonsensical.

Keeping a close eye.

Troyal1 wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

Guys, I think it's a spam bot.

I think so too. Look at the rest of his posts. All weird and nonsensical.

I just think that it's somebody who might really be too young to be online.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

CT-1138 wrote:

Guys, I think it's a spam bot.

I think so too. Look at the rest of his posts. All weird and nonsensical.

I just that it's somebody who might really be too young to be online.

I'm half and half on that.....but I'm probably leaning closer to removing them because they aren't really adding to the discussion regardless.

are you talking about me?
Spam is, "looks like food but isn't", I like talking to people, so what if I'm different? All my posts are really well thought out,

I sound odd if you're not talking about me tho, what's up? Did you say, some kid too young to be online? Is that really how you treat kids?

jericho wrote:

are you talking about me?
Spam is, "looks like food but isn't", I like talking to people, so what if I'm different? All my posts are really well thought out,

I sound odd if you're not talking about me tho, what's up? Did you say, some kid too young to be online? Is that really how you treat kids?

Well when you post random things that are extremely odd it makes us wonder 3 things.

1. Bot.

2. Child.

3. Troll.

Like your post here in the Star Wars thread. How is that thought out? I did a google search on the guy you claim believes Star Wars is real and nothing in return came back. Sounds like you made it up. If not I apologize.

But if you're adding to the discussion you're gonna have to back up claims you put out.

Getting us back on topic.....

Am I the only one that's afraid we may end up with Disney trying to bring out some big prequel retconning event in a future film? Like, not that the prequels didn't happen, but something that'll put more importance on the Disney era moving forward. I have a feeling Lucas probably mandated they wouldn't ignore or get rid of the prequels when it came to the sale, but imagine this:

Anakin wasn't the chosen one. He may have had similarities to the prophecy, but we find out his "force child" status was a result of Darth Plagueis manipulating the force to create life. Therefore, his destiny was always steeped in the dark side, but he still was able to have good within him. Now, we don't know Rey's parents because.... she is the Chosen One. Her mother and the Jedi hid her because she was made from the pure force, and equal balance of light and dark. Her destiny would come to her sooner or later.

Now, while in my head that idea doesn't sound awful, and all the prequel haters would probably enjoy this, I don't like something like this. It's like my issues with calling it "Rey's lightsaber". It will forever be the Skywalker lightsaber. I feel like it'd be a certain disrespect to Lucas, who shaped the universe until he knew he didn't have it in him to take it further.

TheDreamMaster wrote:

Getting us back on topic.....

Am I the only one that's afraid we may end up with Disney trying to bring out some big prequel retconning event in a future film? Like, not that the prequels didn't happen, but something that'll put more importance on the Disney era moving forward. I have a feeling Lucas probably mandated they wouldn't ignore or get rid of the prequels when it came to the sale, but imagine this:

Anakin wasn't the chosen one. He may have had similarities to the prophecy, but we find out his "force child" status was a result of Darth Plagueis manipulating the force to create life. Therefore, his destiny was always steeped in the dark side, but he still was able to have good within him. Now, we don't know Rey's parents because.... she is the Chosen One. Her mother and the Jedi hid her because she was made from the pure force, and equal balance of light and dark. Her destiny would come to her sooner or later.

Disney has already ensured that the prequels are canon via Rebels and Rogue One so I don't think they can outright ret-con them out of existence like Paramount plans to do with all of the Terminators made after T2 via the planned 'proper' T3 movie made under James Cameron. That being said, I can see them ret-conning it where Luke is the chosen one via convincing his father that there is some good left and him training Rey. I don't disagree that Disney might do something like that, but I wonder how much they can do.

Osh said something interesting a while back.

Oshronosaurus wrote:

i think part of the reason the Marvel movies are doing so well while now the future of Star Wars is up in the air is because Disney went ahead with Star Wars on their own rather than just acquiring a huge project that was already in the works and had been planned out years in advance (remember, part of why Marvel is so successful with their cinematic universe while other studios aren't is because they took their time starting it off while others are rushing into it to compete and it's hurting them badly because of that)

I agree with this. But I think there's something else at play: The the prequels eventually turned out to be so hated as time went on since The Phantom Menace came out, that is scared people into thinking that can't do anything original. It's a lot like how I think that Universal learned some wrong lessons from JP3, and to a lesser degree (GA wise), The Lost World. That with the GA being split on TLW and the overwhelming majority of fans, GA, and critics hating JP3, that we might not see Sorna again, even if JW: FK does ensure that the first 2 sequels are still hard canon.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

TheDreamMaster wrote:

Getting us back on topic.....

Am I the only one that's afraid we may end up with Disney trying to bring out some big prequel retconning event in a future film? Like, not that the prequels didn't happen, but something that'll put more importance on the Disney era moving forward. I have a feeling Lucas probably mandated they wouldn't ignore or get rid of the prequels when it came to the sale, but imagine this:

Anakin wasn't the chosen one. He may have had similarities to the prophecy, but we find out his "force child" status was a result of Darth Plagueis manipulating the force to create life. Therefore, his destiny was always steeped in the dark side, but he still was able to have good within him. Now, we don't know Rey's parents because.... she is the Chosen One. Her mother and the Jedi hid her because she was made from the pure force, and equal balance of light and dark. Her destiny would come to her sooner or later.

Disney has already ensured that the prequels are canon via Rebels and Rogue One so I don't think they can outright ret-con them out of existence like Paramount plans to do with all of the Terminators made after T2 via the planned 'proper' T3 movie made under James Cameron. That being said, I can see them ret-conning it where Luke is the chosen one via convincing his father that there is some good left and him training Rey. I don't disagree that Disney might do something like that, but I wonder how much they can do.

Osh said something interesting a while back.

Oshronosaurus wrote:

i think part of the reason the Marvel movies are doing so well while now the future of Star Wars is up in the air is because Disney went ahead with Star Wars on their own rather than just acquiring a huge project that was already in the works and had been planned out years in advance (remember, part of why Marvel is so successful with their cinematic universe while other studios aren't is because they took their time starting it off while others are rushing into it to compete and it's hurting them badly because of that)

I agree with this. But I think there's something else at play: The the prequels eventually turned out to be so hated as time went on since The Phantom Menace came out, that is scared people into thinking that can't do anything original. It's a lot like how I think that Universal learned some wrong lessons from JP3, and to a lesser degree (GA wise), The Lost World. That with the GA being split on TLW and the overwhelming majority of fans, GA, and critics hating JP3, that we might not see Sorna again, even if JW: FK does ensure that the first 2 sequels are still hard canon.

Exactly.

I often see this awful argument about the Star Wars prequels(which I don't outright hate btw). And that argument is "you wanted something new, you complained. And now when you are getting something old and nostalgic you are still complaining".

And I'm like NO. People were never mad at the prequels for trying new things. People were mad at the prequels because they felt the new stuff wasn't any good. They hated some of the characters, the awful dialogue, direction and acting. And of course some of the story.

People did not hate the Star Wars prequels for being New. They hated it because they were not satisfied with the new stuff. That argument that new= bad annoys me to no end. ROTS is my favorite btw lol

Snokes new Mega-Class Star Destroyer is effing HUGE!

CT-1138 wrote:

Snokes new Mega-Class Star Destroyer is effing HUGE!

Well, at least it's a new design. I can't help but wonder if it will have a miniaturized version/s of the Death Cannon that was used by the Death Star. I mean, something that big has to have a lot of firepower for taking out enemy capital ships.

Colin Trevorrow is out of Star Wars episode 9!!! Wtf

http://www.thewrap.com/colin-trevorrow-exits-of-star-wars-episode-ix/

Troyal1 wrote:

Colin Trevorrow is out of Star Wars episode 9!!! Wtf

http://www.thewrap.com/colin-trevorrow-exits-of-star-wars-episode-ix/

I've been rooting for Trevorrow to persevere and surprise everyone with his directing of Episode IX, but clearly The Book of Henry torpedoed any remaining goodwill from the vast majority of Star Wars fans and with the fate of the franchise looking as precarious as it is, Disney are undeniably taking the pragmatic route to keep faith in the sequel trilogy high. I get why they took this route; they don't want risk the concluding chapter on a director who got extremely lucky with Jurassic World and is still a divisive and deeply untrusted director. Pretty much everywhere I look the reception to this news is one of adulation, I honestly can't remember a time when people were so glad to see a director removed from an anticipated movie. Even Reel News Hawaii, who've been pretty supportive of Jurassic World in the past, were quick to post a mocking tweet connecting Trevorrow to Admiral Motti (the guy Vader force-chokes in A New Hope).

Trevorrow still has his work at Universal and Amblin cut out for him though, though for many JP fans I'm sure that doesn't come as any kind of reassurance. If Bayona has been requesting frequent re-writes and improvements on the Fallen Kingdom script, we'll know for sure when we see it. Its just a shame Jon Favreau is directing the live action Lion King and he wasn't hired sooner because he was honestly my top pick for Episode IX before Trevorrow was hired. Now they have to scramble to find a new director fast, or plug Rian Johnson to get filming ASAP.

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

Colin Trevorrow is out of Star Wars episode 9!!! Wtf

http://www.thewrap.com/colin-trevorrow-exits-of-star-wars-episode-ix/

I've been rooting for Trevorrow to persevere and surprise everyone with his directing of Episode IX, but clearly The Book of Henry torpedoed any remaining goodwill from the vast majority of Star Wars fans and with the fate of the franchise looking as precarious as it is, Disney are undeniably taking the pragmatic route to keep faith in the sequel trilogy high. I get why they took this route; they don't want risk the concluding chapter on a director who got extremely lucky with Jurassic World and is still a divisive and deeply untrusted director. Pretty much everywhere I look the reception to this news is one of adulation, I honestly can't remember a time when people were so glad to see a director removed from an anticipated movie. Even Reel News Hawaii, who've been pretty supportive of Jurassic World in the past, were quick to post a mocking tweet connecting Trevorrow to Admiral Motti (the guy Vader force-chokes in A New Hope).

Trevorrow still has his work at Universal and Amblin cut out for him though, though for many JP fans I'm sure that doesn't come as any kind of reassurance. If Bayona has been requesting frequent re-writes and improvements on the Fallen Kingdom script, we'll know for sure when we see it. Its just a shame Jon Favreau is directing the live action Lion King and he wasn't hired sooner because he was honestly my top pick for Episode IX before Trevorrow was hired. Now they have to scramble to find a new director fast, or plug Rian Johnson to get filming ASAP.

It's just crazy to me. And the jokes are funny but I think the Colin hate circle jerk is crazy.

We don't even know the full story yet, obviously we can speculate but people are acting like he would have ruined SW. Maybe so but maybe not. I think his problem is the writing more than directing personally.

The SW producers don't exactly have the cleanest hands either. Maybe they shouldn't be hiring these directors without extreme and careful consideration.

Considering most of what Abrams did was throw nostalgia at the audience and having it backfired on them, I can see why Disney would reconsider Trevorrow. There was a ton of member berries in both TFA and JW, so I can see Disney wanting to avoid it a second time around. I even saw an interview in Empire Magazine recently where Rian Johnson kinda implied that he felt Abrams over did it on the nostalgia baiting in TFA. Plus, I have no doubt that the reception to Book of Henry was a large influence on Disney's decision on whether to continue having him on the project.

CT-1138 wrote:

Considering most of what Abrams did was throw nostalgia at the audience and having it backfired on them, I can see why Disney would reconsider Trevorrow. There was a ton of member berries in both TFA and JW, so I can see Disney wanting to avoid it a second time around. I even saw an interview in Empire Magazine recently where Rian Johnson kinda implied that he felt Abrams over did it on the nostalgia baiting in TFA. Plus, I have no doubt that the reception to Book of Henry was a large influence on Disney's decision on whether to continue having him on the project.

Yeah.

I'm not even a fan of Colin really. I just wish it seemed that Disney had a more defined plan. It worries me.

BarrytheOnyx wrote:

Troyal1 wrote:

Colin Trevorrow is out of Star Wars episode 9!!! Wtf

http://www.thewrap.com/colin-trevorrow-exits-of-star-wars-episode-ix/

I've been rooting for Trevorrow to persevere and surprise everyone with his directing of Episode IX, but clearly The Book of Henry torpedoed any remaining goodwill from the vast majority of Star Wars fans and with the fate of the franchise looking as precarious as it is, Disney are undeniably taking the pragmatic route to keep faith in the sequel trilogy high. I get why they took this route; they don't want risk the concluding chapter on a director who got extremely lucky with Jurassic World and is still a divisive and deeply untrusted director. Pretty much everywhere I look the reception to this news is one of adulation, I honestly can't remember a time when people were so glad to see a director removed from an anticipated movie. Even Reel News Hawaii, who've been pretty supportive of Jurassic World in the past, were quick to post a mocking tweet connecting Trevorrow to Admiral Motti (the guy Vader force-chokes in A New Hope).

Trevorrow still has his work at Universal and Amblin cut out for him though, though for many JP fans I'm sure that doesn't come as any kind of reassurance. If Bayona has been requesting frequent re-writes and improvements on the Fallen Kingdom script, we'll know for sure when we see it. Its just a shame Jon Favreau is directing the live action Lion King and he wasn't hired sooner because he was honestly my top pick for Episode IX before Trevorrow was hired. Now they have to scramble to find a new director fast, or plug Rian Johnson to get filming ASAP.

My guess that they thought that he got lucky with Jurassic World or that they thought that Spielberg was the one who really directed with Trevorrow being a proxy. In any case, between him being rushed through JW, Carrie Fisher dying, and The Book Of Henry, Trevorrow was not really treated fairly considering how he was rushed so fast.

Well I guess now it is safe to say Colin will be writing JW3's script too?

*sigh* Was really hoping Trevorrow would stick it out. Not surprised though. Somewhere in between Book of Henry being poor, the massive fan backlash, and Trevorrow being forced to rewrite the film in like of Fisher's death, I think it probably became to much for him. If Lucasfilm fired him, I feel like they didn't give him the chance he deserved. If he left on his own, then I do wonder what exactly happened though. Sounds like at the very least, they couldn't agree on the story after it had to be changed since Carrie's passing.

dance2nite wrote:

Well I guess now it is safe to say Colin will be writing JW3's script too?

Honestly I dont know if we can make that assumption.

So ummm.... well this sucks. I hope everything works out.

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Well I guess now it is safe to say Colin will be writing JW3's script too?

Honestly I dont know if we can make that assumption.

Agreed. Remember, J.A. Bayona ordered reshoots for JW:FK so it's safe to say he had differences with the script that Trevorrow helped write. Between that, him getting removed from SW9, the bad reception from The Book Of Henry, and how many fans have gotten a bit cynical of JW, it's possible that he might not come back or at the very least, get demoted as somebody else becomes the main writer.

I really feel for the guy. Hes way too nice to get the hate that people give him, on that note i'm mixed about this. On one hand i'm one of the few people that loves JW but closing out a new star wars trilogy seems way to much for him and he would have to follow up a film made by rian johnson. I hope they get rian to do the next film.

Rhedosaurus wrote:

Sickle_Claw wrote:

dance2nite wrote:

Well I guess now it is safe to say Colin will be writing JW3's script too?

Honestly I dont know if we can make that assumption.

Agreed. Remember, J.A. Bayona ordered reshoots for JW:FK so it's safe to say he had differences with the script that Trevorrow helped write. Between that, him getting removed from SW9, the bad reception from The Book Of Henry, and how many fans have gotten a bit cynical of JW, it's possible that he might not come back or at the very least, get demoted as somebody else becomes the main writer.

So you think it's "possible" (key word lol) that Book of Henry may have done huge damage to his career and could end it?

Like I'm wondering what his future is. How Universal views himself etc.

Obviously we can debate this more in another thread but I wanted to know your opinion.

Herrerasaurus wrote:

I really feel for the guy. Hes way too nice to get the hate that people give him, on that note i'm mixed about this. On one hand i'm one of the few people that loves JW but closing out a new star wars trilogy seems way to much for him and he would have to follow up a film made by rian johnson. I hope they get rian to do the next film.

Not sure if I want Rian again, but they should definitely choose someone less "conventional" just like with Rian.